Jump to content

Vince@Stealth

Members
  • Content Count

    110
  • Joined

Posts posted by Vince@Stealth


  1. Vince

     

    It just gets better and better. A turbo'd VR but now with traction control as well!

     

    Yep, you best start a new thread up all about that, think you'll have a line up of customers for that one. These cars are going to be incredible even comparing them to modern motors. Mind you, we'll all be spending Porsche money by the time we finish! Haha.

     

    Brilliant work as ever, keep on inspiring us.

     

     

    As soon as I get a chance I will get this on my car, I will keep you all posted.


  2. from what I've heard vince say so far stage 2 would need little difference apart from stronger engine internals, as i understood it the turbo in this kit is capable of those levels with just higher levels of boost

     

     

    Correct... :D

     

    Over the years that I have been tuning cars there is one thing that happens time and time again.

     

    Scenario > In comes customer and says I want an engine conversion... lets use a 1.8T as an example maybe in a MK2 or Corrado..

    We say yes no problem, we do the work, customer pays and leaves with 280bhp, nice, smiles all round.

    6 months later same guy comes back and says I want more power, no problem I say but you will need New Turbo, New Manifold, New Downpipe, New Boost Pipes, New Intake and the list goes on.

    We wanted our turbo kit to be unchanged in either stage 1 or stage 2 setup so If our customer came back for more power there was no money (or very very little) wasted in what he had already spent. 15 or 16psi boost will see 440-450bhp on our turbo but we strongly reccomend you go for a fully built forged engine. If you look and one of the dyno graphs posted earlier you will see a MK2 VR6 T that makes 448bbhp, this engine / turbo has 16psi, uses head spacer and ARP Headbolts and Conrod Bolts and has been for about a year or so, it is as strong now as it was when I first mapped it.

     

    Now the way I look at it is, you the customers are the boss, within reason we can tune your engine to meet the power you want.

    We can only advise on what we think is best, my reccomendations are below (some may say conservative?)

     

    Stage 1: Head spacer + ARP Head Bolts (inc in stg 1 kit) 360bhp

     

    Stage 1 Plus: Head Spacer ARP Head Bolts + ARP Conrod bolts 11-12psi. 400bhp

     

    Stage 2: Full engine build with forged rods and pistons 400bhp upwards.


  3. looks like an amazing piece of kit! i would love to get that done! especially since i've just come into a bit of cash to splash on the car... i have more than enough for it... the only problem is, i love going round corners fast too much to stick a turbo in! I WILL kill myself (which isn't a desaster, killing the car would be!).

     

    Nice one Vince! I need to pop into stealth within the next couple of months anyway to get some bits on the car sorted... would love to see the VRT in all it's glory when i come!

     

    Kris

     

    Traction on the cold damp wintery roads is a big problem, yes 360bhp is alot of power but this is the lower end of what this Turbo kit can do.

    About 8 or 9 years ago I put a racelogic traction control system on a VR6 SC Golf. It was brilliant, comes as standard with launch control too.

    I think I will have a play with one of these kits in the near future. Modern day power deserves modern day electronics.

    VAG fit it to nearly all of their current production models, it does make a big big difference more so than any LSD out there.

    The best diff in the world won't stop you lighting up both tyres in a straight line, Traction control will! Possibly cheaper as well?

     

    Check out this link for info

    http://www.racelogic.co.uk/?show=Tracti ... on_Control

     

     

    Kris

    you are welcome anytime pop over and have a visit, we can sort the bits on your car and you can check out the VRT


  4.  

     

    Stealth's Turbo conversion still uses the stock 3" MAF by the way. I believe you can tell the ECU not to throw it's toys out if it sees 5V from the MAF signal when it's not expecting to see it.

     

    Slight Correction

     

    If you have older Corrado / Golf with hotwire MAF then stage 1 360bhp kits will retain this.

    For stage 2 kits I'm working on a new MAF.

     

    For Later Corrado / Golfs OBD1 and OBD2 with Hotfilm MAF's you will automatically get a free upgrade to 4" MAF Tube, this MAF tube will also be suitable for stage 2.


  5. hi vince looks very inpressive stuff, i was just wondering if you have a supply and remap price for the kit for thoes who want to put it in on there own?

     

    Hi Perksy

     

    At the moment all the kits will be fitted in our workshop, 2 reasons for this.

     

    Firstly it's early days, we just want to ensure all installs fit perfectly, if there are any problems then we can overcome /correct them in our workshop. This may not be so easy for a DIY fitter?

    Secondly, hopefully you will have noticed that our fitted price is very good? Trust me when I tell you that if we were to count up all the hours it takes to fit the kit + the cost of the bits it would come to quite a bit more than £4400. So the deal is good.

    Therefore that leaves me with a bit of a dilemma, yes sure the DIY kit will be cheaper but at the moment costing the kit this way is my problem.

     

    As things progress this may change but at the moment I can't give you any dates or prices.

     

    I hope you understand?

     

    Vince


  6. I've driven both setups quite regularly (on different days though) and thought it is hard to tell the difference too.

    Maybe track conditions would see the 288's fade sooner? It's hard to say...

    Good quality pads and good brake fluid can make all the difference...

    Four pots are great but can give a long pedal that does not inspire confidence even though the braking effort is very good.


  7. [quote

     

    The main reason I've spent so much is due to bad luck more than anything. If you remember, I lost a 'built' engine almost immediately after it was started due to bore scratching and then not long after that was sorted, I lost a turbo from something getting sucked through the filter (which is why I no longer use cotton gauze filters!!)

     

    I'm also a fussy bastard and tend to buy the brand names too :D

     

     

    For someone who has had so much bad luck I never seen anyone as determined and focused to carry on and get his car just right.

    Hats off to ya Kev :clap:

     

    The install Kev has done on his car is superb, so good infact that a lot of professional companies out there including ourselves would be proud to put our/their name to it. Good Job Kev!

     

    As for being a fussy bastard, yeah I will go along with that but why not, the passion between men and motors will never die.

    That's why we are all here isn't it??


  8. Oh Vince, what have you gone and done?

    I believe you'll be hearing from me soon. You remember the VF charger you've spent so long fine tuning for me, did you save the box, I'll need it when I sell it to help pay for a turbo! :D

     

    Hiya Greg

     

    Did I save the your SC box? No sorry mate I didn't :(

     

    But you can keep the box that the Turbo comes out of :lol:


  9. Wow, those plots are a lot closer than I thought they would be. Very impressed at how smooth the torque curve is on your VRT vince, do you think that's down to the use of the standard manifold?

     

    Thank You for your positive comment.

     

    There are possibly many factors here and yes the stock manifold could be one of them.

     

    Vince


  10. Wow, those plots are a lot closer than I thought they would be. Very impressed at how smooth the torque curve is on your VRT vince, do you think that's down to the use of the standard manifold?

     

    Thank You for your positive comment.

     

    There are possibly many factors here and yes the stock manifold could be one of them.

     

    Vince


  11. Stealth Corrado Turbo (Blue)

    vs

    Jons Corrrado Turbo (Purple).... This car is OBD2, short runner, customers own DIY Install and Stealth Remap.

    In my opinion this turbo is slightly too small just about peaks at 15psi but can't sustain it.

    Spools very fast and possibly into gearbox breaking territory??

    I had some fun with a camcorder while remapping this one

     

    2.8l 24v Climatronic system.pdfStealth vs Jon S Power.jpg[/attachment:3uw3bv1i]

     

    Stealth vs Jon S Torque.jpg[/attachment:3uw3bv1i]


  12. Stealth Corrado Turbo (Blue)

    vs

    Jons Corrrado Turbo (Purple).... This car is OBD2, short runner, customers own DIY Install and Stealth Remap.

    In my opinion this turbo is slightly too small just about peaks at 15psi but can't sustain it.

    Spools very fast and possibly into gearbox breaking territory??

    I had some fun with a camcorder while remapping this one

     

    2.8l 24v Climatronic system.pdfStealth vs Jon S Power.jpg[/attachment:3uw3bv1i]

     

    Stealth vs Jon S Torque.jpg[/attachment:3uw3bv1i]


  13. Is there any chance of seeing it up against a similar rotrexed VR? This was going to be the route I was going for. Now after seeing this it may of changed my mind towards going turbo!

     

     

    Stealth Turbo 9psi Blue

    Rotrex 18psi Green

     

    Corrado with Rotrex has SP263 Cams and Short Runner......We fiited all this for our customer then remapped it.

     

     

    Worth mentioning here that the Rev limiter on our Corrado is stock, ie not upped

     

    2.8l 24v Climatronic system.pdfStealth vs Rotrex Power.jpg[/attachment:3ejbyach]

     

    Stealth vs Rotrex Torque.jpg[/attachment:3ejbyach]


  14. Is there any chance of seeing it up against a similar rotrexed VR? This was going to be the route I was going for. Now after seeing this it may of changed my mind towards going turbo!

     

     

    Stealth Turbo 9psi Blue

    Rotrex 18psi Green

     

    Corrado with Rotrex has SP263 Cams and Short Runner......We fiited all this for our customer then remapped it.

     

     

    Worth mentioning here that the Rev limiter on our Corrado is stock, ie not upped

     

    2.8l 24v Climatronic system.pdfStealth vs Rotrex Power.jpg[/attachment:3ejbyach]

     

    Stealth vs Rotrex Torque.jpg[/attachment:3ejbyach]


  15. OK this one is our Corrado Turbo 9psi vs Golf MK2 VR6 Turbo OBD1 (Hot Film MAF), 15Psi Boost, Short Runner Intake.

    The MK2 has the pretty much the same turbo as ours except a 0.82 Exhaust Housing....(ours is 0.68 Hot)

    I only Tuned this car for the owner as fitted all the turbo kit himself .

     

    Funnily enough we are fitting a turbo kit this week in a MK3 VR6 OBD2 with the same Turbo that is in that MK2.

    I'll Let you know how it turns out.

     

    2.8l 24v Climatronic system.pdfStealth vs 0.82 Hot - Power.jpeg[/attachment:17pf0u0d]

     

    Stealth vs 0.82 Hot - Torque.jpeg[/attachment:17pf0u0d]

×
×
  • Create New...