Corrado vr6 vs sierra cosworth

[maff 10]

Was driving home other night and about three cars ahead was a cossie which was obviosly in a bit of a hurry and i was gonna ignore it but i thought nah it' ll be interesting to see how the old vr6 goes against it. After finding myself behind him now and coming out of a 30 zone im in second waiting for him to go as he obviously cant wait, he guns it and so do i, 2nd gear dead even, 3rd im catchin ever so slighty, 4th hes deffo mine and could of comfortably passed him but ran out of road, pretty pleased with the corrado as you do forget how quick they can be and i bet the cossie was chipped too. :)

[dinkus 10]

You sure he didn't just ease off cos he was going fast enough? I woulda thought he'd leave you for dead. Nice to know he didn't tho 8)

[pablo_vr6 0]

sure it was a cossie? ;)

 

cmon like the VR6 is quick but a cossie? and last week someone held against an RS4? :shock:

 

evo owners will be feeling the pinch next

[chubbybrown 0]

I would have thought the cossie would have had you.

[Valver 0]

Early Cossie's were 'only' 204bhp iirc (not sure how much torque tho) so power/weight would be pretty even I reckon. Also, they're quite easy to catch 'off boost' as the turbo doesn't spool up til 3.5k revs iirc so I'm not really that surprised!!?........ :wink: :mrgreen:

[maff 10]

On my mothers grave he was giving everything he could and i even had to back off slighty but then crept up to his rear wheels just to let him know i could of had him. He was 2 up though and i was on my own. How much horsepower have these got then?, im guessing 200, 220 it was a G plate

[OSV 0]

I have a video of a friend going against one in his VR6 Corrado at Santa Pod a few years ago, whilst no records were broken by either the Corrado finished marginally the quicker on this occasion. The driver is a key factor of course and i'm not in a position to give a informed opinion of their merits, just that it can be done.

[dinkus 10]

Heh heh, worth bearing in mind next time some Essex bell end says the VR is crap :D

[AdamB 0]

I would have thought the cossie would have been quicker, but its nice to know that the corrado would get to its destination with the car in one piece, and with all the interior trim in place! A friend of mine has an Escort Cosworth up for sale, that was in my price range when I bought the Storm. Bottom line though - Its still a ford, and every other escort has a whale tale on the back now!

[maff 10]

To be honest i know the road very well and was driving the living daylights out of my car, which i always feel guilty about afterwards

[stevemac 0]

On my mothers grave he was giving everything he could and i even had to back off slighty but then crept up to his rear wheels just to let him know i could of had him. He was 2 up though and i was on my own. How much horsepower have these got then?, im guessing 200, 220 it was a G plate

 

Nice one m8, so far as I'm aware the later cozzies had approx 210bhp.

 

Not quite so quick as the legend would have it, certainly not by modern standards. Cosworth escorts are a bit quicker - more bhp, lighter body, etc.

[vr6storm 0]

On my mothers grave he was giving everything he could and i even had to back off slighty but then crept up to his rear wheels just to let him know i could of had him. He was 2 up though and i was on my own. How much horsepower have these got then?, im guessing 200, 220 it was a G plate

 

Nice one m8, so far as I'm aware the later cozzies had approx 210bhp.

 

Not quite so quick as the legend would have it, certainly not by modern standards. Cosworth escorts are a bit quicker - more bhp, lighter body, etc.

 

 

late saphy cossie's(4x4 models) had 224bhp as standard the same as the replacement escort cossie......the only change was the larger turbo in the first few years production of the escort cossie(same as sappy cossie but for homologation purposes IIRC)..then they adopted the smaller turbo(still same power output but quicker spooling up) and also had the option of deleting the whale-tail spoiler circa 95-ish :wink:

[BlackberryVR6 0]

The in-gear accelerations for the VR6 were quicker than the escort cossie, which had 225 bhp, so he could potentially beat a cossie. My friend has driven my VR and says it feels quicker than some of the turbo cars he's tried on track days. Most of it comes down to the driver though. I've been braced into the passenger seat of an astra 1.8 SRI that has dropped a cossie on driver ability alone. The SRI went ok, but nowhere near VR territory. It was just driven by someone with bigger nuts than the cossie driver!

[vr6storm 0]

I would have thought the cossie would have been quicker, but its nice to know that the corrado would get to its destination with the car in one piece, and with all the interior trim in place! A friend of mine has an Escort Cosworth up for sale, that was in my price range when I bought the Storm. Bottom line though - Its still a ford, and every other escort has a whale tale on the back now!

 

 

it maybe a Ford but then again the Corrado is just a VW :wink: ...........bear in mind that the Escort Cossie and Corrado were both built in the same factory......yet for the Escort cossie wearing a Ford badge it murders the Corrado in the re-sale value and also tuneabilty(especially VR6) and IMHO it looks much much more menacing :twisted:

[dazzyvr6 0]

I would have thought the cossie would have been quicker, but its nice to know that the corrado would get to its destination with the car in one piece, and with all the interior trim in place! A friend of mine has an Escort Cosworth up for sale, that was in my price range when I bought the Storm. Bottom line though - Its still a ford, and every other escort has a whale tale on the back now!

 

 

it maybe a Ford but then again the Corrado is just a VW :wink: ...........bear in mind that the Escort Cossie and Corrado were both built in the same factory......yet for the Escort cossie wearing a Ford badge it murders the Corrado in the re-sale value and also tuneabilty(especially VR6) and IMHO it looks much much more menacing :twisted:

 

thing is though any mk4 escort can be made to look like an escorst cosworth but a corrado is just a corrado

[jono 0]

2wd Sapphire Cossie is the fastest of them all and can get from standstill to 60 in 6.1 secs allthough most tested at the time were more like 5.8 and on to 150mph. You have to be very brutaul to get the most out of these cars as the gearchange is very slow and its easy to get wrong even with a quickshift as standard.

To be honest a good standard cossie should beat a VR6 hands down in a straight line, add in a few corners and its more a case of who has the biggest gonads, even worse of its wet.

I have owned a 3 door and a Sapphire and as a far as a drivers car then the 3 door is without doubt one of the best the steering and brakes are without equal IMHO. They are big and heavy but the rewards for pushing them hard are a massive grin, but more through fear than fun.

As far as chipped cars then we all know the pub talk "mines has 400bhp" but honestly if you had that much and drove on a daily basis you wouldn't be alive for long. I had a genuine 350bhp and i couldn't keep the thing in rear tyres never mind in a straight line.

[vr6storm 0]

I would have thought the cossie would have been quicker, but its nice to know that the corrado would get to its destination with the car in one piece, and with all the interior trim in place! A friend of mine has an Escort Cosworth up for sale, that was in my price range when I bought the Storm. Bottom line though - Its still a ford, and every other escort has a whale tale on the back now!

 

 

it maybe a Ford but then again the Corrado is just a VW :wink: ...........bear in mind that the Escort Cossie and Corrado were both built in the same factory......yet for the Escort cossie wearing a Ford badge it murders the Corrado in the re-sale value and also tuneabilty(especially VR6) and IMHO it looks much much more menacing :twisted:

 

thing is though any mk4 escort can be made to look like an escorst cosworth but a corrado is just a corrado

 

 

tis the mk5 escort that was current(i would say based on, but as the Escort Cossie's floorpan is the same floorpan as the Sierra sapphire 4x4 :wink: ) when the Escort Cossie was launched..........the mk4 was 86C-91H/J :wink: .....but very true its easy enough to make a replica out of any 3dr mk5 escort.........but that don't make the original cr@p tho :wink:

[Scruffythefirst 0]

Early Cossie's were 'only' 204bhp iirc (not sure how much torque tho) so power/weight would be pretty even I reckon. Also, they're quite easy to catch 'off boost' as the turbo doesn't spool up til 3.5k revs iirc so I'm not really that surprised!!?........ :wink: :mrgreen:

 

Thats pretty accurate, plus the sierra weighs over 1600kgs OTR.

 

However, 330bhp is just a chip away and in the proper chassis (ie mine) no C would stand a chance.

[vr6storm 0]

 

Thats pretty accurate, plus the sierra weighs over 1600kgs OTR.

 

However, 330bhp is just a chip away and in the proper chassis (ie mine) no C would stand a chance.

 

 

only if they are weighing them with me and my twin :wink: :-P ......the Escort Cossie weighs much and such the same as the Corrado VR6(1275kg's v 1240kg's) and the original 3dr Sierra cossie weighed in at 1200kg whereas the 4dr 4x4 saphy Cossie came in at around 1300kg's......all those figures were measured by the same method by the same magazine(Autocar)

[gibber 0]

Okay lets talk book figures,

 

Corrado 0-60 in 6.4 quarter mile in 15.1

Escort Cosworth 0-60 in 6.3 quarter mile in 15.0

Escort RS Cosworth 0-60 in 6.2 quarter mile in 14.9

Sierra RS Cosworth (1987) 0-60 in 6.1 quarter mile in 14.8

 

Mate mates own Cosworths but wont race me hehe :twisted:

[G60Dan 0]

Okay lets talk book figures,

 

Corrado 0-60 in 6.4 quarter mile in 15.1

Escort Cosworth 0-60 in 6.3 quarter mile in 15.0

Escort RS Cosworth 0-60 in 6.2 quarter mile in 14.9

Sierra RS Cosworth (1987) 0-60 in 6.1 quarter mile in 14.8

 

Mate mates own Cosworths but wont race me hehe :twisted:

 

there's 2 escort cossies there mate

 

I think the 4x4 saff will be the quickest to 60.

 

 

To be fair, a std cossie isn't really no animal. I've sat on the @rse od a std 3 door & getting closer all the time, in my (at the time) 190/200bhp RS Turbo. I'm fairly confident my G60 would have same result. As said above, 330bhp is not much more than a chip away.

[gibber 0]

there's 2 escort cossies there mate

 

Do you thing that is coz there is 2 different escort cosworths??? :lol:

 

My book didnt have the 3 different sierra figures

[G60Dan 0]

good point, small & large turbo :oops:

[vr6storm 0]

good point, small & large turbo :oops:

 

large turbo 92-94/95

small turbo 94/95-96/97

 

:wink:

[Jim 1]

I dunno.. one of these came past me the other night on the way home from Longleat - heard a car coming along side, heard a turbo spool up and he went like someone had just put a stick of dynamite in his car. I wouldn't have stood a chance.