harryc 0 Posted August 9, 2010 Hey everyone, just bought a 16 row mocal cooler from another member but need a fitting kit. Where abouts have people mounted their's, what with, and with what length of piping? Seen some good looking braided lines on ebay but they come in a variety of lengths; http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_nkw=moca ... m270.l1313 Planning on picking up a thermostatic sandwich plate as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dukest 0 Posted August 9, 2010 I think it's worth including a pic and the dimensions since it's not the usual size of cooler that people fit to a VR from those that I've seen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harryc 0 Posted August 10, 2010 Cheers, as per tandino's for sale thread; http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y76/ta ... 010258.jpg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tandino 0 Posted August 10, 2010 Cheers, as per tandino's for sale thread; http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y76/ta ... 010258.jpg Harry, run it in conjunction with the OEM heat exchanger so that they supplement each other, i think you can either mount it in the wheelarch or otherwise mount it up in front of the radiator, you will need approx 1.5m of hose for each line at a guess. Its also a good idea to remove the stock heat exchanger and give it a good clean out with a pressure washer, the amount if crud that builds up inside is unreal, also it might be a good idea to buy the two little hoses from VW that feed the heat exchanger as the will be soft with age and heat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harryc 0 Posted August 22, 2010 I had a thermostatic sandwhich plate on my mk2, is it worth going with this again ? Costs £20 more on the 35 pound sale price. Also is the alloy cap necessary which is mentioned in the auction? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VENTO-PASSAT-BORA ... arParts_SM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JMC 0 Posted August 24, 2010 I can only speak from a G60 owners point of view, but a thermostatic plate is an essential item for these. Otherwise the oil will take ages to get warm enough to be the right viscosity, especially with a 16 row cooler. Not sure what the alloy cap is they are talking about. As for mounting points, mines down in front of the passenger wheel arch, with holes drilled in the wheel arch line to prevent stagnant air build up. Alot of VR owners mount theirs in front of the rad though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aide 0 Posted August 24, 2010 /\ yep as above get the thermo plate for sure, make sure you mount it the correct way round too - don't ask me which way that is because i've forgotten. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jamiehamy 0 Posted August 26, 2010 Just to add to this, i def recommend braided hoses rather than rubber. The rubber on my lower hose had been rubbing on a radiator cowl unseen and eventually rubber a hole in it, (just at the border with Spain!) Rather unpleasant seeing blue smoke out the back and oil pour out the engine 1700miles from home! Fortunately stopped immediately and after being taken to a garage, I was able to strip the front end and get in and fix :) So, braided hoses will help prevent this and also double check the hose routing to make sure nothing is rubbing :) Best mod tothe car tho, it's never been above 100C Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimDoc 0 Posted August 27, 2010 I'm running a 16 row Mocal, mounted infront of the rad, with most of it behind the bumper level. Connected with braided hoses and a normal non thermostatic sandwich plate with the old heat exchanger removed. Gets up to temp nice and quickly as the airflow is slightly reduced by it being behind the bumper, but at higher speeds keeps the temp around 98-100. Only ever gets up to 106 around town on a hot day. Hand to cut a hole in the rad mount to get the pipes through tho. T Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VAG-hag 0 Posted August 27, 2010 some info on where I located mine here. see P4 viewtopic.php?f=11&t=70247&start=45 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
corradog60stage4 0 Posted August 27, 2010 here is where i installed my 16 row mocal oil cooler, plenty of incoming air to cool that bad boy down when I push it to the limits. I'm not a fan of installing items that need air flow behind the bumper, I still have the big intercooler i want to install but it looks like I will need to cut half of the rebar to make it fit and function. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harryc 0 Posted August 30, 2010 Thanks for the comments, think im going to go with the behind the grill option to give it some good flow. The oil cooler seems alot smaller compared to what a lot of you guys are running. Will a 115mm cooler provide sufficient cooling? (Saw 116 degrees the other day sitting on the motorway with my new oil). I spose as its not a tracked car this should be fine with decent air flow, what do you guys think? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites