Rear side arches

[Keyo 47]

Hi All,

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[Keyo 47]

Just

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[ger040 3]

jesus keyo vw certainly know how to charge for some panels !

 

not a bit of wonder why so many corrados were written off after minor prangs

 

how bad is the rust i suppose you will not know until you start

 

cant see how mk2 panel pieces would fit as the lines are totally different

 

how about rust free panel cuts

[Keyo 47]

Hi Geri,

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[Keyo 47]

Here is

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[vw rule 19]

Hello mate this is a real dilemma as all the Corrado panels are genuine only, we're unable to purchase any pattern panels because none were ever made only genuine,

which is a kick in the balls :brickwall:

 

Virtually everything or most things for the MK1 & MK2 Golf are available panel wise, as they were mass-produced cars, whereas our Corrado's never quite reached one million.

 

The MK2 Golf rear arches are a lot different compared to our Corrado's, it might be possible to fabricate them to fit, but it would take some man hours to do that.

Plus the Corrado rear arches are double skinned, so possibly the inner skin panel might have rusted too ?

 

Also I think the new front wings and rear wing panels for the Corrado at Classic Parts, are the early type one's from 1989 to 1992, so yes they will fit perfectly as they're a genuine item but they are not wide as the VR6 one's, there's at least 10mm difference between early & late wings front/rear.

 

Si

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[Dox 23]

Shell cuts are the way forward, unless you can find someone with the skills to hand form the sections

[vw rule 19]

My Corrado has rust issues on the rear panel, outer sill lip that joins to rear wheel arch both sides, front right outer sill at base of A-piller, and the fuel flap area but the inner section up inside the wheel arch.

 

I made my own repair section for the rear outer sill that joins to arch, basically looking at the rear wheel arch the front lower section that has the 90 degree lip, that kicks down and under by 45 degree towards the rear axle beam. It's about 4" long and is the rear water run off from the sill, the N/S/R I've done.

This took me ages to get the correct curve and shape by hammering and bending it in the vice.

 

The rear panel I've also done this was just small bubbling areas, that I totally cut the rust out, and again fabricated up pieces to fit correctly.

 

The drivers A-piller the base of it, this I've cut all the rust out and made a piece to fit, then sprayed loads of wax oil up behind it in the sill box section.

 

The fuel flap area I had to bite the bullet and purchase the inner skin panel, which is roughly £150

From this panel I've already drilled and filed the two square holes to retain the plastic fixing clips, for the fuel flap locking motor. Then will cut out a section close to fuel flap, and do the same with the old rusty inner wheel arch, and weld it in carefully as I don't want too much heat, as it could distort the outer wheel arch panel.

Plus I've got a new support bracket that the fuel filler neck bolts to.

 

Also I've fabricated a MK2 Golf battery tray to fit my Corrado.

 

To spend £1100 on just two panels and this is even before any work has started on it yet, is a nightmare :shocked!:

 

See if the body shop your possibly going to use can fabricate a repair panel section from a sheet of metal, a good panel beater / sprayer should be able to do that, it could cost £1000 for both sides, but might be a cheaper option than spending £1100 on two rear wings that are early spec one's, which would need fabricating to look like VR6 one's.

 

Your other option is to try and find a Corrado that is being sold for spares, and see if you can get the rear arches cut out, but then you've got the risk of those being rusty also ?

 

Si

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[vw rule 19]

Ideally it would be great if VW Heritage could produce repair panel sections for our Corrado's, like what they've done for the MK1 / MK2 Golfs.

 

We need front wing lower repair panels.

 

Rear wheel arch repair panel.

 

Rear outer sill rear section.

 

Fuel filler repair panel section.

 

 

I know what they'll say though,

that there isn't enough of a demand for those, or it'll cost too much to produce them.

 

We might have to help our selves and chip in together financially, and get some repair panel sections made.

 

Look at the MGB owners club,

for years and years they weren't able to get many parts including body panels, but they all worked together and now stock their own parts at the MGB owners club shop.

 

Si

[Keyo 47]

hhhh

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[vw rule 19]

I thought they made changes to the rear arches to match to later type front wings, but looks like no changes were ever made to rear arches over the Corrado's 7 year production life.

 

Just found this old thread from 2017 look at post 9 by YANDARDS he clearly states no changes were made to rear arches.

 

Link below:

http://the-corrado.net/showthread.php?99521-Early-and-Late-Model-Front-Wings

 

Si

[Keyo 47]

I thought they made changes to the rear arches to match to later type front wings, but looks like no changes were ever made to rear arches over the Corrado's 7 year production life.

 

Just found this old thread from 2017 look at post 9 by YANDARDS he clearly states no changes were made to rear arches.

 

Link below:

http://the-corrado.net/showthread.php?99521-Early-and-Late-Model-Front-Wings

 

Si

 

 

Cheers Si,

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[fendervg 33]

Rear arches always stayed the same over the production run = according to ETKA the inner rear panel changed at the early/late chassis# break.

 

Yeah those classic panels are not cheap, but considering you get the whole rear quarter, it's not that bad - one problem will be removing and refitting the rear windows as well.

[vw rule 19]

Cheers Si,

 

A bit of progress today with the specialist fabricator, I just got off the phone to him and he said that I can drop her off next week and he will have her for a few weeks and not to worry as it is pretty much bread and butter work which I guess it is to him as been in the game 40 years.

 

Sounds like your in good hands,

especially as you say he's done body repairs for 40 years.

 

Si

[fendervg 33]

Yeah, hope it works out - I think with car restoration, the rule is that you can repair anything if you have enough money and time as long as the core chassis parts are not rotten through.

 

The problem is that a lot of the car resto shows make it look easy and straightforward but don't really go into the cost, labour and skill required to do it properly.

[Keyo 47]

Rear arches always stayed the same over the production run = according to ETKA the inner rear

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[fendervg 33]

As far as I know the seals are attached to the glass and the whole window unit is bonded in to the panel aperture - they can be cut out very carefully, but I would imagine that they would only really fit back into to the original panel as there will be some residue left.

[Keyo 47]

As far as I

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[ger040 3]

the seals are attached to the rear windows - i had mine removed by a windscreen fitter for a repaint

he had them out pretty quickly with various sharp tools and cheese wire

[ger040 3]

the seals are attached to the rear windows - i had mine removed by a windscreen fitter for a repaint

he had them out pretty quickly with various sharp tools and cheese wire

[Keyo 47]

the seals are attached to the rear windows - i had mine removed by a windscreen fitter for a repaint

he had them out pretty quickly with various sharp tools and cheese wire

 

Thanks

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[vw rule 19]

Keyo I've cut out the small piece I need from the brand new O/S/R inner wing panel I purchased ages ago, basically I just needed the top left corner section of the fuel filler flap area, the rest of the panel including the wheel arch area I haven't touched, so if you need this or your body shop guys needs it, let me know and I'll give you first refusal of it.

 

New it cost me £150 or £159

Make me an offer if you need it.

 

Si

[Keyo 47]

Keyo I've cut out the small piece I need from the brand new O/S/R inner wing panel I purchased ages ago, basically I just needed the top left corner section of the fuel filler flap area, the rest of the panel including the wheel arch area I haven't touched, so if you need this or your body shop guys needs it, let me know and I'll give you first refusal of it.

 

New it cost me £150 or £159

Make me an offer if you need it.

 

Si

 

Thanks for the offer Si,

 

Cheers.

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[vw rule 19]

Thanks for the offer Si, I'll keep that in mind and let my bofy worker know its available if required.

 

Cheers.

 

No worries

 

Si

[Keyo 47]

Update on the car.

 

I have booked it in next Thursday to the body shop to sort out the Arches, just wasn't happy with all the great work that has been done to the car and felt like I needed to finish the job off to give the car justice, man this car has cost a pretty penny and costing in the four figures at the body shop. :bonk: