morpheus20170 0 Posted February 21, 2006 Can people please advise me on what they know/think to Best performance mod for 2.0 16v L reg please. Thanks very much, Paul Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iow_corrado_g60 0 Posted February 21, 2006 sorry first reply read it wrong listen to scarlett she knows about 16v's Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scarlett 0 Posted February 21, 2006 KR inlet cam! Should be the first mod on any 2.0 valver owner's list, and anyone who doesn't have one is daft!!! 15bhp or so for only £20-25 for the cam... ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve_16v 0 Posted February 21, 2006 There's a 16v tuning guide in the Wiki, like scarlett says though the KR cam will give you the most bang for your buck. (would I be right in thinking you should change the tappets, cam chain and rocker gasket at the same time though?) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve_16v 0 Posted February 21, 2006 here it is Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morpheus20170 0 Posted February 21, 2006 I have been told by TSR that if you replace the cams that it effects the immisions and it won't pass the MOT without lots of time and money spent. Please clear this up and is it worth changing the head to a TSR Pack A 16v head? What about the lupo GTI wipers, any good, been told not? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ben16v 0 Posted February 21, 2006 What about the lupo GTI wipers, any good, been told not? probably the best/most useful mod that can be done Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve_16v 0 Posted February 21, 2006 What about the lupo GTI wipers, any good, been told not? probably the best/most useful mod that can be done Everyone on here raves about the Lupo wipers but I've just got standard arms with Bosch blades (drivers side has a spoiler) and never had any problems whatsoever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve_16v 0 Posted February 21, 2006 I have been told by TSR that if you replace the cams that it effects the immisions and it won't pass the MOT without lots of time and money spent. Please clear this up and is it worth changing the head to a TSR Pack A 16v head? Not sure about the emissions but do a search for TSR, you'll find their reputation has been pretty bad since Tim Stiles left, and the Pack A head they do is apparantly a rip off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ben16v 0 Posted February 21, 2006 Everyone on here raves about the Lupo wipers but I've just got standard arms with Bosch blades (drivers side has a spoiler) and never had any problems whatsoever. your lucky then!!! :lol: if you get a chance go in someones car fitted with them in the rain then come back and tell me your not impressed! i alwys thought mine were OK! i think you replace the exhaust cam on 2.0l with the inlet of the kr?? is that correct? whats the score with fitting the inlet cam to the KR 1.8 engine?? do you get the same results?? ben Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve_16v 0 Posted February 21, 2006 your lucky then!!! if you get a chance go in someones car fitted with them in the rain then come back and tell me your not impressed! i alwys thought mine were OK! admittedly I did bend the arms slightly to put more pressure on the blades :wink: ... I'm sure the lupo wipers are really good but I'm not changing mine when they already work perfectly well. whats the score with fitting the inlet cam to the KR 1.8 engine?? do you get the same results?? The kr inlet cam is from the 1.8 so changing it will do absolutely nothing, you can change the cams in a 1.8 but I've never looked into it since i have the 2.0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morpheus20170 0 Posted February 21, 2006 So, what are we saying about these cams then, change which one or both? I've been told both but now I'm confused, ahhhhh, lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve_16v 0 Posted February 21, 2006 So, what are we saying about these cams then, change which one or both? I've been told both but now I'm confused, ahhhhh, lol change the 2.0 inlet cam for the 1.8 inlet cam Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
corradophil 3 Posted February 21, 2006 change the 2.0 inlet cam for the 1.8 inlet cam Correct! I have been told by TSR that if you replace the cams that it effects the immisions and it won't pass the MOT without lots of time and money spent. Mine has a KR inlet cam and goes straight through the emmissions test on the MOT. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roger Blassberg 0 Posted February 21, 2006 Is there a similar improvement to had from a 2.0 litre ABF engine if the KR inlet cam is put in ? I can't sacrifice low revs torque though as we are talking about a B4 Passat Estate. Best wishes RB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
corradophil 3 Posted February 21, 2006 Roger, I'm not sure but I think the ABF inlet is more similar to the KR one i.e. not so much improvement. But I would do some research because my memory is not to good these days :? Have a look Here for lots of info about 2.0 16v engines. Beware the Club GTI sight is very S :sleeping: L :sleeping: O :sleeping: W :sleeping: at the moment! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gradeAfailure 0 Posted February 21, 2006 Like Phil says, change the 9A (2.0 engine) inlet cam for the KR (1.8 engine) inlet cam as it has higher lift (opens the valves further) and longer duration (opens the valves for longer) than the 9A one... The exhaust cams are the same, so no point swapping them over. flusted runs a re-profiled exhaust cam as his inlet cam, which gives even higher lift and longer duration than a standard KR inlet cam, but he's running quite a few other mods too... Both scarlett and davecash have KR inlet cams in otherwise standard engines, both are fine on emissions, and both are putting out just under 160bhp... Hope that clears it up! :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ben16v 0 Posted February 21, 2006 is there any cams to put INTO the 1.8 KR to get an improvement?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gradeAfailure 0 Posted February 21, 2006 You can get Schrick cams for the 1.8 - PM randal as he's doing/done this to his... Alternatively, PM flusted about the re-profiled exhaust cams as inlet cams in the 1.8... :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ben16v 0 Posted February 21, 2006 re-profiled exhaust cams as inlet cams in the 1.8.. ah thats where i was getting confused... cheers!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roger Blassberg 0 Posted February 21, 2006 Phil, thanks for the link. It seems as though I would be wasting effort to go to the KR cam as there is very little difference. Best wishes RB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flusted 0 Posted February 21, 2006 Abf cams are best left in an abf as they suit the longer stroke of the engine. kr inlet cam in 2l is the best and cheapest mod and you will definatly notice the difference. Think about it,the 2l puts out 136bhp the 1.8 puts out 139bhp,only differences are the inlet cam and the cat. The 16v tuning guide in the wiki isnt up to date,click the link in my sig Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Neil- 0 Posted February 22, 2006 how long from start to finish would it take to change the inlet cam? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flusted 0 Posted February 22, 2006 I can do it in approx 2hours if not quicker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
h100vw 0 Posted February 22, 2006 http://cgi.ebay.de/TUNING-CHIP-Golf-3-G ... dZViewItem How about one of these RB. Almost cheap enough to throw away if it doesn't do anything. Gavin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites