With the corrado almost 25 years old free tax would be nice?

[elliott 10]

It's a nice idea however in the governments (lets be seen to be doing something green) future plans to ban/scrap older cars i'll be surprised if it ever happens.

We can but try, so if you'd like to add yourself then maybe we could make a change?

 

https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/2622

[Wullie 1]

Signed

[dalhalvaig 0]

Signed...mmm interesting only Scottish CFers so far

[elliott 10]

We're Scottish! Well renowned for our tightwads :lol:

 

Happy burns night BTW! Time to celebrate our national poet, drunkard, waster and wife beater.

[Stonejag 10]

Signed, chances of it happening firmly pinned against the 0% mark though :(

 

Imagine how many crappy Escorts would fall into this if it was rolling (as originally planned...)

 

Stone

[jamiehamy 0]

Signed. In my humble opinion, I am more environmentally friendly by driving old cars that few people want to buy. I create no demand in the market. I fix things rather than buying complete new components. Everyone focuses on the emissions a car produces, but rarely do you hear about the footprint of the complete supply chain associated with that car. This throw away culture with cars is something that should be stopped....but then, the world would stop (not literally), because jobs would be lost, economies would crash and we'd be in big trouble.

 

The fact is we need to kill the world to keep 'growing', so they can try all they like, we ain't saving anything.

 

Despite all this, I do like the fact that my LPG cars produce significantly less toxic emissions and run on a by-product of oil rather than being the purpose of the drilling etc..., that my milk bags use significantly less raw materials than plastic bottles and that my roof insulation comes from recycled bottles.

 

Rant over.

[VAG-hag 0]

signed

[tentonhammer 10]

Signed. Highly doubt they'll go for it though.

 

Jamiehamy - Totally hear you on the supply chain footprint, been saying this for donkeys

[Stonejag 10]

Signed. In my humble opinion, I am more environmentally friendly by driving old cars that few people want to buy. I create no demand in the market. I fix things rather than buying complete new components. Everyone focuses on the emissions a car produces, but rarely do you hear about the footprint of the complete supply chain associated with that car. This throw away culture with cars is something that should be stopped....but then, the world would stop (not literally), because jobs would be lost, economies would crash and we'd be in big trouble.

My favourite statistic is that buying a Prius and running it for 100,000 miles causes more environmental damage than buying a Hummer H3 and driving it for 300,000 miles! (source). Mostly this is because of the huge amounts of nickel in the Prius battery - here's what it now looks like where they mine it from:

 

I'm definitely not going to feel bad about keeping an older car running!

 

Stone

[tentonhammer 10]

My favourite statistic is that buying a Prius and running it for 100,000 miles causes more environmental damage than buying a Hummer H3 and driving it for 300,000 miles! (source). Mostly this is because of the huge amounts of nickel in the Prius battery - here's what it now looks like where they mine it from:

 

Presuming of course this source is credible - grounds for cheaper road tax? *dreaming of course*

 

Taxed my 92' 16V 2.0 last week cost me £215

 

My girl's mum taxed her relatively new Skoda (hybrid I think) and it cost her about £50!?

 

Older cars may drink but at least they're simpler to build. The amount of work that goes into making cars nowadays is mind blowing

 

BTW Stone - Think I can see Frodo and Sam in those pics somewhere

[Yandards 0]

Signed.

 

When you look at the lengths motor manufacturers are going to to keep weight down and thereby improve fuel range the old Corrado is actually pretty good.

 

The addition of a 6 speed gearbox to the VRs and G60s would see some very good fuel economy.

[elliott 10]

The only way to cheap motoring is diesel, veg oil and pre '73 or go electric. Old cars with later power plants still qualify for historic tax... mmm got me thinking now?

Anyone done a corrado electric conversion :lol:

[Ralphead 0]

The government stopped the rolling deadline two weeks after I bought a 24 year old Vauxhall Viva. B~~tards...

 

My way of thinking is the older the car the more economical it is. My Dad's 1968 Volvo gets nearly 30mpg, pretty damn good for an old tuned car with 300k+ miles. Granted that's not great compared to his 306 diesel.

But it's already three times the age at which most cars are scrapped. Therefore none of the fuel and resources needed to recycle three old, and then make and ship three new, cars have been involved. By default the longer this goes on the greater the savings.

 

This "green car" business is all a **** in the wind anyway. The waste that goes on everywhere else eclipses car emissions and fuel usage many times over. Alot of people are being guilt tripped by profiteers into believing they're destroying the world by not doing 50mpg.

Well **** on that.

 

FairFuelUK.com

[Tempest 0]

It´s not about the environment, it´s all about job preservation in certain nations that are dependent on the car industry: Germany, France, to a certain degree even Britain, as it supplies parts to the big car manufacturing countries. hence the government frantically trying to get us folks to scrap our cars. In Germany this is always effectively demonstrated again by the sheer volume of anti-car legislation that is introduced, often targeted at specifically older cars, always quoting the environment as the driving force behind the relevant legislation.

 

Tempest

[jamiehamy 0]

The only way to cheap motoring is diesel, veg oil and pre '73 or go electric. Old cars with later power plants still qualify for historic tax... mmm got me thinking now?

Anyone done a corrado electric conversion :lol:

 

No but my old T25 van runs quite happily on 50% of Costco's finest @£1 a litre and 35mpg :)

[Ralphead 0]

Kero

[Stonejag 10]

Some older high-compression diesels can run on high proportions of contaminated fuel without much loss in performance. The great thing is, when your local car hire company has a car that's misfuelled, it's almost always people putting petrol in a diesel car - they have to pump the tank out into a storage unit at base and then pay a licensed waste contractor to take it away. The paperwork trail only starts when the waste disposal people arrive, so rather than paying to get rid of it they may just give it to you ;) Since it's 95% diesel it still works fine as a fuel, and it's already had fuel duty paid on it so Customs & Excise won't come after you either!

 

Big engines work best - I know a guy running a Russian Zil truck on 50% contam and it makes a huge difference to running costs. Lots of the military vehicle collectors use the same trick...plus if it has tracks you don't need an MOT

 

Stone

[Yandards 0]

The government stopped the rolling deadline two weeks after I bought a 24 year old Vauxhall Viva. B~~tards...

 

My way of thinking is the older the car the more economical it is. My Dad's 1968 Volvo gets nearly 30mpg, pretty damn good for an old tuned car with 300k+ miles. Granted that's not great compared to his 306 diesel.

But it's already three times the age at which most cars are scrapped. Therefore none of the fuel and resources needed to recycle three old, and then make and ship three new, cars have been involved. By default the longer this goes on the greater the savings.

 

This "green car" business is all a **** in the wind anyway. The waste that goes on everywhere else eclipses car emissions and fuel usage many times over. Alot of people are being guilt tripped by profiteers into believing they're destroying the world by not doing 50mpg.

Well **** on that.

 

FairFuelUK.com

 

AH but if you can prove it was built in 1972 then it qualifies for free tax.

[elliott 10]

No but my old T25 van runs quite happily on 50% of Costco's finest @£1 a litre and 35mpg :)

 

Is it a £1 now? Was 85p last time i was in :lol: I was running the 250 merc on it and my brother runs 50-50 in his 300 merc both getting around 40mpg. Makes me feel hungry every time we're in convoy tho...

 

 

AH but if you can prove it was built in 1972 then it qualifies for free tax.

 

Yeah, i've seen a lot of series land rovers that look awfully like defenders ;)

Edited January 27, 2012 by elliott

[Rustynuts 0]

Signed. 1 car would already qualify, 2 getting near