big ben 10 Posted June 23, 2009 i have been putting together a list for my rebuild i have planned, but not only does it seem to get bigger and more expensive everyday, i have noticed how much more it is for parts from the stealers... have got prices from vw for a lot of parts, i really need advice on where to buy some of these from, for cheaper, but keeping the quality as i only want to do this once... my list is massive, i want to change as much as possible to new parts... i will list the prices from vw!! x2 timing chains £44.23 each x2 chain tensioners £28.13 each slide rail £4.06 slide rail £10.59 tensioner £42.13 four seasons tuning in the states does a kit for $80, is it the same?? all this included?? x7 head bolts £32.06 x10 head bolts £47.20 x3 head bolts £19.74 can i get a kit somewhere with all bots cheaper?? head gasket £32.06 rocker cover gasket £54.43 valve guides £236.40 front crankshaft seal £6.27 rear main oil seal £34.73 oil sump £70.09 sump gasket £32.33 sump plug £1.43 sump washer £0.48 coolant thermostat £20.31 seal for above £2.84 piston ring set (x6) £247.02 oil cooler £80.42 fuel filter £10.56 oil filter £12.37 x12 injector 'o' rings £36.98 water pump £79.40 ingnition lead set £110.64 x6 spark plugs £56.30 Lamda probe £110.91 cam position sensor £46.08 oil temp sensor £16.07 coolant temp sensor £29.79 ribbed belt £34.45 ribbed belt tensioner £84.24 x12 valve stem seals £42.92 x12 cam followers £231.36 x6 intake valves £137.22 x12 inner spring valves £47.47 x12 outer valve springs £74.38 x24 collets £20.15 x12 spring disc £47.47 x8 conrod bolts £124.80 x2 thrust bearings £19.32 x12 conrod bearings £65.41 flywheel £137.69 etc etc etc sorry for the long list, theres loads more, i just need help finding some of this cheaper for obvious reasons.... i want to rebuild as much as possible... my engine has 127,000 miles, i basically want a new standard VR engine in it, is there any parts i should no way be thinking of replacing??? there is loads more things like mounts and that but i wont list them as i have made this post mahoosive already... thanks for any advice!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted June 23, 2009 Not changing the pistons then? Not sure how tired yours currently is but if spark plugs 1 and 6 get oily over time, budget for a rebore / pistons. I don't like putting new rings onto old pistons and bores personally, unless the cylinders are in exceptional condition, but it's up to you how far you take the rebuild obviously :D You seem to like your 12V engine, but if it were me, I wouldn't bother rebuilding it. I would drop in a 2.8 24V which can be had for £600 with ECU etc. It's a far better engine and doesn't suffer with stretched / snapped chains like the R32 does. More power and torque, smoother and lasts longer 8) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markrtw 0 Posted June 23, 2009 A new std VR6 engine will cost a lot - you could redo the head, chains & clutch for about 800 (I just did) or if you want a whole new engine then you can have one for £2000 for Vege (I think thats their name) who do excellent quality reconditioned engines (1 of the forum's users members mentioned it in one of the active topics today). If you are doing rings etc then I guess you will be reboring it etc (oversize rings/pistons?) and the cost will be vast (over the £2000 and all your labour on top). Or will you get a 2.8 and rebore it to 2.9? Things like the whole head gasket set (Victor Reinze) and head bolt set and the actual chains can be bought far more cost effectively from GSF. Tensioners from VW and remember to user the mk4 golf top tensioner! Food for thought? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_leon_ 0 Posted June 23, 2009 a lot of those parts are vastly overpriced - the sump, rocker gasket being 2 parts that you can get for almost a tenth of the price from parts suppliers like gsf and euro car parts. any motors or critical parts i would get from vag, anything else thats simple i would look to save on. if you are keeping the 12v i would seriously consider what the chap above has mentioned - getting a vege built engine - will save you a lot of hassle/cost - bare in mind it comes without the bolt-on ancillaries - and at a cost of ~£1750, 12 months warranty and delivered on a palette for £40. Certainly would save you going through a trauma getting the rebuild done. C2 offer plug and play looms - not sure if they will offer one for Corrado 12->24v, but its all doable for a price... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
big ben 10 Posted June 23, 2009 i forgot pistons actually... few things i forgot!! i am a 12V whore really haha, but havent drove a 24V rado so maybe thats why... even so i think i want a mint 12V!! i dont actually need a rebuild, just want one, respray the engine bay, engine block etc and just have it mint :D what are these brand new engines like?? are they the same engines or slightly different?? seems a cheaper option if they are the same... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bruny 0 Posted June 23, 2009 I had a nightmare of a time having mine rebuilt by a so called 'specialist'. It will have cost somewhere in the region of 2500, way more if you count extra bits. If you have the skill to do the work yourself you could save maybe 800 or so. but it would be so much easier buying a Vege rebuild, with warranty. I was in contact with them when it looked like my engine was f+++++d [dont ask :bad-words: ]and they seemed very helpful and efficient. The dealer prices didnt seem to be much more than OE, although I was probably ripped off by my rebuilder, either way I do not recommend Specialised Automotives in Worksop Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philmo 0 Posted June 23, 2009 A drive in a Golf or Bora 4 Motion would convert you - much smoother & torquier with 24v, even with 100cc less swept vol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fla 9 Posted June 23, 2009 depending on how long you can wait my 12V may be up for sale as soon as i can get a 24V.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_leon_ 0 Posted June 23, 2009 depending on how long you can wait my 12V may be up for sale as soon as i can get a 24V.... :D eager to get started ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coullstar 0 Posted June 24, 2009 i am a 12V whore really haha, but havent drove a 24V rado so maybe thats why... even so i think i want a mint 12V!! i dont actually need a rebuild, just want one, respray the engine bay, engine block etc and just have it mint :D Ive done the whole 24v thing and its a great update on the car however if your car is running fine I would just leave it until there are signs of potential problems. Drive the car and enjoy it, once you start messing about with the car off the road then you can sometimes loose the enjoyment. Mine has been off the road for a month and I'll be honest if it wasnt sitting there when I got back from work I wouldnt be too bothered at the moment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
big ben 10 Posted June 24, 2009 Not changing the pistons then? Not sure how tired yours currently is but if spark plugs 1 and 6 get oily over time, budget for a rebore / pistons. I don't like putting new rings onto old pistons and bores personally, unless the cylinders are in exceptional condition, but it's up to you how far you take the rebuild obviously :D You seem to like your 12V engine, but if it were me, I wouldn't bother rebuilding it. I would drop in a 2.8 24V which can be had for £600 with ECU etc. It's a far better engine and doesn't suffer with stretched / snapped chains like the R32 does. More power and torque, smoother and lasts longer 8) im seriously thinking 24V is way to go now, and its you fault mr haywire!! should be enough power for me... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John-M 0 Posted June 24, 2009 I was in need of a VR6 rebuild a couple of years ago, but was tempted by a 2.8 24V engine that became available. I have no regrets - the 24V is very smooth and flexible. Have a read through the Definitive 24V thread - you'll be convinced. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
big ben 10 Posted June 24, 2009 I was in need of a VR6 rebuild a couple of years ago, but was tempted by a 2.8 24V engine that became available. I have no regrets - the 24V is very smooth and flexible. Have a read through the Definitive 24V thread - you'll be convinced. i think i am on the way to getting one!! this forum is terrible haha!! first was going to supercharge it, now im on about an engine conversion, crazy :cuckoo: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
