matth76 0 Posted March 9, 2006 Hi Just got car back from Stealth after a re-chip and it has really made a difference to the drivability of the car...torque is available straight away. My question is when Stealth did the re-chip I had it full up with Tesco's 99 ron fuel... does this mean it was remapped/rechipped just for this 99 ron fuel or will Stealth have given it allowances so I can use at least a lower ron fuel... like 97 or 98? Had no choice but to fill it up on 97 ron fuel on the way home. Thanks for any info. I will confirm with Vince tomorrow about this. Cheers Matt ps. If any of you are with Elephant insurance you'll have to change as they don't insure cars with any kind of computer chips. I'm changing in July when mine expires. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted March 9, 2006 Yes. Vince always does 'safe' maps mate. Fear not. He did my supercharger map with modest ignition advance as to not cause problems when I run out of water injection fluid, or use 95 fuel. Have you got VAG-COM? If not, get it! You can data log the knock tables for as long as you want. Simply take the resultant excel spreadsheet (CSV format) and read the knock regulation. If it's more than 6 using 95, stick to 98. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
double-6s 0 Posted March 9, 2006 and don't use schmesco's 99 optimax til i die :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted March 9, 2006 Schmescos 99 is good mate! It contains 5% ethanol!! AND more importantly, *all* Tesco 99 is supplied exclusively by the same refinery (Rumour has it it's BP) to all stations that sell it, so no chance of a dudd tank. Schmescos 99, unlike Optimax, is refined at 99 RON, they don't simply throw boosters into 95. I rate it :-) My motor certainly seems to like it and it's 80 odd p a litre as opposed to 95.9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Furkz 0 Posted March 9, 2006 wouldnt use anything else other then optimax personally Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matth76 0 Posted March 9, 2006 Cheers guys for your help. I tend to use Tescos 99 ron all the time as there's a local one near me. The new BMC makes my car sound like an aston martin when I floor it above 3000 revs...all the way to the red line. But it can be equally quiet when I drive normally...just the way I like it. I haven't fitted the cold air feed and don't think I will ...just love the noise it makes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted March 9, 2006 Good good. Optimax is good stuff providing you fill up from a busy station. Optimax goes off if left under the ground too long. To say I've had mixed results with Optimax is an understatement. Tesco 99 is a lot more consistent because it's refined at 99, so won't go off. The cold air feed for the BMC makes it quieter, but there is no power difference with it on or off. It's easy to relocate the carbon can though if you want to run the feed and I would personally as it's a lot quieter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trig 0 Posted March 9, 2006 I've found Optimax to be dissapointing in the past as well. I'm used to BP Ultimate & Esso Supreme, both are great and very consistent. Wish I had a Tesco station nearby, never tried their 99 RON fuel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.Rich. 0 Posted March 9, 2006 If im honest i cant notice a performance difference between Optimax and tesco's, so i just buy the cheaper of the two. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timg60 0 Posted March 9, 2006 I've found Optimax to be dissapointing in the past as well. I'm used to BP Ultimate & Esso Supreme, both are great and very consistent. Wish I had a Tesco station nearby, never tried their 99 RON fuel. Redruth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
veeDuB_Rado 0 Posted March 9, 2006 Mostly crap stuff at my local petrol station :( Although when I had £40 worth of Optimax in once, there was a difference! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Furkz 0 Posted March 10, 2006 Never ever had problems with optimax (althouhg i do fill up at a services, which is always busy) but then had poor results with ultimate? always thought abt trying tesco's but dont really want to risk it and there are no more esso's round here anymore,, they have all closed down!!! i think its mostly down to just personal preferences and what you prefer imo... if tesco's super is soo good why isnt sainsbury's? apparently they use BP fuel!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billinjah 0 Posted March 10, 2006 If any of you are with Elephant insurance you'll have to change as they don't insure cars with any kind of computer chips ive only just insured with them they were fine with all my mods including an ecu chip upgrade, might depend on the underwritter as elepant are just a broker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trig 0 Posted March 10, 2006 I think they are ok if you're over 25. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chubbybrown 0 Posted March 13, 2006 Schmescos 99 is good mate! It contains 5% ethanol!! AND more importantly, *all* Tesco 99 is supplied exclusively by the same refinery (Rumour has it it's BP) to all stations that sell it, so no chance of a dudd tank. Schmescos 99, unlike Optimax, is refined at 99 RON, they don't simply throw boosters into 95. I rate it :-) My motor certainly seems to like it and it's 80 odd p a litre as opposed to 95.9 I work for Bp and sad to say it isnt us that supply it not in scotland anyway as its not sold up here at all http://www.greenergy.com/1024_768.html All the gen is there...... Chubbz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Forinor 0 Posted March 14, 2006 Any ideas when Tescos 99ron is going to be more widely available? We don't have the stuff in Dundee yet and I'm feckin itching to try it out.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VRTrickster 0 Posted March 14, 2006 I rate the Tescos 99ron stuff as well you cant grumble at that price! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
double-6s 0 Posted March 14, 2006 well i've tried the tesco 99 stuff and thought it was poo compared to optimax. don't really know why we're all wasting our breath on the subject, because it's a fact that what you get aint necessarily what it says on the pump. you can be sold optimax by bp and bp fuel by shell etc etc. its all a nonsense! :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trig 0 Posted March 14, 2006 But surely there must be some kind of trading standards as to what the pump is putting out..? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
double-6s 0 Posted March 14, 2006 i guess so mate. but i read a letter in evo from someone at a petrol company that said a whole areas shell petrol was supplied by bp! essex i think? and i think the only iso standards are for 95 and 98 ron?? wonder how double 99 stuff is tested. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
double-6s 0 Posted March 14, 2006 or 95 and 97? gawd knows Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trig 0 Posted March 14, 2006 There were also those stats that kev posted up when Evo tested a MK5 GTI on different fuels and the results were amazing, +10% BHP in certain cases IIRC. I think BP Ultimate came out top. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
double-6s 0 Posted March 14, 2006 yeah i read that mate. it also concluded that it was completely eratic as to what you get i think. with the vr i reckon it depends on the weather etc and what fuel you use -mine was havin it earlier and that was on 95 in the wet! mine tends to feel fine on most things at low to medium revs, and optimax feels better than anything else at high revs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites