Popeye775 16 Posted June 10, 2020 (edited) So I changed my o2 sensor, and now the car wont turn on. I was having weird burble issues and the o2 sensor took all of those away. Here is what I posted to the Vortex to try to get it solved. Any help would be greatly appreciated. This seems to be a never ending issue right now. I got a brand new ignition coil. The ohm reading was oddly high (4300 ohm for terminal 4 to 15). Not sure if this could still be the problem, but I went ahead and tested that the ignition coil and the hall sender are getting power. To which both of them are getting the necessary power to them. I checked that they were getting fuel by unplugging the ignition coil and turning the car over in order to get the injectors to spray. Things that I have tried so far:New ignition coilChecked the ohm reading to the spark plug wires (all were 6 ohm except the one going to the coil; that one was around 2.2 ohm)Checked the spark plugsChecked for sparkTriple checked the timingChecked for fuel pressure and that the injectors are firingTested the battery to make sure it was goodTested the wiring going to the ignition coil and to the hall senderChecked the distributor cap for any damageI am running out of ideas for things to test that it could be. Anybody know how I can test the hall sender without the VW special tool? Possibly ignition switch? Alternator? Voltage regulator? I am very confused and very lost. The only thing to have changed from the time it ran, to the time that it didn't is the o2 sensor. Even after I changed the o2, the car started up and ran. It ran better than it had in a couple months. Then out of the blue the next day, it just wont turn on. Edited June 10, 2020 by Popeye775 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Popeye775 16 Posted June 10, 2020 Here is the car trying to start Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dox 23 Posted June 10, 2020 (edited) Lack of engine movement and no cam belt cover on, has the timing jumped? What RPM is displayed when cranking? Edited June 10, 2020 by Dox Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Popeye775 16 Posted June 10, 2020 The RPM bounces. Usually getting up to around 200-500 when trying to crank. I haven't paid too much attention to the RPM when trying to start. You think the timing belt jumped a tooth? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Popeye775 16 Posted June 10, 2020 14 minutes ago, Dox said: Lack of engine movement and no cam belt cover on, has the timing jumped? What RPM is displayed when cranking? It is really weird because the day before, the car was running good. Then I go to move it the next day and it ends up stalling and then not turning back on Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dox 23 Posted June 10, 2020 (edited) Every non start the AA and RAC go to were running fine the previous time the car was used. The engine appears not to move around on its mounts when cranked suggesting a compression issue, there's also an odd chuffing sound? Edited June 10, 2020 by Dox Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Popeye775 16 Posted June 11, 2020 Every non start the AA and RAC go to were running fine the previous time the car was used. The engine appears not to move around on its mounts when cranked suggesting a compression issue, there's also an odd chuffing sound?The chuffing sound it coming out of the back of the exhaust. The compression was checked not even a month ago and the compression numbers came back fine. Should I double check compression? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Popeye775 16 Posted June 11, 2020 Every non start the AA and RAC go to were running fine the previous time the car was used. The engine appears not to move around on its mounts when cranked suggesting a compression issue, there's also an odd chuffing sound?Also I apologize but the AA and RAC? What do these two terms stand for? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dox 23 Posted June 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Popeye775 said: Also I apologize but the AA and RAC? What do these two terms stand for? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk They are UK breakdown services Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Popeye775 16 Posted June 11, 2020 They are UK breakdown servicesOh oh gotcha. So if the compression is fine, where would you go from here? I have a new ECU relay on the way, I can get a new distributor if need be, but I don’t know what else this could be. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dox 23 Posted June 11, 2020 You say rpms are displayed so ecu ecu is powered and hall sensor in the dizzy is working? if compression is ok I’d check ignition timing next Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Popeye775 16 Posted June 11, 2020 You say rpms are displayed so ecu ecu is powered and hall sensor in the dizzy is working? if compression is ok I’d check ignition timing next I will give it a shot. I thought I had the ignition timing set at TDC and tried 6 degrees BTDC but I could be wrong. Either way, will give it a shot Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dox 23 Posted June 11, 2020 Strange cuffing noise points towards something being out? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Popeye775 16 Posted June 11, 2020 Strange cuffing noise points towards something being out?I will for sure give it a look! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Popeye775 16 Posted June 11, 2020 Strange cuffing noise points towards something being out?Hi sir, compression checked today and it’s not looking promising. Last month the compression numbers were 120130120130Today they were90909095Both were done on cold motors. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dox 23 Posted June 11, 2020 Sounds like its jumped teeth, retime and check again Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Popeye775 16 Posted June 11, 2020 Sounds like its jumped teeth, retime and check againI will give that a look this weekend Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dox 23 Posted June 11, 2020 I seem to remember a G60 owner with similar issues reported that the charger had seized? Something else that would prevent the cylinders from filling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Popeye775 16 Posted June 11, 2020 I seem to remember a G60 owner with similar issues reported that the charger had seized? Something else that would prevent the cylinders from fillingI do have a spare charger so I could throw that on and check that as wellSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Popeye775 16 Posted June 13, 2020 On 6/11/2020 at 12:04 PM, Dox said: Sounds like its jumped teeth, retime and check again Update sir, I set the timing to TDC and checked all of the gears. To which I found the intermediate shaft and the crank pulley timing marks no longer in line with each other. I have uploaded photos showing what I mean. In order to fix this, do I just need to rotate the crank pulley to line up with the arrow on the timing belt cover, and then rotate the intermediate shaft to line up with the mark on the crank pulley? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cressa 44 Posted June 13, 2020 I suppose that answers your compression and crap starting. Do you have the Bentley Manual? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Popeye775 16 Posted June 13, 2020 I suppose that answers your compression and crap starting. Do you have the Bentley Manual?Yes I do. I just cracked it open to find how to align the pulleysSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Popeye775 16 Posted June 13, 2020 On 6/11/2020 at 12:15 PM, Dox said: I seem to remember a G60 owner with similar issues reported that the charger had seized? Something else that would prevent the cylinders from filling update: the charger was not seized, the timing was way out of wack, and the car starts again. Here is a sound clip of how it sounds. Tell me if anything sounds off, because that weird burbling noise was there before and that is the noise I am trying to get rid of. Car while on Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Popeye775 16 Posted June 17, 2020 Update: the only thing to fix now is the misfire. I test drove it today after timing it with a timing light and it has an intermittent misfire under 2k rpm. I am going to change out the plugs again. THINGS DONE:Checked plug wiresChecked the fuel injectors are getting fuelChecked coilThe car has a chip and adjustable pressure regulator that is at 3.5 barMy question is could it be getting too much fuel? Should I try putting my stock pressure regulator back on and see what happens? It is running a 68mm supercharger pulley and stage 3 BBM chip. The cam is going in after this misfire is figured out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites