proper charger at last

[Walesy 0]

im not suggesting that people should do the same (( please read my sig ! )) ...like i said , its just an observation.

[keithmac 0]

keith did yours have some vag oil seals in it...cant help thinking they wouldnt have sourced genuine stuff, if there was cheapies to be had

 

I think mine had the cheapest possible sh1t in it to be honest, that`s if they even bothered to change the oil seals.. took some pics, I`ll have to dig them out and have a look.

 

Running a 40k charger on original sealed timing shaft bearings is asking for trouble, 15 year old grease won`t lubricate very well, if there`s any left in them. Even if you just replace the sealed bearings you`ll give it half a chance. (if they`re the correct rating of course..)

[billinjah 0]

im about to take the plunge and get a rebuild, my charger is upposed to be jabba the slut rebuilt to stage 4 so im undecided, should i go the full blend r1 or justa std rebuild? will r1 make a single bit of difference? is it worth 200 nicker more?

[Henny 0]

billinjahg60, talk to Darren, he's the man for the advice on his services and won't try and talk you into spending more than you actually need to... although he may end up tempting you by mentioning other things he can sell you... :roll: :lol:

[Riley 0]

mine was jabba stage 2'd,lasted 11k miles before the oil seals springs decided to float about inside :roll:

 

still made 14psi on a 70mm pully though.

 

which is strange actually...

 

with the charger now having been full blended with a 68mm pully,it still makes the same 14 psi.

 

all according to the mfa.

[Yandards 0]

The problem with chargers if they go wrong then they tend to self destruct. As with all second hand cars, bar a very small handful, you are unlikely to have all the service history or know how the car has been driven.

 

With an oil fed system, especially on the G60, it is critical that the correct type of oil filter is used (the VAG one has a higher pressure non return valve in it IIRC) good quality oil and changed at the correct service intervals.

 

If the service schedule is not stuck to then the wear on both the engine and the charger will occur at a faster rate than normal. Chargers have a bad reputation from a lack of proper maintenance and the use of non-OEM parts when rebuilt.

 

In the long term I would recommend a preventative maintenance policy by getting a charger rebuilt every 50k or so, depending on pulley size and driving style. It's better to splash out a few quid as oppossed to a grand for a new charger as well as the peace of mind.

 

My 2p :wink:

[goodridge 0]

I fully intend to have a go at mine myself over the winter.... I've read up loads on it, and seen a couple in bits which helps... Being in the trade I really dont want to pay someone else to do something I'm probably perfectly capable of doing myself... I really suprised there isn't a full-on DIY rebuild thread somewhere on the net which details all the ins and outs..... It is only a mechanical object after all. Might have to do one when the time comes!

[steveo29 0]

goodridge.....i fully intended to rebuild mine myself, i went to the trouble of importing a rebuild kit and got as far as opening it up

 

in the end i decided there was too much to lose if i made a simple mistake, and luckily g werks were happy to take over

 

if you price up good quality parts , theres not much in it considering you'l have a come back if someone else does it

[goodridge 0]

goodridge.....i fully intended to rebuild mine myself, i went to the trouble of importing a rebuild kit and got as far as opening it up

 

in the end i decided there was too much to lose if i made a simple mistake, and luckily g werks were happy to take over

 

if you price up good quality parts , theres not much in it considering you'l have a come back if someone else does it

 

Well how much did you pay for your kit mate? and where from? I've been a VAG techy for 4 and a half yrs now and have some mates that have had a good one and a f***ed one in bits. Its no different to having anything else mechanical apart and putting it back together......

[Tempest 0]

in the end i decided there was too much to lose if i made a simple mistake,

 

Yeah, that's what made me leave it to the experts, too, as it was and still is my only charger :roll:

 

Tempest

[W3RKD 0]

goodridge.....i fully intended to rebuild mine myself, i went to the trouble of importing a rebuild kit and got as far as opening it up

 

in the end i decided there was too much to lose if i made a simple mistake, and luckily g werks were happy to take over

 

if you price up good quality parts , theres not much in it considering you'l have a come back if someone else does it

 

Well how much did you pay for your kit mate? and where from? I've been a VAG techy for 4 and a half yrs now and have some mates that have had a good one and a f***ed one in bits. Its no different to having anything else mechanical apart and putting it back together......

 

Here's a question for you then...

 

Would you strip and rebuild the air-con pumps ??

 

I think the reason there is not a full guide on the net anywhere is because no two rebuilders use the same "step by step" ways of building them. Its like anything one person does regulary, they adapt there own method of doing somthing. As the servicing was not reconised by VAG in any schedule's there are no "techie guides" from vag. 2-3 dealers are even sending them to g-werks now as they have seen the problems unserviced chrgers can cause and the new £2000+ price of a replacment from vw.

[steveo29 0]

goodridge i got my bits from kompressor canada, and ebay.de also has stuff or bar-tek in germany

 

thing is, if id done it myself i would have maybe saved £100 or so, but when faced with a bag of bits i dont know a top quality apex strip from a cheap n nasty one..same with the bearings and oil seals. i mean you/i could do an ace job of building it , only to be let down by rubbish parts

 

hopefully darren has enough experiance and pride in his work to know whats good and whats not for our chargers .hopefully this time mine will last closer to 40k than 10k

[h100vw 0]

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=124025

 

Here's some good pictures I used when tackling my own charger. I did have a fair amount of help from Steve Pitt on that first one. I did a couple more after that which are still running sweetly. There will be only one person to blame if it goes wrong. I was prepared to go turbo if mine blew.

 

goodridge, I am just like you and Steveo29 in that I hate paying for stuff I can do myself. I split the charger on my syncro and found damage I knew I couldn't sort out. I sent the charger off.

 

They are just too expensive to go messing with. I wouldn't do another, unless I was living on the other side of the world, which I soon will be.

 

My advice is, send it off and get some extra foreigners done while you wait for it to come back. :mrgreen: That way you are not using your own money.....

 

Gavin

[Johnny Corrado 0]

im scared, my whole engine was re built by jabba just b4 i baught it!!!! :drinking: :crazyeyes: :puppydogeyes: :hic: :pale: :gag: :cuckoo: :confused4: :help:

[steveo29 0]

im scared, my whole engine was re built by jabba just b4 i baught it!!!! :drinking: :crazyeyes: :puppydogeyes: :hic: :pale: :gag: :cuckoo: :confused4: :help:

 

oh no

 

seriously guys...i wonder if trading standards or someone should be contacted about the poor work/

[olly elworthy 0]

i could probably do mine myself but that extra £100 brings you allot of piece of mind and expertise on a part that is so expensive,

hence when my rebuild is due i`ll be sending mine straight to G-werks,, :thumbleft:

[keithmac 0]

seriously guys...i wonder if trading standards or someone should be contacted about the poor work/

 

Just spreading the word about their shoddy rebuilding is good enough for me, plus you`d probably need an "expert" opinion and not many companies like to bad-mouth another for many reasons.

 

There must be at leat 5 people on here who`ve had low milage charger problems, how many more..

[g60greeny 0]

i get a sick feeling in my stomach every time i hear about how bad jabba are,i spent nearly £1000 with them in april this year,god knows how long its going to be till i'll ever get another £1000 to spend,loans are extended to the max only earning £200 a week buy the time everythings paid,not much left.i just hope i caught them on a good day,i wish i'd joined the forum before going to jabba,i only went there because i'd read good things about them in mags

[keithmac 0]

I found out after I bought a freshly rebuilt charger for £750 tinking I got a bargain. I actually expected it to fail and kept an ear out, probably what saved mine from grenading..

[steveo29 0]

i get a sick feeling in my stomach every time i hear about how bad jabba are,i spent nearly £1000 with them in april this year,god knows how long its going to be till i'll ever get another £1000 to spend,loans are extended to the max only earning £200 a week buy the time everythings paid,not much left.i just hope i caught them on a good day,i wish i'd joined the forum before going to jabba,i only went there because i'd read good things about them in mags

 

 

what did you spend the £1000 on mate??

 

im still smiling at how much better my car in going now, its made a big differance , and to think ive been missing out on all this extra power because i chose the wrong company to build my charger

 

keith ...lets keep sreading the word, goes to show how much they care , you dont see them on any forum at all

[g60greeny 0]

upto now everything seems well on the charger front,although i would like to have a drive in a car thats had the charger done by daz to the same stage as mine just to see if all is really that well

 

steveo29 i had my charger staged 4rd chip & pulley & induction kit with heatsheild they also found a couple of bits and bobs that needed doing such as new dipstick guide,oil pressure switch,new vac hose,they also said they had to repair the wiring to the lambda probe and top up my oil i think thats about it.i managed to get a bit of discount for having everything done at once,just found my reciept out and i payed exactly £908.89 so not a £1000 but still enough especially if the works not as good as i 1st thought,i think i'll have to stop reading posts that talk about jabba,didn't get much sleep last night for thinking about my charger blowing

[steveo29 0]

well all i can say is it made a big differance to my charger...the old one made 16psi at redline....but its night and day differance now, i drove out like a nutter in it last night smiling all the way

 

and for the 1st ever in that car(ive had it 5-6 yrs) i went to change from 3rd to find out it was alredy in 5th

 

those induction kits wont help power or the life of your charger.you be best with the orig air box, id ebay it and stick your old box back on if you still have it

 

same with their chip..ebay it and get a sns

 

good luck with it all..i kept thinking mine would be okay, but getting it done was the best thing ive done to that car

[g60greeny 0]

i wonder how much daz would charge to give it the once over?as anyone got some figures on how the jabba stg4 chip&pulley compare to a g-werks stg4 with sns chip 68mm pulley?

another question why would a company that claim to be a forced induction specialist recomend having the induction kit fittedwhen from what you guys are saying sounds like a bad thing for my charger?,were they simply just after taking my cash?if i clean and oil my jabba filter regular would that make a difference?anyone else running a jabba induction kit?as it caused anyones charger to pack in?sorry for all the questions but i need to know starting to worry again

[RACK 0]

G60Greeny, Mine is about the same spec as yours but with a g-werks charger. I found the difference quite noticable. If I see you round rotherham, I'll take you for a quick spin, you can also see how much better it pulls with a Golf IC.

 

Also, get rid of the Jabba Induction kit, if anything it ruins performance due to the filter getting heat soaked. The heat shield doesn't help that much, I looked into making a kit so you could mount the filter in the wing where the Carbon Canister fits, I got as far as making the brackets for it to sit on and conected it up, but due to work had to give it up, although it's a pretty simple thing to do. I thought that this would be a lot better as there would be not engine heat getting to it at all.

[g60greeny 0]

cheers rack,looks like the airbox is on its way back,think i'll keep the jabba filter and heat shield as i don't think i'll get much for it if everyone says the standard box is better