g60bv 0 Posted March 18, 2004 i was chasing my mate in his impresa round the gatwick straight the other night,(from stand still he eats me, but from 60 to 120 we are even 8) , he runs 280bhp, i'm close to 240.) and he get flames out during gear change, no flamer kit, just natural flames, and it looks sweet 8) :lol: :D , i want it, surely theres a way, i using a stage 5 sns chip, any ideas???[/b] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim 2 Posted March 18, 2004 I dont get this fascination with flames... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VR6 0 Posted March 18, 2004 Another useful thread about flames :roll: http://the-corrado.net/.archive/forum/viewtopic. ... highlight= Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bobbywhacker 0 Posted March 18, 2004 sod flames, u wanna get the true rally glowing red hot exhaust tip!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tempest 0 Posted March 18, 2004 Running a catalytic converter? Then all that unburnt fuel won't do any good to it ... :roll: Sorry to be a spoil-fun ... Tempest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henny 0 Posted March 19, 2004 Flames? but that means you're not running with an optimised fuel map so are down on power! ;) :roll: Flames = rich running /rich on over-run... Sod that... I'd rather know that my car is set up properly and won't run lean or flame and know that both my engine and exhaust/bumper will survive a decent thrashing then to have a momentary fireworks display that I'm never likely to see anyway... Get a rolling road setup with a custom map, and enjoy the fact that you're safely squeezing all the horses outta your engine... 8) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andycowuk 0 Posted March 19, 2004 Flames? but that means you're not running with an optimised fuel map so are down on power! Flames = rich running /rich on over-run... Not on scooby yes on g60...... his car will be designed to do that.....its anti lag feuling.....thats what makes rally cars splutter so much the ecu dumps fuel in and on the exhaust stroke ignites it...so that rather than the expanding air forcing the piston down.....it forces the turbo round so it stays on good boost.....super charged cars dont need this obviously! Edit - Thought I would stop trying to tell you that anything could possibly go into the cylinder on the exhaust stroke....although I guess u all knew what I ment Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henny 0 Posted March 19, 2004 Flames? but that means you're not running with an optimised fuel map so are down on power! Flames = rich running /rich on over-run... Not on scooby yes on g60...... his car will be designed to do that.....its anti lag feuling.....thats what makes rally cars splutter so much the ecu dumps fuel in on the exhaust stroke and ignites it...so that rather than the expanding air forcing the piston down.....it forces the turbo round so it stays on good boost.....super charged cars dont need this obviously! Ah, that makes sense... I never knew that about Turbo'd cars... quite a clever trick really... 8) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 19, 2004 I never knew that either, very clever :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy 0 Posted March 19, 2004 seen this very system in action on a rally program on men & motors last week, great idea if I ever have a turbo car I'll be getting some of that action :D Sandy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g60bv 0 Posted March 19, 2004 ok ok :( so it cant really be done, oh well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted March 19, 2004 That is true of the Rally cars but not the road going Scoobs. The flames from road going scoobs are more likely the cause of an over-rich chip rather than forced anti-lag fuelling. ALF would not get through an MOT. K Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andycowuk 0 Posted March 19, 2004 Facts.... i dont know scoobies i am not an mot tester i have never seen a mot tester rev the tits out of a car to se if it flames - ALF is only used under certain throttle and engine speed conditions! Are you saying that scooby wrx does not have ALF built in to std ecu and/or remapped chip? If you are then clearly I am wrong!! :lol: :lol: :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bobbywhacker 0 Posted March 19, 2004 remember reading something about rally cars having really aggressive maps and always having the throttle at least slightly open hence their high idle speeds One thing this doesn't quite explain tho.. the Group 'n' non turbo cars still pop n fart flames, and obviously they must be tuned to an optimal performance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scruffydubbers 0 Posted March 19, 2004 ok ok :( so it cant really be done, oh well. it can be done, dont know how i ve a friend with a mk2 g60 which pops flames on demand, its putting out about 190 at the wheels with quite a high tune. not sure of the exact set-up dont listen to ppl who say there is no point, they are right about overfueling etc but if you want your car to pop flame thats up to you 8) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VR6 0 Posted March 19, 2004 Buy a Nova and a flamer kit and save both money, and the decent image of the Corrado. Just IMHO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majik 0 Posted March 19, 2004 he runs 280bhp, i'm close to 240 whats have you done to your car to run 240? (apart from the +20 bhp stickers of course...joke!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted March 19, 2004 Are you saying that scooby wrx does not have ALF built in to std ecu and/or remapped chip? If you are then clearly I am wrong!! :lol: :lol: :lol: My friend's 2000 WRX hasn't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banana Man 0 Posted March 19, 2004 Dont the G60's have a fuel shut off system built into the wiring so unburnt fuel isn't a factor on over run? I know of several pre 91 G60's that haven't got the so called fuel shut off system and pop out nice flames on over run when they have been tuned so I cant see why this feature on the later cars cant be reversed! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scruffydubbers 0 Posted March 19, 2004 is that the little sensor fed by a pipe on the end of the fuel rail? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g60racing 0 Posted March 26, 2004 My Golf G60 flames when shifting while canning it.. I thought all G60s did this.. I know it kills you cat as mine is rattling nicely :? I know DubWhizz's Oettinger G60 (Off http://www.Dubforce.net ) does it as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
randal 0 Posted March 26, 2004 Buy a Nova and a flamer kit and save both money, and the decent image of the Corrado. lmfao, go man go! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kongo127 0 Posted March 26, 2004 what the hell do you want flames for? To get or exaust burned? :lol: Ýou have been watching The Fast and the Furious... right? I just want power on the wheels! :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruffy 0 Posted March 26, 2004 None of the scoobies come with anti lag as standard not even the 22B.. I agree i hate flame outs my car does it in its current state of tune .. it scares the life out of me hearing it pop and bang .. i keep thinking i've been flashed by a speed cam.. it attracts the wrong sort of attention.. :roll: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
