Jon_R 0 Posted March 27, 2007 I knew I was never going to be able to afford a VR6 or G60 the moment I wrote off my old car and being a reasonably new driver forgot to take the names of any witnesses. My insurance premium is through the roof on my 1990 1.8 valver. So I have decided to try and get a bit more power out of the old girl so it's K&N filter time, the problem is that nobody seems to agree as to what filter to put in. There seem to be two filters which the sellers of fleabay say will work the 33-2032 and the 33-2029. Now I am about as adept at mechanics as Tony Blair is an sincerity so I thought I would consult the official website to see which will actually fit to be told both of them will do! Good I thought, I'll buy the cheaper. Problem is the specs are all different 33-2032 Product Style: Panel Air Filter Height: 1.125 in (29 mm) Outside Length: 12.063 in (306 mm) Outside Width: 7.125 in (181 mm) Filter Re-Oiling Amount: 1.21 oz (36 ml) Weight: 1.1 lb (0.5 kg) Product Box Length: 13.5 in (343 mm) Product Box Width: 7.75 in (197 mm) Product Box Height: 1.75 in (44 mm) 33-2029 Product Style: Panel Air Filter Height: 1.063 in (27 mm) Outside Length: 12.25 in (311 mm) Outside Width: 7.125 in (181 mm) Filter Re-Oiling Amount: 1.24 oz (37 ml) Inner Wire: No Top Style: Open Weight: 1.1 lb (0.5 kg) Product Box Length: 13.5 in (343 mm) Product Box Width: 7.75 in (197 mm) Product Box Height: 1.75 in (44 mm) Has anyone got the faintest idea how I decide which is right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark_Storm 0 Posted March 27, 2007 The 33-2032 is the one you need, the 33-2029 is for the G60: http://www.knfilters.com/search/appsearch.aspx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon_R 0 Posted March 27, 2007 The 33-2032 is the one you need, the 33-2029 is for the G60: http://www.knfilters.com/search/appsearch.aspx I found the site confusing but if the 33-2032 is for Corrados All then that's what I shall go for. Cheers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daves16v 1 Posted March 27, 2007 I think you need to look into this a little deeper. I had a 3032 which was 311mm long and it didn't fit my valver. I think you need the the 3029 at 306mm which drops stright in. There are other threads on this very subject. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ben16v 0 Posted March 27, 2007 I think you need to look into this a little deeper. I had a 3032 which was 311mm long and it didn't fit my valver. I think you need the the 3029 at 306mm which drops stright in. There are other threads on this very subject. agreed i had these very problem use the search mate you`ll find all you need Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lovinit 0 Posted March 28, 2007 know it doesn't help but don't think these things work too good, performance wise your better off with a stock filter..leaves less crap behind.. and the gains with these filters is hardly noticeable IMO... but then you don't have a charger to worry about... so forget everything i said.. otherwise its the 33-2032 8) J Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveo29 0 Posted March 28, 2007 yeah keep your money and stick with a paper filter....it wont go any faster with a k&n Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cnut 0 Posted March 28, 2007 It might not make your car faster but I noticed a much improved throttle response and eagerness when I installed mine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 28, 2007 know it doesn't help but don't think these things work too good, performance wise your better off with a stock filter agreed, on a VR that is definately the case, never driven a valver so not sure exactly. Its louder, which may make it seem like it is doing more, but the K&N I used to have fitted to my VR, if anything, decreased performance It might not make your car faster but I noticed a much improved throttle response and eagerness when I installed mine. I found the opposite was true, and the OE box had better pickup, but then that was on a VR Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrishill 0 Posted March 28, 2007 I found the opposite was true, and the OE box had better pickup, but then that was on a VR I fitted a k&n and drilled the airbox on my valver, pickup was defiantly better but I doubt that was down to the k&n. I think the 'swiss cheese' mod is probably the best thing you can do to a valver in terms of (quick and cheap) induction systems. just drill a few large holes down the wing side of the airbox, dont go mad though - i did and the car sounded like a spitfire until I patched them up again! Had a K&N cone on the VR which sounded awesome, zero performance difference as far as I could tell but it at least sounded faster :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cnut 0 Posted March 28, 2007 It might not make your car faster but I noticed a much improved throttle response and eagerness when I installed mine. I found the opposite was true, and the OE box had better pickup, but then that was on a VR Mine is on a VR but just to confuse things the K&N panel filter was originally off a 2.0 16v corrado which is much more shallow than the original paper VR one I replaced. So I don't know whether this would make any difference? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 28, 2007 ahh, I was talking about a cone style 57i K&N on mine. it definately lost something in response. I have heard good things about the swiss cheese approach too, personally i'd do that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon_R 0 Posted March 28, 2007 Cheers for the input fellas, a bit confused as to what I am going to do so I figure the best idea would be to have a root under my bonnet and see what the best plan of action is. I can't see myself doing the swiss cheese mod as I simply don't trust myself with a drill and engine bits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrishill 0 Posted March 28, 2007 I simply don't trust myself with a drill and engine bits. dead simple mate, I'm crap at that stuff normally but I managed it without injury to myself or the car (other than putting too many holes in!) once you have the lid of the airbox off, look at how the bottom attaches to the car - 3 or 4 rubber band type things, take those off, undo the circlip at the back and hey-presto, one detached airbox. Take it out, drill a few holes and re-attach! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 28, 2007 worth getting a pic to see what we are talking about mate, as it maybe hard to picture Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Owen VR6 0 Posted April 28, 2007 I just fitted a k&n cone to my VR and it definitley decreased performance, too much air getting into the engine and not enough fuel, if i wanted to spend £500 on a download for the ECU then it sort it out but i don't have that sort of money! Cheaper to take it out and get the panel filter fitted inside the original box........ i've been told that that will be better? When i fitted it, i noticed that someone had already applied the swiss cheese effect to the bottom of my box! more large hole than swiss cheese to be honest! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supercharged 2 Posted April 28, 2007 The BMC is the only thing that really works in a VR as it is enclosed and you can run a cold air feed... The VR bay is too tight and prone to heatsoak for anything else... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Owen VR6 0 Posted April 28, 2007 where would i find one of those and how much are they? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supercharged 2 Posted April 28, 2007 Stealth racing sell them - about £150 I think - see 'Goldies' gallery thread for pics... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Owen VR6 0 Posted April 28, 2007 Cheers! Looks really nice and solid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dr_mat 0 Posted April 29, 2007 I fitted a K&N to my VR and noticed no difference in the performance whatsoever. It just got louder.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Owen VR6 0 Posted May 5, 2007 Took the K& N off and just so happens i'd put part that the ECU joins onto had been put on th wrong way round! (by me i might add........ ) Put it back on the right way round and hey presto it works, still agree with Dr Mat though, no improvement in performance, abit nosier but that's it, better than a drop i suppose! Doh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites