stig beve 10 Posted November 13, 2013 My hall sensor has just disintegrated in my dizzy, looking for a replacement. For a 1992 obd1 Corrado vr6, rotor arm and cap not required. What you got? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vw rule 19 Posted November 14, 2013 Hello there, there are a few guys off this forum who break VR6 Corrado's now & again, but if you have no joy finding any, then there are a few other options for you. 1) Euro Car Parts sell 2.9 VR6 Distributor. Part number is: 40 34 40 250 Listed as BOSCH Distributor Cost is £228.40 2) You could try your local VW Dealer but you really need to be sitting down, as the price from them will be well over the £300.00 mark. 3) You could try to obtain a 2.8 VR6 distributor but normally the ECU's are different to that of a 2.9, and so could the hall sendor in the dizzy, I don't know this for sure though. There is a new Distributor for sale on Ebay but it's for a 2.8 VR6 plus it's in the USA cost is around £85.32 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jetta-Passat-Corrado-VW-V6-VR6-2-8L-Ignition-Distributor-/231045919568?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3ACorrado&hash=item35cb68f350 4) You also could try this place below, it's a scrap yard, and they break Corrado's almost every day. Tel: 01295 263672 Malc Berry [email protected] Banbury Motor Spares Ltd Malc Berry Thorpe Mead,Thorpe Way Industrial Estate Banbury Oxfordshire OX16 4RZ 5) Or you could always contact BOSCH directly if your original dizzy is a Bosch one, all you need is the Bosch number off your old dizzy, and they might be able to supply you with a replacement hall sensor. BOSCH UK contact details are I think. Tel: 0844 892 0115 Or try this web site as it should tell you where your nearest BOSCH outlet is to you. http://www.boschautoparts.co.uk Once the above web site has opened up, simply go to the top of the Bosch front page and click on DEALER LOCATOR, then a small box will appear, when it does, scroll to the very top of that list, where it says AUTOMOTIVE PART SUPPLIER. Here it will ask you to put in a City name or Post Code near to where you are, once you've entered it, it should tell you your closest BOSCH DEALER. Hope this helps. Si Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
southerner88 10 Posted November 14, 2013 Hello there, there are a few guys off this forum who break VR6 Corrado's now & again, but if you have no joy finding any, then there are a few other options for you. 1) Euro Car Parts sell 2.9 VR6 Distributor. Part number is: 40 34 40 250 Listed as BOSCH Distributor Cost is £228.40 2) You could try your local VW Dealer but you really need to be sitting down, as the price from them will be well over the £300.00 mark. 3) You could try to obtain a 2.8 VR6 distributor but normally the ECU's are different to that of a 2.9, and so could the hall sendor in the dizzy, I don't know this for sure though. There is a new Distributor for sale on Ebay but it's for a 2.8 VR6 plus it's in the USA cost is around £85.32 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jetta-Passat-Corrado-VW-V6-VR6-2-8L-Ignition-Distributor-/231045919568?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3ACorrado&hash=item35cb68f350 4) You also could try this place below, it's a scrap yard, and they break Corrado's almost every day. Tel: 01295 263672 Malc Berry [email protected] Banbury Motor Spares Ltd Malc Berry Thorpe Mead,Thorpe Way Industrial Estate Banbury Oxfordshire OX16 4RZ 5) Or you could always contact BOSCH directly if your original dizzy is a Bosch one, all you need is the Bosch number off your old dizzy, and they might be able to supply you with a replacement hall sensor. BOSCH UK contact details are I think. Tel: 0844 892 0115 Or try this web site as it should tell you where your nearest BOSCH outlet is to you. http://www.boschautoparts.co.uk Once the above web site has opened up, simply go to the top of the Bosch front page and click on DEALER LOCATOR, then a small box will appear, when it does, scroll to the very top of that list, where it says AUTOMOTIVE PART SUPPLIER. Here it will ask you to put in a City name or Post Code near to where you are, once you've entered it, it should tell you your closest BOSCH DEALER. Hope this helps. Si Could you be a little more specific with your information please lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vw rule 19 Posted November 14, 2013 Oh yeah sorry :lol: :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stig beve 10 Posted November 14, 2013 Wow. Wasn't expecting such an in depth reply, thanks for all the info :) I have just got off the phone to the local trade parts specialist and they informed me that they stopped stocking the part in 2009, I was pointed in the direction of contacting Bosch directly. News from Bosch is they could supply the part but it would cost me the sum of £375.00 + vat, so I graciously declined and have since messaged a few people from the bay of E who are breaking vr6 golfs/Corrados. It is my understanding that both the AAA and ABV VR6 engines that utilise a distributer both share the same part does anyone know if this is true. I will also be contacting the above scrapyard to see if they have the part, so thank you for all the info :). It's a shame that you can't just buy a rebuild kit for the sensor as all the mechanicals in my distributor work fine it's just the hall sensor. Symptoms I'm getting are as follows: Extending cranking before the engine 'catches' whilst starting. Poor fuel economy (worse than usual ;)) And the occasional 'kick' misfire. I have since cable tied the hall sensor in place and it has resolved all the above issues. So I know this part is the culprit. But I would like a more permanent solution over the cable tie lol. Here's a pic of the engine in question just to give this topic something shiny to look at. Steve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stig beve 10 Posted November 14, 2013 Sorry for the multiple replies, newbie to this forum and I'm using the 'tapatalk' app which didn't show me that my posts had to be moderated before they are visible, I just assumed something had gone wrong Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vw rule 19 Posted November 14, 2013 Hello Steve, There doesn't seem to be anyone selling a hall sensor kit for the VR6, only really the complete distributor, I thought possibly BOSCH directly might have sold you one, but £375.00 just for a distributor from them like you say is on the steep side. I believe you can purchase the hall sensor for most of the 4 cylinder VW engines, it costs around £55.00 I think this is due to them being very common. Or for £57.00 to £70.00 you can purchase a after market distributor for the 16v's and G60 Corrado's, but to get the original spec BOSCH one it could be around £120.00 Some distributors you can change / replace the hall sensors, but on others they're a sealed unit so you can't, in which case it'll be a new distributor or a secondhand one. When these hall sensors do start to fail it depends on what type is used in the dizzy, as some will not allow the car to start at all once the sensor is weak, where as others still work just but the side effect is the car won't drive above 50ish MPH, and the whole cars performance will be effected. This sounds a lot like what you're having, the misfire / popping out of the exhaust could be the hall sensors position has moved slightly, as you said that you had to cable tie it up to keep it straight and tight, basically there's really small tolerances with in the hall sensor, as the gap between sensor and contact disc is so small, so any misalignment will greatly effect it's ability, which you already know as you've cable tied it up, as said above. I take it Steve the connector plug is ok for the distributor i.e from main wiring loom ? Anything bolted to the engine or near to it will suffer greatly with heat damage over time, if they're made of rubber or plastic. Basically the hall sensor is similar to the crank sensor, as they both need to pick up a break in signal (any rotation passing it's face) Hall sensor is normally inside the distributor, which tells the coil when to fire with the assistance of the ignition amplifier, which basically amplifies the power of the spark. So if the coil is dead the car won't start and the same goes for the ignition amplifier. The hall sensor reads off a round disc plate which normally has 4 continuous solid wings, with 4 slots (4 slots = gaps) this is to make the hall sensor pulsate off & on, other wise the coil would be firing all the time like a bolt of lightning none stop. Plus the distributor is fitted in the back of the cylinder head or engine block, but only when the engine is set at TDC meaning that number 1 cylinder is at the top of it's stroke, ready for the suction stroke i.e 1= suck, 2= squeeze, 3= bang, 4= blow. so if you were to remove the distributor cap, you should see that the rotor arm is pointing at N.o 1 HT lead, this is to ensure that the distributor / hall sensor spin in the correct sequence / time as the engine does. This is because the hall sensor unlike the crank sensor doesn't know when the engine has completed a full rotation. With the crank sensor they're normally only on vehicles fitted with a full HT lead powered coil, meaning all the HT leads work off the same one coil, so there will be no King lead used on this system. The crank sensor is normally fitted just above the crankshaft pulley, and detects the pulley's movement which then tells the high powered coil to fire in sequence. If you looked at a crank pulley from one of these engines, you will see small square shaped teeth all of the same size, but one will be slightly larger / longer then the rest, that's because this one tooth tells the ignition system that the engine has completed one full rotation. The crank sensor can be fitted just above the crank pulley on most engines like on the later VR6, or it can be fitted to the top of the gearbox bell housing and reads off the flywheel, which will have teeth on that just behind the starting ring gear. Or they can be fitted directly into the engine block at the front close to number 1 main journal, and read off the crankshaft directly. Hope this helps. Si Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dox 23 Posted November 17, 2013 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CORRADO-GOLF-PASSAT-VR6-2-8-2-9-DISTRIBUTOR-/190972929521?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2c76dfa5f1 Not sure if this is the correct one and its not mine either Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stig beve 10 Posted November 17, 2013 Thanks dox, that's the one I'm looking for, looks to be intact to. :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VAG-hag 0 Posted November 17, 2013 I may have one from my breaker.... ill check for you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robrado974 1 Posted November 17, 2013 Dizzy cap and hall sender £150.00from Tps Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stig beve 10 Posted November 17, 2013 That would be handy vag-hag. Thanks I tried Tps last week they assured me on the phone they stopped stocking it in 2009. Unless that's just the cornwall branch? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robrado974 1 Posted November 17, 2013 That's a bummer , another stock item on the deleted pile then ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stig beve 10 Posted November 17, 2013 You can still get them from Bosch but they are very pricey. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VAG-hag 0 Posted January 1, 2014 That would be handy vag-hag. Thanks I tried Tps last week they assured me on the phone they stopped stocking it in 2009. Unless that's just the cornwall branch? Sorry steve, forgot all about this. I have the dizzy available if you are still in need? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robrado974 1 Posted January 2, 2014 Sorry steve, forgot all about this. I have the dizzy available if you are still in need? If not needed by steve i will take it please , how much mr vag ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VAG-hag 0 Posted January 2, 2014 Well to keep it fair shall we give steve a few days to respond? If he doesnt reply ill hold it for you rob. Was thinking £30, p&p should be £5. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robrado974 1 Posted January 2, 2014 Well to keep it fair shall we give steve a few days to respond? If he doesnt reply ill hold it for you rob. Was thinking £30, p&p should be £5. No worries , yes fair play totaly agree with that Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stig beve 10 Posted January 6, 2014 Sorry it’s taken me so long to reply, have been without internet for a few weeks, I have replaced the distributor since writing this post and all the problems have been resolved although being a corrado it has obviously accumulated some more since then... lol thanks for bearing me in mind with the part though guys much appreciated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VAG-hag 0 Posted January 6, 2014 No worries steve, all the best finding the gremlins Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites