IT LIVES !!!!!!!!!

[MuckinFunkee 0]

Hi, not quite sure where to go with this but I am nuff depressed ...

 

Thursday - took G60 from Derby to Rotherham & back - ran sweet, never missed a beat

 

Friday - just went to work and back, about 6 mile round trip - no probs

 

Saturday - went shopping, complaining to husband that car has a strange knock coming from supercharger side of engine and wont accelerate properly and feels what can only be described as "like its holding back"

 

Sunday - supposed to be meeting people and going for a drive, got about 300 yds before the car decided it didnt want to go above 20 mph and threatened to cut out everytime you dip the clutch or try and accelerate

 

Monday - towed the car from Derby to Nottingham to be looked at by the Garage (if that appears on "spotted i'll die of shame )

 

Tuesday - Garage rings, now this is the garage I have used forever and trust implicitly, quote "Hi Helen, dont know if this is good news or bad news but I cant find whats wrong with your car, now it will just tick over for a couple of mins before dying, im having it recovery trucked to another garage who specialise in dubs (again if this appears on "spotted" im gonna die) and having them have a look and put it on their diagnostics machine"

 

Wednesday - Who knows, I darent answer the phone tomorrow ! :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

 

Anyone had this or similar before, or can share any ideas at all,

 

Thanks, a very very very sad Helen x

[DanVW 0]

Sounds exactly like the symptoms mine showed when the crank bolt worked loose get them to check the timing make sure all the marks line up, not too bad a job you should just need a new crank pully a DX bolt and washer (as long as the loose pully has not dammaged the end of the crank)

[Jon_vr6 1]

Sad news Helen it will get sorted as long as the garage knows their cars. Kates old 16valver(Devils Car) was always in the garage and had a multitude of problems, remember her saying about a time when the car wouldnt idle or summet, she said she took it to a few garages and it came back the same so things could be worse Helen! Sucks waiting round for the dreaded phonecall though! Hope its good news

 

Jon

[MuckinFunkee 0]

Sounds exactly like the symptoms mine showed when the crank bolt worked loose get them to check the timing make sure all the marks line up, not too bad a job you should just need a new crank pully a DX bolt and washer (as long as the loose pully has not dammaged the end of the crank)

 

Hi, thanks for replying, I will mention that to him tomorrow, I really hope you are right, I have visions of it being a new engine or supercharger, just shocking how its gone from fine to s**t in so little time

[DanVW 0]

Yep exactly how mine was but it went from running fine to loosing power and stalling in about 500 meters and after that it wouldnt start at all because the timing was so far out, it was the first time I had ever attempted anything more complcated than changing the oil and filter on my car so it's really not that hard to sort :lol:

 

Any garage worth their salt should be able to check the timing marks line up or not and once identifed the will need to remove the Crank pully and replace with a new one and a MK1 dx Bolt and Washer (have a search on here for more info on this)

 

Best of luck :-)

 

Dan

[weetos 0]

dgifant relay could also be worth checking

[mort1414 0]

any news hope things are all ok

 

worst case stick a 20vt in there

[MuckinFunkee 0]

Dan vw you are awesome !! :clap: :notworthy: :clap:

 

The good news is you were spot on with your diagnosis, so a big piece of chocolate cake for you

 

the bad news is the guy at the garage said the the crankshaft is really worn so needs a new one, the really bad news is just phoned the stealers and they are £352 .... :pale: :pale: :pale: :pale:

 

garage guy says you can get a new pulley and use metal repair paste, but theres no guarantees this will hold, and he said its not the best idea

 

anyone any input, or got a crankshaft lying around ?

[Supercharged 2]

Hello - Glad you found the problem fairly quickly - the pulley is cheap but as you say the crank itself is not...

 

You can however re-face them if it's not too bad - there is a special tool for this and I know Steve at C&R has one so that could be an option.

[MuckinFunkee 0]

Hello - Glad you found the problem fairly quickly - the pulley is cheap but as you say the crank itself is not...

 

You can however re-face them if it's not too bad - there is a special tool for this and I know Steve at C&R has one so that could be an option.

 

You also appear to be awesome :grin: I shall get the car back and go see steve

 

Thanks, H

[DanVW 0]

Dan vw you are awesome !! :clap: :notworthy: :clap:

 

The good news is you were spot on with your diagnosis, so a big piece of chocolate cake for you

 

the bad news is the guy at the garage said the the crankshaft is really worn so needs a new one, the really bad news is just phoned the stealers and they are £352 .... :pale: :pale: :pale: :pale:

 

garage guy says you can get a new pulley and use metal repair paste, but theres no guarantees this will hold, and he said its not the best idea

 

anyone any input, or got a crankshaft lying around ?

 

Yea when the Garage guys says it needs a new one how bad is it? Mine was slightly chewed but i fitted a new Crank pully and DX Bolt and its been fine ever since, well worth taking it down to Steve though I have never met him, I have a stack of C+R receipts from the PO of my car and he has a top reputation on here.

 

Best of luck and keep us informed

 

Cheers

 

Dan

[MuckinFunkee 0]

:pukeright: :bad-words: :pale: :pukeright: :pale: :cry: :cry: :pukeright:

 

Just had a call from the garage, I think he is trying to push me over the edge, I'm gonna have to nip down there and see how bad this crankshft actually is because, he says it has to be replaced, its £250 to regrind the new secondhand one (or £362 for a brand new one from vw) about £800 labour :pale: and he is saying while its apart because its done just over 100k he will have to check the clutch and possibly replace it , valves for burning ????, shells ??????? and something else that is associated with them ???? definetly change the cam belt, pulleys, water pump, oil n filter change (I did one of these bout 6 weeks ago) basically I'm not bad for a girl where cars are concerned but he has left me behind (wtf r shells????) bottom line he says its coming in at about £1500 :help: thats without vat :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: ....... anyone know anybody interested in a 2ltr 8v for sale, I said I wasn't gonna part with my other one, but now it looks like i'm gonna have to :( :( :( I have just discovered its possible to feel sad, annoyed, sick, bewildered, stressed and downright :censored: ed off all at the same time ! Its not a nice feeling,

 

H

[swiftkid 1]

Just an idea for you, you could just look for somebody selling a g60 engine? bet you could pick one up and get it put in for alot cheaper than a rebuild.

[MuckinFunkee 0]

Just an idea for you, you could just look for somebody selling a g60 engine? bet you could pick one up and get it put in for alot cheaper than a rebuild.

 

I was wondering this too, then thought what if I do that then the same thing happens again ..... :eek: I was thinking maybe if I get this one done at least I know its good for a while, not sure what to do tbh

[swiftkid 1]

good point, i had the very same choice... had a vr6 in bits and the choice of buying another vr6 engine. in the end i rebuilt the vr6, cost me alot of money but did it myself so saved ALOT on labour but runs like an absolute dream now *touch wood* and i know its been done right with no shortcuts.

 

BUT

 

you could look carefully and find a well looked after g60 engine with full documentation and get it checked over before you stick it in. rebuilding an engine is very time consuming and labour intensive so it will cost alot. But end of the day its upto you.

[DanVW 0]

:pukeright: :bad-words: :pale: :pukeright: :pale: :cry: :cry: :pukeright:

 

Just had a call from the garage, I think he is trying to push me over the edge, I'm gonna have to nip down there and see how bad this crankshft actually is because, he says it has to be replaced, its £250 to regrind the new secondhand one (or £362 for a brand new one from vw) about £800 labour :pale: and he is saying while its apart because its done just over 100k he will have to check the clutch and possibly replace it , valves for burning ????, shells ??????? and something else that is associated with them ???? definetly change the cam belt, pulleys, water pump, oil n filter change (I did one of these bout 6 weeks ago) basically I'm not bad for a girl where cars are concerned but he has left me behind (wtf r shells????) bottom line he says its coming in at about £1500 :help: thats without vat :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: ....... anyone know anybody interested in a 2ltr 8v for sale, I said I wasn't gonna part with my other one, but now it looks like i'm gonna have to :( :( :( I have just discovered its possible to feel sad, annoyed, sick, bewildered, stressed and downright :censored: ed off all at the same time ! Its not a nice feeling,

 

H

 

Is this some local garage or C+R? I would try and get it to someone who has dealt with this kind of problem before.. (I know easier said than done when your pride and joy is off the road :( ) but the G60 is a special beast and needs to be looked at by someone with a bit of experience on them, anyway have a look at my thread from when this happened to me you can see the crank damage in the pics I posted and all I did was file the end of the crank flat (no special tool just a metal file) and fitted the new pully and like I said its been fine ever since :)

 

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=47645&p=561386#p561386

 

Cheers

 

Dan

[MuckinFunkee 0]

Hi Dan, (and everyone else)

thanks for your input, I have just been to the garage to see it, its a right mess, the keyway is non existent, I looked at your before pics and went "cor I wish mine looked like that" lmao!

the timing was 3 teeth out !!

At least now ive seen it with my own eyes I can apreciate how bad it is, wish I had taken a pic of it to show you, but I just stood there open mouthed, was looking at the cam belt while I was there, thats in a right mess too, doesn't look like its ever been done! its nearly as smooth on the inside as the outside, the water pump looks like its gonna fall apart if you sneezed on it, so perhaps this is a blessing in disguise, at least it is fixable its still at my garage, the guy has pimped the crank work out to an associate of his who does specialise in dubs used to work for vw and owns 2 g60's and a golf rallye, so quite confident about him

I was thinking about it on the way there and have decided to stick with this engine, get it fixed at least then I have piece of mind that its as sound as can be, Dont plan on having another car for ages so its worth it in the long run, gave him a grand while I was there (that hurt lol!! :pale: ) and said ill bring the other £500 when I pick it up, which should be about 2 weeks, you know if I get it back and the supercharger or summat goes im gonna push it off a cliff !!

 

Anyway im off for a bloody big glass of Jack daniels ... make that a bottle (I have no car for 2 weeks might as well take advantage lol :grin: )

 

Thanks again H x

[wippy 0]

Jesus Christ !!!!! a new crank what the hell has happened to the world , i cannot believe that nobody can repair anything anymore they just throw the old away and replace it, i understand that not everyone is able to repair things but so called garages???? if it happened to mine it would be a few zapps with the welder out with the file and back on the road in a few hours, it really angers me , where the hell have all the skilled people gone????? Rant over :D

[MuckinFunkee 0]

Yikes !! didnt mean to upset you, the entire end of the crank is shredded, I will ask him to save it and will post a pic of it

[Jon_vr6 1]

Bad luk that Helan at least a few things get sorted and should be good for a while then hope to see it all looking good soon!

[culshaw 1]

fuckin hell helen thats awful, and i was annoyed about mine!!

 

hope this is the last of the worries on a road to recovery!!!

[MuckinFunkee 0]

**** hell helen thats awful, and i was annoyed about mine!!

 

hope this is the last of the worries on a road to recovery!!!

 

Hi :wave:

Where have you been hiding? rang u the other week see if u needed any help with the work on yours, offer still stands if you do, am doin the discs and pads on best m8's 300zx tomorrow,

theres plenty of space on the drive for you now mine is in the garage for 2 weeks !! :pale:

I hope im doing the right thing repairing it too, im going down the lines of better the devil you know ..... ?

[wippy 0]

Yikes !! didnt mean to upset you, the entire end of the crank is shredded, I will ask him to save it and will post a pic of it

 

lol not upset i just get a lot of people coming to me to get stuff fixed after garages have quoted silly amounts of money to replace them, by what you have said yours is proper mangled but still these things can be repaired although if you have to pay someone to do it a new one would probably be more cost effective, i have a new crank bolt sitting in front of me right now waiting for me to get time to fit it, perhaps i will find time tomorrow after reading this :D

[MuckinFunkee 0]

I CANT TAKE ANYMORE !!! :mad2: :censored: :bad-words: :mad:

 

So after everything going on with my car this week Last night some chavtastic little :censored: !!! Decided it was a nice night to go round the whole estate, breaking into EVERYONES (almost everyones) car including Lees G60 on the drive, wierdly they took the stereo front out of the drivers door pocket (you really dont need to tell me this is a bad place to keep it) they removed the usb stick from it and left them both on the back seat ???? Took the first aid box out of the back seat and left it on the front passenger seat ???? left all the tools in the boot ???? took the money out of the ashtray (about £15) and took the ashtray?????? which also had the tools for removing the stereo in it and the locking wheel nut key, but left the stereo ???? rifled through the glove box and found ..... my tom tom :( again, I know stupid place to leave it, the good news is its about knackered anyway, it wont hold a charge and struggles to keep a signal, so tonight I'm gonna wait up to see if the little :censored: is brave enough to come back for the wheels !! I have changed the locking nuts so the key is worthless to anyone, and I had a wander down the street earlier found 2 smashed up stereos and Lees ashtray which was thankfully ok and is back in the car.

The really really wierd thing is they made no damage getting in, the drivers door was still locked and just the passenger door had been opened :shrug:

 

Oh and both of our staffies have been sacked for not telling me that some arse was rooting through the car !! .... Thank god this week is nearly over and I can start a fresh tomorrow, H

[swiftkid 1]

thats awful! i really feel for you. one thing i would check is underneath the door handle itself, i had my old car broken into and couldnt find out how they had done it until i was washing my car a while later and found a huge hole underneath the handle where they had stuck a screwdriver in.