BigTartanJudge 0 Posted January 12, 2006 Out of all the cars that have been mentioned, defo the Audi S2 coupe. U mentioned e46 M3 but what about the e36 M3 ? Awesome cars, but go for the 286 bhp model. German, stylish, great handling and quick as fcuk, nothing more to be said really. I work for a car rental company and we have no end of faults with the Renaults (Clio's, Megane's and Laguna's) on our fleet, electrics ALL the time, poor handling and crappy build quality (plastic wings on Megane's and Clio's...). Cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iow_corrado_g60 0 Posted January 12, 2006 yeah but so many people have m3's you want something different Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iow_corrado_g60 0 Posted January 12, 2006 big tartan thats one nice c you've got how much were the brembo brakes from cupra? have you got any pics? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
veedub 0 Posted January 12, 2006 Its french......Dont do it!!! Bloody common as muck Clio! I must see at least 10 a day!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jedi-knight83 0 Posted January 12, 2006 common as muck golf.... i see 20 of them a day.... but... oh ...wait.... not so many mk V gtis which is what makes em cool.... just like the 182... out of all the clio's you see... how many are 182's Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
veedub 0 Posted January 12, 2006 True... but those dodgy stripes yuck!!! Oh, and its french!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted January 12, 2006 All modern cars are common, they wouldn't be made if they didn't sell. The ability to make choices based on personal preferences is what seperates humans from droids....is that an Isaac Asimov line, or something I've just made up? LOL! So go and get yourself a burnt orange Clio if you want mate, just expect loads of "You've been tango'd" comments afterwards :-) Seriously tho, I have driven a 182 and I was very impressed by it's ability, but not very impressed at all by it's lack of refinement or build quality, but then you don't buy Subarus and Evos for class leading styling and build quality either. The 182 has a some super sticky Michelins on it, specially made for the car, and they work well. Grip borders on the surreal and can show up far more expensive cars. Engine is very willing, if a little rough and 'vocal' but you'll never be wanting for more speed (imo)....especially if you decat them etc etc to go with the lovely in-house tubular manifold you get as standard. The key to the Clio is light weight. Renault make no bones about it. If you want luxury, buy an exec barge. The Clio'Sport' was built for a purpose and it does it VERY well.....AND....they cost F ALL!! Bargain. It's not my bag, but I see why people like them. I would definitely have a Clio Trophy in black for track and w/end use though.....if just for those awesome Sachs dampers...... Try it and buy it mate.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ronan 0 Posted January 12, 2006 All modern cars are common, they wouldn't be made if they didn't sell. The ability to make choices based on personal preferences is what seperates humans from droids....is that an Isaac Asimov line, or something I've just made up? LOL! So go and get yourself a burnt orange Clio if you want mate, just expect loads of "You've been tango'd" comments afterwards :-) Seriously tho, I have driven a 182 and I was very impressed by it's ability, but not very impressed at all by it's lack of refinement or build quality, but then you don't buy Subarus and Evos for class leading styling and build quality either. The 182 has a some super sticky Michelins on it, specially made for the car, and they work well. Grip borders on the surreal and can show up far more expensive cars. Engine is very willing, if a little rough and 'vocal' but you'll never be wanting for more speed (imo)....especially if you decat them etc etc to go with the lovely in-house tubular manifold you get as standard. The key to the Clio is light weight. Renault make no bones about it. If you want luxury, buy an exec barge. The Clio'Sport' was built for a purpose and it does it VERY well.....AND....they cost F ALL!! Bargain. It's not my bag, but I see why people like them. I would definitely have a Clio Trophy in black for track and w/end use though.....if just for those awesome Sachs dampers...... Try it and buy it mate.... VW Owner In Unbiased Comment Shocker!!! :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iow_corrado_g60 0 Posted January 12, 2006 I Agree with kev I really like my mates 1! he wouldnt change it but i would for a clio v6! test on new avatar too what u reckon? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
