1200 bandit 10 Posted January 30, 2019 This may have been done before. How many Corrados out there that or HPI clear.Most Corrados for sale are not HPI clear.Just curious Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanl82 23 Posted January 30, 2019 I think very few will be flagged on a HPI check personally. Its usually not HPI clear due to outstanding finance. The fact that the vast majority are now sold privately means that they should be. Of course its always wise to do a check prior to purchase, and when I bought mine I got a 3 car check as I was looking at a few. Mine was the first I saw though and is clear though so I offered the 2 checks to forum members at the time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fendervg 32 Posted January 31, 2019 Why would there be any finance or HP agreements outstanding on a 25+ year old car? At most a back loan, but would that show up under HPI? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanl82 23 Posted January 31, 2019 Thats what I was trying to say! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_Matt_ 32 Posted February 1, 2019 Mine was HPI clear when I bought it last year for finance (expected) and CAT markings. Only warning it had was about a prior previous plate being registered to the Corrado now on a car with finance attached to it (volvo v60). Interesting to see as those with personal plates will find their plate comes up against old cars it was registered to. Cat D (or the new Cat N as they are now called) is meaningless to me on a 10 year+ car so I would have bought one if it was marked as such anyway. My Corrado has had a blow over and minor rust repairs which are more extensive repairs than an insurance company would categorize it for. I will be having it properly sprayed in the future too as I hate the masking between window seals and new paint - looks gash up close! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1200 bandit 10 Posted February 1, 2019 Was interested how many Corrados are out there which have never been damage.My Corrado is HPI clear and looking at the corrado has never been damage Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted February 1, 2019 The large majority would be cat accident free as insurance companies would rather write them off due to a lack of body parts and because of valuation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dox 23 Posted February 1, 2019 The large majority would be cat accident free as insurance companies would rather write them off due to a lack of body parts and because of valuation. If they write them off that's how they get categorised in the fist place Cat A, fire or flood damage etc = crush only Cat B, heavily damaged = break only Cat C (now Cat S), damaged estimated to costs more to repair than pre accident value Cat D (now Cat N), damaged estimated to be around 70% to 80% of the pre accident damage Above is a guide only, different companies have different values for Cat C / D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted February 1, 2019 Yeah but I imagine most end up in a breakers as worth more in parts if its a damaged one therefore no longer on the road. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_Matt_ 32 Posted February 1, 2019 If the claim goes through insurance they will get categorized. You do get the option to buy it back for a small fee but it will still have it's marker. I think a lot of the Corrado's will have had paint but not necessarily due to accident damage. More likely rust repair or a refresh. Mine has had paint but it's straight structurally (as far as can be told and has been professionally inspected twice). I just wish one of the prior owners hadn't opted for a cheap blow over (or I'd paid more attention to it on buying) as I'm going to have to save for a proper job. I guess it was a sign of the times as the car wasn't worth much a few years ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dox 23 Posted February 1, 2019 There have been lots of nice cars broken on this forum (and elsewhere) only for there parts to be sold on to help rebuild rough or damaged cars. There are lots who prefer a project over a fully sorted car and that still makes them worth more in parts than they sell for complete. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanl82 23 Posted February 2, 2019 I think they are at the point where that isn't quite as true now. The really rough ones will be broken, simply because they are so bad or difficult to sell. Good ones are seldom being broken anymore, though top spec ones are being stripped slightly to recoup certain costs. (Shrick, Recaros sold separately etc). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1200 bandit 10 Posted February 2, 2019 Have seen a few Corrados broken because can not sell/has a cat c/d against the car. Which is good if you require parts.bad news because a corrado gone and few less about.How many are left out in GB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted February 2, 2019 (edited) Have seen a few Corrados broken because can not sell/has a cat c/d against the car. Which is good if you require parts.bad news because a corrado gone and few less about.How many are left out in GB Good question below is a link to a website called how many cars left. its linked to the DVLA and will tell you what is sorn and taxed in the uk of each brand of vehicle. I do think the Corrado is now at the turning point that in the next 5 years where the only ones left will be the cherished ones and will enter the true status of a modern classic. I also have an R129 SL that is at this stage now to. However the classic car market is not doing that great at the moment but I own my motors as a bit of a hobby more then anything and messing around in the engine bay of course. From what I can see there is 901 VR6 on the road and 1118 that are sorn , each year there is an average of a 100 extra VR6 getting sorn so a 100 less on the road each year. I imagine alot of the sorn ones will be rust buckets, catastrophic engine failures, eventually broken or absolutley modified to oblivion and wrecked. There is 30 million cars in the Uk so 902 is not a lot of vrs. https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/ Edited February 2, 2019 by Keyo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
delfinis38 1 Posted February 3, 2019 [quote=Keyo;1218884 I imagine alot of the sorn ones will be rust buckets, catastrophic engine failures https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/ Yes sounds like mine.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) It is difficult for some owners as you can have a bad run of major faulures and just end up cutting your losses. My Rados last owner had a spray job four years ago, in the last couple of years Heater matrix . timing chains and a new radiator and was also fitted with a Shrick VGI and black leather interior and sunroof + spoiler working perfectly so I thought it was a good honest car to spend some money on. At the end of the renovation including body work as the rear arches are starting to blister !, complete new supension and all bushes and mounts on car, new catalitc and Milltek Catcback, new sump , oil cooler, tank straps. discs pads and backing plates . 5 or 6 sensors and plenty of other bits and bobs, my outlay with purchase will be up to 8k and more I imagine and that is MK4 R32 territory. Lucky for me Im a sucker for the Corrado box design . Just popped on some splitrim anniversary BBS wheels for her yesterday and tyres would of rather original silver but came with gunmetal centers still like them though happy with the look. [ATTACH=CONFIG]95888[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]95891[/ATTACH] Edited February 3, 2019 by Keyo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_Matt_ 32 Posted February 3, 2019 Keyo - sounds like my journey too. Starting to need deep pockets to keep it going, I tell myself it's just to get it through this 25 year old refresh and then it should pain free motoring (ha). The gutting thing about resprays, if they go wrong, is that they are expensive and if not done right they start to blister/fail again sooner than expected but usually a lot longer than any warranty period would cover. That would be enough to push me over the edge too if I had paid out. I need to find somewhere to have mine resprayed and have this at the back of my mind. Not a job for a few years though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanl82 23 Posted February 3, 2019 I think you're wrong about the SORN cars currently. I bet half of those are SORN at the moment because they are already cherished cars, so have been taken off the road for the winter. Check again in 6 months and I expect there to be far more on the road than laid up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted February 3, 2019 Well most of the ones I see off the road Sean in the UK are rotting on a driveway , however yes there are some owners that will Sorn it over the winter but personally I wouldnt be arsed to sorn a vehicle for 6 months for that small savings of money Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) Keyo - sounds like my journey too. Starting to need deep pockets to keep it going, I tell myself it's just to get it through this 25 year old refresh and then it should pain free motoring (ha). The gutting thing about resprays, if they go wrong, is that they are expensive and if not done right they start to blister/fail again sooner than expected but usually a lot longer than any warranty period would cover. That would be enough to push me over the edge too if I had paid out. I need to find somewhere to have mine resprayed and have this at the back of my mind. Not a job for a few years though. Yeah you need the right guy to do the job for sure, Ive taken mine to a specialist and he said the spray job was actually really professional and all good. When I first saw the car it had solid mud under the arches the lad lived in flats and didnt really look after the car to be honest and got a few other dinks and dongs from mutiparking at the flats. The refresh is good as you can get it to a point that your happy with the overall standard of the car and afterwards just repair something when it happens, also if selling you have good documentation as evidence you have been a good custodian of the car. Edited February 3, 2019 by Keyo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_Matt_ 32 Posted February 3, 2019 I probably wouldn’t bother with a SORN either but if I had quite a collection of cars and knew some wouldn’t be used for winter I would then. I can see me going that way in the future. I do use mine in the winter on nice days, always clean it afterwards, inc spray underneath. It’s also protected with a dinitrol treatment so I don’t feel too guilty. I could easily not use it though as it’s invariably always in bits and hence why I can see it being off the road in the winter - yesterday I did the oil (in the snow), took off the TB and ISV for a clean and took out the steering wheel and gearknob for a refurb in the evenings. I think I have a small leak on the rad too. Will probably remove the front end and tidy up the slam panel if the rad needs repacing so it will be in bits again! Always something to keep on top of 😂 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted February 3, 2019 You can look at the website and it shows each quater what is sorn and there is no major difference in number of vehicles sorn in the winter and miles from half Sean. I think its good for a car to breath after storing cars, car covers etc and the lack of use because all the crap you have to do to get them out just for a drive. Also there are some really nice sunny days in the winter and enjoy a drive out. I use aqa wax and keep the car clean and never take it out in around salty roads, i aslo have under wax oil. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanl82 23 Posted February 3, 2019 Well most of the ones I see off the road Sean in the UK are rotting on a driveway , however yes there are some owners that will Sorn it over the winter but personally I wouldnt be arsed to sorn a vehicle for 6 months for that small savings of money Its not about saving money on tax, its the fact that as I said, they are true enthusiast owned and therefore cherished. They are under cover, or in a garage out of the rain and off salted roads for the winter months in order to preserve them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1200 bandit 10 Posted February 3, 2019 A decent looking corrado getting scrapped on Facebook .looks very clean and good condition. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
delfinis38 1 Posted February 3, 2019 Its not about saving money on tax, its the fact that as I said, they are true enthusiast owned and therefore cherished. They are under cover, or in a garage out of the rain and off salted roads for the winter months in order to preserve them. sounds like mine since the year 2000... I do service it and spend money on it..... another years laid up insurance paid.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites