20v turbo 0 Posted December 10, 2003 dont know wether it's just me but when i accelerate hard from a standing start the c wants to go everywhere,it pulls the steering wheel from right to left,not alot but very hard. ive been told this is normal&it's called toque steer.any theory's :? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Riki 0 Posted December 10, 2003 Yep what you are experiencing is torque steer. Because the drive shafts are different lengths on a fwd car you will always get it in a quick car. It will be worse if the car is really low, to the point the the shafts are pointing up coming out the gearbox. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaiosG60 PWR 0 Posted December 11, 2003 I love having to wrestle with the power!! :D :lol: :lol: Its well cool! 8) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
20v turbo 0 Posted December 11, 2003 it doesnt bother me that much but when your following it &your wife is driving it,it bothered me alot,i thought she was going to take half of huddersfield out cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaiosG60 PWR 0 Posted December 11, 2003 Its not for the inexperienced driver! Or anybody who doesnt understand words like oversteer, understeer and off-side for that matter!! :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuksool 0 Posted December 11, 2003 had a frst a while back that was a right bugger for that use to go all over the place you do get used to it thought Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dr_mat 0 Posted December 11, 2003 Not that I've ever driven a G60 (the VR6 has extra suspension tweaks to cut down on torque steer), but nothing, I mean nothing, can compare with the torque steer in a Pug 205 1.9 GTi.. Talk about fighting the wheel, jeez!! :shock: And I was only trying to go in a straight line at the time too! :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted December 11, 2003 Actually, the Golf gearboxed Maestro turbo had the worst torque steer - ever. And the worst gearshift - ever. The tubular shaft was about 6 miles long and the solid shaft, about 5 cm. Shame all FWD cars don't share the Alfasud's equal length driveshafts. I've never had an issue with TS in a high powered VW. You shouldn't get it, or trace amounts of it at worst, with a decent suspension setup and finely tuned geometry settings......and of course, sound ball joints :lol: K Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dr_mat 0 Posted December 11, 2003 Quite, kev. Mine is pulling to the right under power, and pulling to the left under braking at the mo!! Under normal conditions though, no, not a lot of noticeable torque steer from the VR. Certainly it's nowhere near as bad as my 2.0 Cavalier was, and that only had 115bhp... (130lbft tho.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ice White Socks 0 Posted December 11, 2003 The tubular shaft was about 6 miles long and the solid shaft, about 5 cm. :D :D :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted December 11, 2003 Quite, kev. Mine is pulling to the right under power, and pulling to the left under braking at the mo!! Under normal conditions though, no, not a lot of noticeable torque steer from the VR. Certainly it's nowhere near as bad as my 2.0 Cavalier was, and that only had 115bhp... (130lbft tho.) Hmmm...mine doesn't lurch about unless accelerating on rutted roads. Doesn't pull under braking either, but it does pull left instantly when I let go of the wheel. The tracking is known to be correct. I'm hoping these ball joints will sort the problem out! Cavaliers, LOL. I had a Burgundy 2.0 GLi for about 2 months, which was about as long as I could stomach it. Horrid suspension......even the 130bhp SRI's suspension couldn't cope with the power....and the 16V Astra GTE was a complete nightmare.....very quick though! K Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhatVR6 0 Posted December 11, 2003 Fit a syncro gearbox, you almost have equal length driveshafts then. with the added bouns of that you can run 4WD if you're handy with the grinder and welding set! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhatVR6 0 Posted December 11, 2003 I forgot to mention wishbone bushes too....replace them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dr_mat 0 Posted December 11, 2003 To be fair, Kev, the roads I'm driving on are mostly rutted. I do live in Reading after all. ;) (I'm not going to start a rant about taxes right now though..) Let's not forget that your tracking will be drifting slightly aswell if the ball joint is moving. I had my Cavalier for 3 years, actually. Great cheap car. Fantastically comfortable, even if the handling was awful. But yeah, the front wheels were just not connected to the ground, I'm sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites