andy35554 0 Posted February 18, 2008 I have a 95 vr6, 130k on the clock It has original timing chain and clutch Tappets are noisy small oil leaks of rocker gasket Suspect head gasket failing due to mayo on the oil filler cap, tho not present all the time, coolant requires top up due to losing it into engine possibly Performance and mpg seem crap too.... I wish to rebuild the engine so need advise on who to use and what to get done. I am in the northwest. If it costs too much i have a mechanic friend who i could use to do the work for a nominal cash fee....so what bits will i need? Can someone give a ballpark figure on a garage to do the work, and a good garage, but also cost of parts for a friend to do Any advise please many thanks andy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dukest 0 Posted February 18, 2008 really 13k?? :shock: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MK1Campaign 0 Posted February 18, 2008 A proper VR rebuild will cost you around £3k at a VW specialist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy35554 0 Posted February 18, 2008 lol typo error there, 130k miles it should have said. Any recomendations for a garage in the north west? cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy 0 Posted February 18, 2008 If you're talking head rebuild, clutch and chains its about a grand for the relevant new bits,(VW) then obviously whatever labour costs you might incur with your mechanic friend. If you mean bottom end work as well then your looking at a fair bit more money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy35554 0 Posted February 18, 2008 If you're talking head rebuild, clutch and chains its about a grand for the relevant new bits,(VW) then obviously whatever labour costs you might incur with your mechanic friend. If you mean bottom end work as well then your looking at a fair bit more money. Sorry, im not really mechanically minded, being electrical background, so the car has a few subtle electrical mods leds etc... I have constant click although its quite quiet when its warm Sounds rough when cold but it starts first time, no blue smoke. Hardly uses any oil really, an occasional top up Coolant system has no leaks but im losing it into the block maybe due to mayo on the oil filler cap. The sump gasket/rocker gasket or somewhere else is leaking and leaving a stain on my drive. I reckon i get about 20mpg, though a lot of town driving and short runs. What determines the need for a top end versus a bottom end/complete rebuild The engine drives ok, just feels a little tired, friends have mentioned valve seats, oil seals, piston rings etc, can these be done on a top end rebuild? cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy35554 0 Posted February 18, 2008 once the engine is sorted the coachwork will have money spent on it too. Too many stonechips!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MK1Campaign 0 Posted February 18, 2008 Stealth racing do chains, tensioners, clutch and full head rebuild for about £1300. Thats what id go for if you bottom end is sound. The clicking could be your tappets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy35554 0 Posted February 18, 2008 Thanks Ben, I have no reason to suspect bottom end problems although im not sure what to look for down there!! I am between liverpool and manchester so ideally would want the work doing up here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy 0 Posted February 18, 2008 I have constant click although its quite quiet when its warm Sounds rough when cold but it starts first time, no blue smoke. Hardly uses any oil really, an occasional top up Coolant system has no leaks but im losing it into the block maybe due to mayo on the oil filler cap. The sump gasket/rocker gasket or somewhere else is leaking and leaving a stain on my drive. I reckon i get about 20mpg, though a lot of town driving and short runs. What determines the need for a top end versus a bottom end/complete rebuild The engine drives ok, just feels a little tired, friends have mentioned valve seats, oil seals, piston rings etc, can these be done on a top end rebuild? cheers The economy is probably not that far off the mark for a lot of town driving and short runs, you only really get into the thirties on a good (>10 mile) run. If you're not using oil and not getting smokey then the bottom end is probably ok. A top end overhall can really bring the VR back to life, however you may not even need that. You can lose water in the oil cooler, this would give you mayo, (also another symptom of short runs btw). Whats the general servicing state, hows the plugs, leads, oil, air filter etc, have you done a fault code scan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy35554 0 Posted February 18, 2008 andy, might have a look at the oil cooler issue, the reason i was thinkin of a top end rebuild was the timing chain has never been done and its major job to do and its done £130000 miles, also it is lumpy and sounds rough when cold, tappets i suspect, i would really like some unbiased opinion on the engine, ie not from a mechanic who is after my wallet. Servicing wise im ok, oil filter is k&n recently cleaned, oil and filter done every 3-5k, plugs about 12 months old and the ht leads 6 month old. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy35554 0 Posted February 18, 2008 fault code scan.... something i managed to get to work on a works laptop once a few years but failed with my own laptop, recenty tried to reinstall with no success. A scan would be good. Any offers around the nw would be appreciated Still need the oil leaks sorting, tarmac driveway doesnt like engine oil! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reggit 0 Posted February 19, 2008 I'll happily scan it for you, but I need to get my lead back off a mate who I lent it to first. Where abouts are you? I live near Preston and work based near Newton-le-Willows, but work mobile so usually around the Manchester area or N-l-W somewhere. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy35554 0 Posted February 19, 2008 Reggit, thats brilliant thanks, im not to far from warrington. Let me know when you have the lead back and i will meet you somewhere cheers andy ps still after a recomendation for nw garage to do engine work. Was also chatting to work mate, says i should get a "rollong road before and after" - local garage to me sold his rolling road unit to someone up preston way! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toad 0 Posted February 19, 2008 I'd look at buying parts from the US, timing chain tensioners kit is around $155 from four season tuning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy35554 0 Posted February 24, 2008 managed to get the scan done ( i think!!) with a laptop from work. Does this mean my car has no errors~? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy35554 0 Posted February 24, 2008 dont think the "dumb" interface off ebay is working, serial type, but im not sure what version of ross tech to use on my pc... seems to work one minute and not the other so i think i will take up any offers around the cheshire or surrounding areas for help in diagnosing any problems Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reggit 0 Posted February 24, 2008 I haven't forgot you, I'm supposed to get my lead back on Tuesday night if mate remembers to bring it. If you ain't sorted it by then send me a PM and I'll look at it for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy35554 0 Posted February 24, 2008 reggit thanks, i have give up trying to communicate with it so i will take up your offer when you have you lead cheers andy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites