alplatt 0 Posted September 7, 2005 I've just had the car on the rolling road and it's showing that it's running at 115bhp at 6K revs. Now i assume thats not normal as the bhp should be at around 136? Can anyone confirmt that this is correct. If so, what could be causing the power loss? Cheers Al Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bix 0 Posted September 7, 2005 Would prolly help if you said what the car is, but yes a 2.0 16v c should be 136bhp! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alplatt 0 Posted September 7, 2005 Would prolly help if you said what the car is, but yes a 2.0 16v c should be 136bhp! Doh! Sorry, yes it is a 2.0 16v. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrishill 0 Posted September 7, 2005 as should a 18 16v, timing retarded maybe? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sciroccotune 0 Posted September 7, 2005 whp? or fly wheel... remember that vw figs are fly.... does it need a service? and timing as above? rich mixture?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alplatt 0 Posted September 7, 2005 whp? or fly wheel... remember that vw figs are fly.... does it need a service? and timing as above? rich mixture?? The BHP was at the wheels. I don't know much about this so any help or explanation would be appreciated. It was serviced with new sparks etc just before the rolling road. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrishill 0 Posted September 7, 2005 ah, if thats at the wheels it probably about right, you loose a few BHP as the power gets transmitted through the gearbox etc down to the wheels, i dont think 20bhp is too bad for transmission losses is it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alplatt 0 Posted September 7, 2005 Ah, now i understand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alplatt 0 Posted September 7, 2005 Ah, now i understand. Many Thanks Al :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olly elworthy 0 Posted September 7, 2005 still seems low power, get it tuned thats 1.8 power 115 at the wheels,, with a 2 ltr you should be getting more Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
corradophil 3 Posted September 7, 2005 IIRC mine was about 120bhp at the wheels which was quoted as 162bhp at the flywheel. So yours sounds fine to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bcstudent 0 Posted September 7, 2005 I'd be happy with that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Riley 0 Posted September 7, 2005 I'd be happy with that. same. could get more with a bit of fuel and timing tweaking,then theres the kr 1800 inlet cam,not 100% sure you can use it if running a cat though? neil. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
corradophil 3 Posted September 7, 2005 could get more with a bit of fuel and timing tweaking,then theres the kr 1800 inlet cam,not 100% sure you can use it if running a cat though? I am, and have had no problems yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Campaign 0 Posted September 7, 2005 1.8 and 2.0 16v had about the same power output, 2.0 had slightly more torque. But both are quoted at 136bhp at the flywheel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Riley 0 Posted September 7, 2005 could get more with a bit of fuel and timing tweaking,then theres the kr 1800 inlet cam,not 100% sure you can use it if running a cat though? I am, and have had no problems yet. ah,cool. was just wondering about emmisions etc,i know its ok if you dont run the cat,wasnt sure on running it. 1.8 and 2.0 16v had about the same power output, 2.0 had slightly more torque. But both are quoted at 136bhp at the flywheel. ive never understood this? the 16v kr 1800 in the mk2's is quoted at 139bhp,and its the exact same setup in the rado aint it? am i missing something? i thought the 2.0 16v 9a gave less bhp because of the inlet cam,and cat. but like you say,gives more torque. neil. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
corradophil 3 Posted September 7, 2005 From what I have read, the milder inlet cam moves the power down the rev range a bit and gives cleaner emmisions, and the cat is supposed to reduce power and smell nasty. The extra capacity brings the power back to KR standards. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davidwort 0 Posted September 7, 2005 ... ive never understood this? the 16v kr 1800 in the mk2's is quoted at 139bhp,and its the exact same setup in the rado aint it? The golfs had mostly 50mm inlets on the KR and different exhaust system components, may well be that the late golf 16v's with 42mm inlets only made 136bhp, but more likely they all vary so much from car to car it's irrelevant. Not sure how they arrive at power figures but I think it's a test of a sample of units, so they may have repeated the tests when the C and passat came out and hit a slightly different figure. KR's all tend to make better than 140bhp if in good condition though, regardless of car. David. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Riley 0 Posted September 7, 2005 aye,lots of variation anyway. neil. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dinkus 10 Posted September 7, 2005 Have you tried looking under the seat? I always find stuff down there... :lol: I'll get me coat... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrbeige 0 Posted September 7, 2005 Have you tried looking under the seat? I always find stuff down there... :lol: I'll get me coat... PMSL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
