flusted 0 Posted June 27, 2006 Can someone tell me the correct proccedure for bleeding my brakes and clutch? Ive had my front calipers off and the engine out so will the rears need bleeding? Do i bleed the clutch first? I dont have abs Hoping to do it tommorrow Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henny 0 Posted June 27, 2006 As you don't have ABS it's dead easy... Brakes- Rear right first, then rear left, then front left, and finally front right on the brakes (working on longest pipe run first to shortest pipe run last) Rears may not need doing if you've only messed with the fronts, depends on how much fluid you lost doing it - personally, I'd take the opportunity to do a complete fluid change to DOT5.1 so you can safely know that it's been done recently... 8) If you do do the rears, try not to jack the car up else the bias valve will stop most of the pressure getting to the rear brakes meaning that it'll take ages to bleed 'em through... :| Do the clutch after doing the brakes. You'll need two people to do the clutch as someone will have to push and pull the clutch pedal while the other person opens and closes the bleed nipple as a self bleeder won't work on the clutch system for some odd reason.... NEVER LET THE SYSTEM RUN COMPLETELY OUT OF FLUID - it won't damage anything, it's just an utter pig to bleed the system through if you do! :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supercharged 2 Posted June 27, 2006 Do the clutch after doing the brakes. You'll need two people to do the clutch as someone will have to push and pull the clutch pedal while the other person opens and closes the bleed nipple as a self bleeder won't work on the clutch system for some odd reason.... I used an Eezi-Bleed kit, worked a treat on both the G60 and mk4 TDi engine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trig 0 Posted June 28, 2006 Bled my system yesterday (with ABS), one word... Nightmare. And it's still not quite there... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taggart 0 Posted June 28, 2006 We were fine after using a Gunsons, changed all the hoses and put DOT5.1 in, no probs after. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trig 0 Posted June 28, 2006 What's a gunsons? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taggart 0 Posted June 28, 2006 Gunsons eezi-bleed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy 0 Posted June 28, 2006 Did my system with ABS the other week with an eazibleed, no major problems, bleeding the master cylinder is what sorted my pedal out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flusted 0 Posted June 28, 2006 Thanks for the advice Henny and others,Got it done today! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wilkes 0 Posted June 28, 2006 whats the difference with abs then ? is it a different procedure ,ive got to do this soon ,hope you dont mind me asking flusted Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flusted 0 Posted June 29, 2006 I cant answer that as never bled abs.Think its cos of the abs valves or something Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henny 0 Posted June 29, 2006 with ABS you need to have the ignition switched on and pray a lot that you don't get any air bubbles into the pump else it's an utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter pig to bleed through... I forgot to add in that the brake master cylinder should be bled at the very end after the clutch is done... :oops: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trig 0 Posted June 29, 2006 I might have go air in mine I reckon. I'm going to leave it a few days and try again. Have read a couple of threads where folks have found their pedal magically firming up after a few days... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy 0 Posted June 29, 2006 I bled my ABS system with the ignition off, I think its only the American ones that need the ignition on, hence why it says ignition on in the Bentley Manual. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taggart 0 Posted June 29, 2006 I bled mine with the ignition off too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supercharged 2 Posted June 29, 2006 Yep it is US spec with the valve block and MC in one that need the ignition on, our ABS systems should really only be pressure bled, any air goes into the pump and vagcom is needed to sort out with over 200 presses of the brake pedal! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henny 0 Posted June 29, 2006 ah, so that also applies to all NON RHD corrados then as well as the Golf G60s which have the same brake system... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poll250 0 Posted March 31, 2007 To bleed the brakes at the master cylinder, do you have to press the brake pedal down in the same way as you press the clutch when bleeding at the slave cylinder? The Master is located under the tube beneath the MAF and throttle body isnt it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonedef 9 Posted April 2, 2007 To bleed the brakes at the master cylinder, do you have to press the brake pedal down in the same way as you press the clutch when bleeding at the slave cylinder? The Master is located under the tube beneath the MAF and throttle body isnt it? Bleeding the master cylinder is just the same as bleeding at all the other nipples, you just need a smaller spanner, 6mm IIRC. It's easier if you remove the plastic pipe between the MAF and the throttle body first as it gives you more access. Not quite sure why everyone has so many problems bleeding the brakes, I did all four wheels, the ABS pump and the master cylinder on my own with the car on axle stands. I started with a completely empty system as I'd had all the calipers off for painting and it took about 1 1/2 hours tops. Only thing to look out for is putting a G clamp across the rear axle bias valve to allow full flow to the rear cylinders. Plus if you have no assistant you'll need an eazi-bleed. I've never tried pressure bleeding as I don't have the kit but then never had need of it either. The theory about having the ignition on and pumping the pedal loads is a myth caused by the fact we have no UK manual to refer to, the Bentley manual was for US brakes which were totally different from ours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites