16v or vr6?

[tim145 0]

Hi guys, ive wanted a corrado for some time now, and I will be hoping to get one in the next few months..

 

I have had an alfa 145 cloverleaf for the last 2yrs which is 0-60 in 8.0 seconds...

 

It would be a shame to pay £150 a year more for insurance for the 2.0 16v corrado when the 0-60 is claimed to be 9.0, as it would feel like a bit of a backwards step..

 

I know the handling would be better but ive noticed that the 2.0 16v in the mk3 golf has 15bhp more than the corrado, making 0-60 8.0...

 

 

I was wondering firstly,

 

are there any simple mods that wont damage the engine of the 16v corrado to cut this time to around 8seconds or lower? ie whether anymore power is possibel out of the unit..

 

 

also,

how much more is a vr6 gunna cost me to run over the 16v? as ive noticed the 0-60 of 6.7 is quick, but with around £2300 being near what i want to spend as a maximum, whether or not any decent vr6's that are reliable can be found?

 

what do u think is worth it?

 

also, my best quotes for insurance are £8oo for the 16v and £95o for the vr6 with elephant,.

 

i was wondering if anyone can suggest any specialists or proven bargain insurance for younger drivers?

 

 

any help for the above would be greatly received

 

 

thanks

[Rimshot 0]

Hmm. This is just my opinion but 0-60 times don't really come into play. Say for instance, i'd have a vr6 for the torque, and the 1.8 with a chip fitted for the accelleration and hooning around.

 

The v6 is the car for lazy speeding, put your foot down in fourth at 40mph and it'll feel alot more special than the Alfa, whilst it may feel a bit sluggish off the mark compared to the 1.8 with a few engine mods. But with the 1.8 you won't get the torque and you'll have to work the engine like hell to get speed up. If you catch me drift.

 

I've simply chipped my 1.8 and the 0-60 is under 8 secs. Also it looks a bit stupid but I have 15 inch wheels too, adding to the accelleration.

 

The handling is sublime on both models though! And i'm sure that you won't be disappointed with whatever choice you make, just think about the fuel bill on the vr6 ;)

[tim145 0]

thanks mate,

 

do you know whether chipping a 2.0 16v would have the same effect?

 

As, i guess with my budget, id like a phase 2 model, say 1994, with the newer interior etc...

 

also where did u get yours done and how much did it cost?

[ben16v 0]

you cant chip a 1.8 16v

 

they`re ok but no `put you in the back of your seat` quick

 

only driven a vr a couple of times but the grunt is great, but the fuel economy if your watching the purse strings would be bad although over a year i imagine they wouldnt be too far off each other depending on the length of the journey

 

considerations would be cost of servicing etc and if you wanted to do any modifications

 

2.0 16v is not much different from the 1.8 just newer interior etc

 

on a budget get a valver lots of parts shared with mk2 golf

 

money to spend get a vr with a turbo/charger

[Jim 2]

Of course the 2.0 16v has the added bonus of the KR cam's... drop in the KR inlet cam from the 1.8 16v (can normally pick em up for about £20) and you give yourself approximately 15BHP :)

[saysomestuff 0]

there's a 16v tuning guide in the knowledgebase wiki IIRC

 

Also, check out clubgti forums, search on 9A tuning and you'll see how easy more power is. But for real world lazy driving i'm not sure you can bet the VR, you do need to hold the 16v over 3.5 - 4k rpm to put a smile on your face.

[Kevin Bacon 5]

If money is limited, I would not get a VR6!

 

The 16V is a bit more nimble than the VR6, so personally I'd enjoy hooning that around it's spirtitual home - B roads - rather than lumbering about in a VR6 barge, scoffing petrol (and oil).

 

Whilst very powerful, heavily modified Corrados address all the weaknesses, you don't often get the chance to enjoy them to the full....so kick back and enjoy a valver to begin with.

[Jim Bowen 1]

i must say the thing i like about my VR is being able to cruise around in 4th, take roundabouts in 4th and still pull away effortless up to 60mph again, plus you can floor it and still get up to 100mph plus (when on track for example) :lol:

 

lazy speeding indeed

[davidwort 0]

There's a number of Corrado owners that have one of each and seem to like both in different ways.

The awkward thing about the 16v is it's chassis and weight distribution is great for B roads but the engine is best suited to the M-way, the VR6 has the torque to haul you out of B road bends but also has a big lump mounted quite far forward fighting against you. There's 100Kg difference between a valver and a VR6 and virtually all of that is in front of the driver.