double-6s 0 Posted January 12, 2006 INTERIOR!!!!!!!! fekin horrible mate - after the s3 it will be like sitting in a burger tray. totally abismal inside imo. a mate has the v6, an awesome car, but even that is poo inside except for the seats. you'd be going down about twenty levels in refinement and quality and pride. ooh, AND IT'S BLOODY FRENCH / A SARDINE TIN / QUITE POSSIBLY FOR MAN-LOVERS Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim 2 Posted January 12, 2006 VW Owner In Unbiased Comment Shocker!!! Hey! See my comment back on page 2! :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTartanJudge 0 Posted January 12, 2006 iow_corrado_g60, Cheers it will be when it finally gets finished and on the road ! I got the Brembo's brand new off a guy on here cheaper than you could buy them from the dealers at the time. The Seat dealerships have now all cottoned onto the fact that the VW scene were buying them up cheap and putting them on MK1/2/3 Golf and Corrado's etc and have now increased their prices to like £180+VAT per caliper and £70+VAT per disc ! :roll: :x Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ronan 0 Posted January 12, 2006 lol yeah ok sorry Jim, I apologise...that's now Two VW Owners In Unbiased Shocker!! See page 32 for details.... etc etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
veeDuB_Rado 0 Posted January 12, 2006 Well I had a mate who had a 172 and his liked to be stuck in the local Renault garage a lot! Another mate worked in that same garage and said they are the "cheapish mans quick blast" car, also stated the gearboxes were turd... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim 2 Posted January 12, 2006 I know this sounds a little dubious Nathan, but have you considered a Golf MK4 PD150 with a remap? I know its a diesel, and like French cars people like to knock them, but with a decent remap you'll see 190BHP and 300lb/ft of torque. Not only that but you'll get very decent fuel economy if you're used to that from your HDI. Mine only has 124BHP and 240lb/ft torque but I know the PD150's go like stink - I can only imagine what they are like after a remap. Worth bearing in mind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ronan 0 Posted January 12, 2006 Diseasels are rubbish. However, VW and Honda diesels are stunning. I want the PD150 (I always thought it was a TD150 Jim?), pull like trains. Big, quick trains. Not like any we have over here! Probably a German train. Actually, German trains probably use VW diesel engines. Am I rambling? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Craig 0 Posted January 12, 2006 probably too common and old but a scooby or evo always looks nice! if thats your thing? or has this just opened a whole new can of worms!! :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ronan 0 Posted January 12, 2006 Don't get a scoob, get an Evo. The early ones aren't as bad as you would think, in fact, they're really quite good - less drover aids = more fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim 2 Posted January 12, 2006 The 1.9 TDI engines VW sold in the later MK4's were Pump Deuse - so usually when they are being talked about, people refer to them as PD150 (or PD115 or PD130) to differentiate them from the normal TDI engines as they are much more popular and held in much higher regard. I know they still have their sceptics and I know that petrol cars perform better, whatnot, but honestly try a PD150 - you will be surprised. And you can get absolute minters with low mileage for sub £10k these days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Craig 0 Posted January 12, 2006 how much are the anniversary mk 4 golfs going for these days? start at around 10k dont they? i think they look mint, more than a gti but substitute to an r32. petrols 180 brake and the diesel 150 iirc? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim 2 Posted January 12, 2006 My mate is hopefully in the process of selling his MK4 Anniversary 150PD TDI for £12,000 which is the going rate for a good example. See some pics of it here: http://www.switcha.co.uk/anniversary/ The petrol ones typically go for about £1000/£1,500 less... They are very nice motors but I don't think there is enough about them to differentiate them from the others. The body kit you can buy from VW specialists for £590, black headlights for £130, and the wheels another £1000... theres your anniversary clone just without the unique build number! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted January 12, 2006 VW Owner In Unbiased Comment Shocker!!! :D LOL :lol: The ickle Renault can do great things but it's minuses outweigh it's positives overall imo. I prefer to feel like I'm sitting in something substantial and the Clio feels too flimsy for my tastes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Craig 0 Posted January 12, 2006 the anniversary already has a decent 1.8t with a healthy 180 bhp so could start from there if that wasnt enough? the interiors are quite nice too with a few extra styling goodies :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rado-steve 0 Posted January 12, 2006 DON'T BUY ORANGE!!!! Its the nugget yellow of the future!!! I'll not say don't buy one - i quite like the fat ass megane model - but don't uy orange. Blue is cool Hey!!! You Cheeky Get :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 12, 2006 I know 3 people that have had turbos go on there 52 plate renault. 2 lagunas and 1 clio. All resulting in new engines being required and huge bills. Thankfully, 2 were paid by renault and other had to pay 4k. I know this isn;t diesel, but it doesn;t say much for the build!!! Another audi or seat leon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites