Ice White Socks 0 Posted July 21, 2004 Morning, Just got the insurance details through from a renewal only to find I have to provide proof of fitting for a thatcham cat2 immobiliser, even though I told them I didn't have any certificates when I ordered it :mad: The good news is I have just found out it has the factory immobiliser in the key fobs :) , whilst I am pretty sure this will be classed as a cat 2 immobiliser in itself, does anyone know for definite? Cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kangaroo 0 Posted July 21, 2004 If its a rectangular key fob with two small square buttons then I believe it was, once upon a time. You can take your car along to an alarm specialist and get it checked over, if it conforms then they'll be able to write you up a new certificate. I've not done this, so I can't say whether it'll actually pass as cat2, but its definitely something you can try. Usually costs £25 or so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dazzyvr6 0 Posted July 21, 2004 for an extra £50 you could get another cat2 imobiliser fitted :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ice White Socks 0 Posted July 21, 2004 Sorry I should have made this a bit clearer. It has actually got a CAT1 alarm and immobiliser fitted- just no certificate. What it also has though- with it being a '95 car, is it has this factory fitted immobiliser where the key has a chip in it which acts on the ECU of the car. Whilst i will have to pay for a thatcham cert on the main alarm/immob if I have to, I was thinking that maybe this other second immobiliser would be thatcham 2 level on its own :?: Cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dazzyvr6 0 Posted July 21, 2004 just get the cat1 alarm certified Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kangaroo 0 Posted July 21, 2004 Yup, agree with dazzy. Get the alarm cat1 certified and it'll cover your cat2 status no probs. It shouldn't cost you any more to get the alarm checked over than the immobiliser either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ice White Socks 0 Posted July 21, 2004 OK- Appreciate the advice- luckily it only costs £12 to get the alarm accredited so its no problem. The only question I am not still clear on is, without meaning to labour the point: The corrado came fitted with an immobiliser from the factory- no key fobs or alarm brands or anything- just a tiny chip in the key which acts on the ECU somehow. AFAIK these were only fitted to the very latest VR's so most people won't know about them. Is this recognised as a cat2 immobiliser? Cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dazzyvr6 0 Posted July 21, 2004 i would think it would be classed as a cat2,but youve got a cat1 alarm so it would come under that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kangaroo 0 Posted July 21, 2004 Ah, now that's funny... When my dad went to get a spare key cut for his Mk3 Golf the guy at the shop had to stick it in a machine and copy over some 'information' to the new one. But I'm afraid I don't really know anything more about it :? Maybe this is the same thing you mention? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ice White Socks 0 Posted July 21, 2004 Maybe this is the same thing you mention? Wahey thats exactly what it is. I only knew about it yesterday when I looked in the manual :oops: , It sounds like quite a potent immobiliser though if it disables the ECU- so the combination of a CAT 1 set up, plus this secondary immobiliser (plus a disclock!) should mean that its not going anywhere off my drive in a hurry :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dazzyvr6 0 Posted July 21, 2004 Maybe this is the same thing you mention? Wahey thats exactly what it is. I only knew about it yesterday when I looked in the manual :oops: , It sounds like quite a potent immobiliser though if it disables the ECU- so the combination of a CAT 1 set up, plus this secondary immobiliser (plus a disclock!) should mean that its not going anywhere off my drive in a hurry :) if they want to take your car they will take it,no matter how many alarms/immobilisers on it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Linus Van Pelt 0 Posted July 21, 2004 AFAIK these were only fitted to the very latest VR's so most people won't know about them.Cheers :roll: It was available, standard on some (optional on others) for all VW models of that era. My old base level 1.4 Mk3 had it ;) LvP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim 2 Posted July 21, 2004 if they want to take your car they will take it,no matter how many alarms/immobilisers on it Nicking the car doesn't seem to be as much the problem these days with the advanced immobilisers.. its the bloody petty crime like smashing the window, and nicking your headunit and CD collection thats too common!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dazzyvr6 0 Posted July 21, 2004 if they want to take your car they will take it,no matter how many alarms/immobilisers on it Nicking the car doesn't seem to be as much the problem these days with the advanced immobilisers.. its the bloody petty crime like smashing the window, and nicking your headunit and CD collection thats too common!! true but the person nicking the steroe etc is just after some quick cash or a fix,but a proffesional car thief will take the car no matter what Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Linus Van Pelt 0 Posted July 21, 2004 I wouldn't mind if they just smashed the window, but they usually start with breaking the lock, attempting to prise the door and then they smash the window... :evil: [mutley]razzle, frazzle, grazzle[/mutley]* *had this done twice to the aforementioned Mk3 (which also had a CAT1 and a stoplock). Nothing to take and nothing taken on both occasions, although one muppet did leave some blood behind :twisted: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ice White Socks 0 Posted July 21, 2004 if they want to take your car they will take it,no matter how many alarms/immobilisers on it Yeah Maybe- Its lucky that the Corrado isn't as valuable as it used to be so- if someone is prepared to chew through two immobilisers and a disclock to take a car- they might as well go for a porsche or a TT instead. IMO the only real threat is someone who has a written off storm and is looking to transfer the ID - then the situation is reversed because, there are so few around- that person would do whatever it took to get it :( Nicking the car doesn't seem to be as much the problem these days with the advanced immobilisers.. its the bloody petty crime like smashing the window, and nicking your headunit and CD collection thats too common!! Yes I agree with that- I keep mine utterly bare- along with the glove box open to avoid just that kind of petty damage- It would break my heart if some scrote smashed the car up for a £50 CD player :cry: Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites