delfinis38 1 Posted October 10, 2018 Any body recommend a torpan sump pan ???? are they any good, do they have a decent material thickness…. looking to change my sump gasket and thinking of changing the pan at the same time.... Any other recommendations... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fendervg 32 Posted October 10, 2018 Topran? They seem to be a cheap Chinese copy manufacturer, so would not be too sure about quality and fit. Have had some bad experiences with their cooling system parts. Are they still available from VW? To be hones, unless the old one is damaged, they are easy to clean and paint - it's just cosmetic after all and will get dirty again fairly quickly unless you have a cover underneath. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Bowen 1 Posted October 10, 2018 I think i bought one and fitted it to mine, seemed to be the same quality as an original. Just checked and it was this one i bought https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161566373453?ViewItem=&item=161566373453 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
delfinis38 1 Posted October 10, 2018 yup my spelling mistake.... mines a weeee bent at the moment and leaking...… think I hit a hump back bridge at silly speed when I was young.... I've picked a second-hand one up which is a vw OEM part.... just not too sure how good the part is and where its been.... it looks straight and the thread looks okay.... just don't want to do the job twice if I can buy a quality part.... don't think VW stock them these day...… saying that does a ford VR6 pan fit ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bauhaus 3 Posted October 10, 2018 Topran? They seem to be a cheap Chinese copy manufacturer, so would not be too sure about quality and fit. Have had some bad experiences with their cooling system parts. Are they still available from VW? To be hones, unless the old one is damaged, they are easy to clean and paint - it's just cosmetic after all and will get dirty again fairly quickly unless you have a cover underneath. Not really a cheap Chinese Company, Topran is a trade mark of Hans Pries GMBH of Germany but they do source replacement parts from all over the world, a bit like what VW themselves do really. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fendervg 32 Posted October 10, 2018 It's not the company - I accept that the parent company is German - it is where and more importantly to what spec the parts are made that is important. If you look at the price point Topran sells at, it falls into the budget/economy replacement part bracket and is sold as such by many parts suppliers and motor factors. All I can speak for are the components I saw and handled, and these were nowhere near OEM or VW quality in terms of materials and fit, but this may not be the case for all parts, and the sump pan may be perfectly good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Bowen 1 Posted October 10, 2018 I couldn't see much difference in them. I think it depends on the part whether i choose genuine parts or not. As its just a shaped bit of metal and also uses a gasket with lots of bolts, i went with the topran. Bought a cheap power steering pump and ended up replacing it with a proper vw one after not many miles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fendervg 32 Posted October 10, 2018 Fair point on the type of part in question - I guess not much can go wrong with a pressed piece of metal. Make sure to get new bolts when replacing and it's also worth considering a magnetic sump plug if you don't have one to catch some of the shrapnel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simeon 0 Posted October 11, 2018 I've used a Topran sump on a 4cyl engine in the past, no problems at all with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fendervg 32 Posted October 11, 2018 Sounds like some positive recommendations on the sumps - so I take back what I said in relation to Topran in general - but would still not touch their cooling system parts. :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robrado974 1 Posted October 11, 2018 I can’t remember which one I bought . It may have come from Heritage or Ebay ?. As said I don’t think there’s anything in it with a part like this . I would recommend getting the rubber/cork type washer for the sump plug , mine came with a metal one which did not seal well at all .i nipped it up but I still had a drip , so I changed it . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Bowen 1 Posted October 11, 2018 That new engine i bought, (Meant to have come from VW), had no gasket on the sump, just quite a thick layer of white sealant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
delfinis38 1 Posted October 11, 2018 Does the later gasket need sealant ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dox 23 Posted October 11, 2018 I have a 4motion MK4 sump ready to use when needed, being cast alloy the flange doesn't distort like a steel sump when you tighten the bolts up into the gasket. Put a straight edge across the row of bolt holes on your old or replacement steel sump too see how distorted they are and the likelihood of seepage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
delfinis38 1 Posted October 11, 2018 Done exactly that at lunch... put a steel rule over the mating surface that gasket sits on and tried to see light through the gap... all seems good here. It has a graze on the flat area by the sump bolton the outer skin assume it's not too thin material here. Thanks dox Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robrado974 1 Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) Does the later gasket need sealant ? Later cars had longer bolts and a rubber seal I believe. Mine is a 92, so I have a the thin paper type gasket so I put a smear around the surface first . Edited October 12, 2018 by robrado974 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites