dutchboy 0 Posted October 26, 2008 recently fitted fk my coilover struts. Is it normal for the orignal top plates to be sticking up so far? My old suspension never use to. They also turn a little with the steering. Surely not right. Overtightened? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boost monkey 0 Posted October 26, 2008 You mean because the plate is squashed against the mount, or the plate is sitting high? all of my VWs have plates that sit like that, pretty sure it's normal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Critical_Mass 10 Posted October 26, 2008 Yes, as Boost said, its normal! ^^ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toad 0 Posted October 26, 2008 It is normal for them to turn. Can't quite work out how far they are sat away from the top of the tower, but your top mounts *could* be worn. Did you fit new ones when you fitted the suspension? I wouldn't worry overly, you'll probably find out if they are unacceptable at your next MOT... Worth noting that lowered/stiffer suspension does wear topmounts quicker than the original stuff. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coolrado 0 Posted October 26, 2008 It is normal for there to be a gap but not too much, a rough check is the rule of thumb, if you can fit your finger in the gap it's ok but if you can fit your thumb in the gap the topmount is worn out, the picture above does look a bit high though and it does look like the rubber has started to seperate from the metal on the right hand side of the picture, it's also normal for the top plate to turn with the steering, you need to worry if they dont turn as it usually means the bearing has seized and can lead to snapped springs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dutchboy 0 Posted October 27, 2008 well i can definately get my thumb inbetween. They are new top mounts. Weird eh? They are the old style ones which are apparently correct for my car (1993 16v). Could I use the VR6 ones? The weird nuts which are round that have two slots in the top that hold the mounts on? Do they need to be completely tightend down? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coolrado 0 Posted October 27, 2008 yes the slotted nut should be tightened all the way down, this clamps the lower part of the bearing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dutchboy 0 Posted October 27, 2008 what do i use to tighten it. Cant get a proper grip on it. Still cant understand why they stick up to much!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dutchboy 0 Posted October 27, 2008 Also, how can I torque the top nuts because i have to hold the spindle with an allen key so how do i get a torque wrench on there? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coolrado 0 Posted October 27, 2008 you can get a special tool to fit them, but I wouldnt worry too much about torqueing them down as long as they are tight, but you could use the tool on the slotted nut and use the torque wrench on the allen key in the opposite direction. are they new genuine top mounts or patern part ones? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yandards 0 Posted October 27, 2008 you can get a special tool to fit them, but I wouldnt worry too much about torqueing them down as long as they are tight, but you could use the tool on the slotted nut and use the torque wrench on the allen key in the opposite direction. are they new genuine top mounts or patern part ones? You need to be careful doing this type of topmount arrangement up, it is too easy to get the bottom of the top cap (inside bonnet one pictured) to bit into the slotted nut and undo the whole set-up causing crashing over potholes and a bent spring cap. Halfords do a large vortex drivekit these days, hollow through the middle so I would recommend getting one of those. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supercharged 2 Posted October 27, 2008 Or a lambda probe tool and brake allen key if it's 22m, if it's 21mm then just use a 14mm spark plug socket Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Critical_Mass 10 Posted October 27, 2008 or a deep set spanner. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dutchboy 0 Posted October 27, 2008 do you think i should try them with VR6 mounts I have? I cant see what difference they would make really but it's worth a shot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toad 0 Posted October 27, 2008 I wound my castle nuts down until they were tight then nipped them up with a hammer and punch. Dunno if that is really a reccomended method though... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
colinstubbs 0 Posted October 27, 2008 Deep socket in molegrips with an alllen key down the middle, get a mate to help! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
colinstubbs 0 Posted October 27, 2008 Deep socket in molegrips with an alllen key down the middle, get a mate to help! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Hub 0 Posted October 27, 2008 I got a VW/Audi strut top removal tool from my local tool shop, smaller tool shops won't stock them. Only cost me £5. Halfrauds can order them in for you too, but they were looking for £12.95. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites