Are you really a dubber??

[vr6storm 0]

i was quoted £50+VAT for a clutch fluid reservoir(it had a hairline split),which for some reason was UR-quattro specific,anyway it worked out cheaper buying new fluid every few weeks

[speedtwelve 0]

I keep coming back to VWs over the years, interspersed with a few Jap & French coupes/sports cars/hot-hatches en-route. On the VW front I've had:

 

Scirocco GTX

Race-prepared Scirocco GT-S

Mk2 Golf GTI 8v

Mk3 Golf VR6

Corrado VR6

 

I'd always wanted a Corrado, and gave up a rather rapid MR2 Turbo to have one. If they built the Corrado VR6 today I'd have one new. Unfortunately there's been nothing from the VW stable since that's really caught my attention. I appreciate the R32s and Mk5 GTIs, but neither are a massive leap in performance or dynamics over the Rado VR. The 20VT Cupra R Leons are no slouches either, but once I come to replace my C I'm planning to go 2 seat again and higher performance, which'll mean Lotus or TVR for me.

 

The other VAG car that I've always loved was the UR Quattro, but I've never been brave enough to take the financial risk of running one. Very nearly had an '85 2.2 Coupe as my very first car years ago until the radiator blew on the test-drive...

[Guest]

I guess I'm a Coradubber. I just love everything about them. I had a Mk1 GTI Campaign for 10 years and only sold it so I could get a Corrado otherwise I'd still have it. I don't see me buying any other cars after this one and plan to keep it til I can't drive no more. I knew about the common faults before I bought it but the urge to own such a great car far outweighed any possible negatives.

[Kevin Bacon 5]

Now this is a silly thread :-)

 

Reading tonnes of horseschitt as per usual.

 

Are you a dubber? Isn't that a bit of chavvy title to have? "Enthusiast" is the more fitting and correct term and real enthusiasts don't spout off on forums and run their chosen marque down.

 

G60 and VR6 motors not very powerful? Only a person with no clue about engine design and basic engineering would say something so ridiculous.

 

And Corrado brakes and lights are rubbish, but MK1 items aren't??! :lol:

 

I've been driving all manner of VWs for 17 years and they're excellent cars, especially when you're prepared to put the work into them.

 

If you think you can jump straight into another car and have no problems at all, because a forum say they don't have any problems, then you're sadly deluded.

[Riley 0]

real enthusiasts don't spout off on forums and run their chosen marque down.

 

G60 and VR6 motors not very powerful? Only a person with no clue about engine design and basic engineering would say something so ridiculous.

 

Yes.Mr high and mighty :lol:

 

Do you want me to bullsh|t and say corrado ownership has been a joy when it hasn't?...sorry but im an honest kind of guy.And if you read properly...and understand the issues ive had then you would back off and understand where im coming from...much like the people who have pm'd me saying "Riley,cant believe you are selling after all the effort you have put in"

"Riley,such a shame that you feel how you do after the work you have done to the car"

Etc Etc...

 

And yes...imo which you wont ever change :roll: 160 horse from a 1800 charged 8v isnt superb,and neither is 190 horse from a near 3.0 vr6.

And if i didnt know anything about engine design or engineering...whoopie do...does that make me a lesser enthusiast? Who do you think you are? :lol:

 

As for the title of "dubber" that must be your age creeping in...its a widely used term,accept it.

 

And dont dare say im not a real enthusiast... Ive spent many late nights...2/3/4am working on the corrado,one time when me and the g/f were supposed to be going on a driving holiday but it broke down.

I was up at the unit until midnight last night refitting heater matrix and dashboard,what were you doing? swigging beer? or sleeping?

 

Again,if you read properly,you will see that ive done every job myself...and ive said that i really want to like the corrado,but it hasn't been the best experience.So dont have a go at me because of my own personal experience.

 

Neil.

[MK1Campaign 0]

Id say I am. Ive had

 

MK1 Golf GTI Campaign

Seat Leon Cupra R

MK2 Golf GTI 16v

 

Next car will be a VR6 Corrado which ive wanted for a long time. Im prepared to wait for the right one.

[Nuggit 0]

I guess I am... (my own cars, not ones I've sold for my business, and in no particular order)

 

2xMk1 Convertibles

1xMk1 Driver

1xMk1 1100 (still got, in bits!)

1xMk2 GTi 8v

2xTurbo Technics Mk2 8v GTi's

1xCorrado G60

1xMk3 GTi

1xMk3 VR6 (ace!)

1xMk4 Gti (not so ace)

1xCorrado 16v (new car!)

 

May have missed some.

 

Edit: Did. Polo G40.

Edit: And a Mk3 Golf 1.4

[Kevin Bacon 5]

Do you want me to bullsh|t and say corrado ownership has been a joy when it hasn't?.

 

No, but sparing the rest of us from your bullschitt would be nice though.

 

And yes...imo which you wont ever change :roll: 160 horse from a 1800 charged 8v isnt superb,and neither is 190 horse from a near 3.0 vr6.

And if i didnt know anything about engine design or engineering...whoopie do...does that make me a lesser enthusiast? Who do you think you are? :lol:

 

You're such a dork. In the context of the 80s, when these so called underpowered VW engines were designed, let's compare them to some other popular engines of the period shall we?

 

RS turbo - 1600 Turbo, 130hp.

XR3i - 1600 8V, 105hp.

XR4i - 2.9 V6, 12V - 150hp

Sierra Cosworth - 204hp, 2.0 16v Turbo.

Pug 1.6 GTI - 115hp

Pug 1.9 GTI - 130hp

Rover 3500 V8 - 150hp

 

VW 1600 8V GTI - 110hp

VW 1800 8V GTI - 112hp

VW 1800 16V - 139hp

VR6 2.9 - 190hp

G60 1800 S/C - 160hp

 

So looking at that list, you're still telling me VW engines are underpowered, within the context of their design era? Doesn't the VR6 have 40hp more than the Ford 2.9 engine? Doesn't the G60 make more than the RS turbo with less boost?

There are reasons why engines make the power they do, but I wouldn't expect you to understand that.

 

As for the title of "dubber" that must be your age creeping in...its a widely used term,accept it.

 

I understand the meaning of the word. I choose not to use it because I speak English.

 

And dont dare say im not a real enthusiast... Ive spent many late nights...2/3/4am working on the corrado,one time when me and the g/f were supposed to be going on a driving holiday but it broke down.

I was up at the unit until midnight last night refitting heater matrix and dashboard,what were you doing? swigging beer? or sleeping?

 

Obviously you're workmanship isn't up to scratch then is it? But label the Corrado as a schitt car if it makes you feel better.

 

Again,if you read properly,you will see that ive done every job myself...and ive said that i really want to like the corrado,but it hasn't been the best experience.So dont have a go at me because of my own personal experience.

 

The thread was about seeing how enthusiastic you are to VWs and you immediately launched an generalising attack on the Corrado, and you think people are having a go because they're expressing their opinions on your generalisations? Grow up.

[Nuggit 0]

Sheesh, will you two just get a room?

[StormchargedVR6 0]

Well said Kev :)

[Tifun 0]

I started off in an old Bug. It was my second car actually. I've owned 2 MK1 GTI's, a MK3 8v-T Jetta, A built Corrado, and now this Corrado which I am working on. I got rid of my last Corrado to get into an e36 M3.....which I might add was a wonderful car and handled exceptionally well, but a month later I started to miss the old C, I tried to ignore it, 6 months went by and I went crazy, I sold it and bought another Rrado and have been happy ever since, even with all the stupid repairs the money pit has brought me. I don't know how you guys would classify me. Doesn't really matter though, I know that I have a passion towards my car and all other VW's. I try to soak up every bit of info I read about any and all VW's resulting in tons of useless knowledge.

-Keith

[vr6storm 0]

 

You're such a dork. In the context of the 80s, when these so called underpowered VW engines were designed, let's compare them to some other popular engines of the period shall we?

 

RS turbo - 1600 Turbo, 130hp.

XR3i - 1600 8V, 105hp.

XR4i - 2.9 V6, 12V - 150hp

Sierra Cosworth - 204hp, 2.0 16v Turbo.

Pug 1.6 GTI - 115hp

Pug 1.9 GTI - 130hp

Rover 3500 V8 - 150hp

 

VW 1600 8V GTI - 110hp

VW 1800 8V GTI - 112hp

VW 1800 16V - 139hp

VR6 2.9 - 190hp

G60 1800 S/C - 160hp

 

So looking at that list, you're still telling me VW engines are underpowered, within the context of their design era? Doesn't the VR6 have 40hp more than the Ford 2.9 engine? Doesn't the G60 make more than the RS turbo with less boost?

There are reasons why engines make the power they do, but I wouldn't expect you to understand that.

 

.

 

to be fair on Riley tho Kev

the XR3i/RS Turbo engines were late 70's designs,and as for the Cologne lump in the XR4i,that was first fitted in the Granada back in the late 70's,and had its origins in the RS2600 back in the early 70's,and I'm sure you know the story of the Buick-sourced 3.5 V8 Rover used,thats dates back to the fifties,fair enough the VW range of engines have been on the go almost as long,but to compare the VR6 with an engine designed at least 2 decades(in the case of the Cologne V6) before is a bit unfair,let alone one 3 decades older.........however at the same time Riley doesn't seem to realise that what VW have done is made sure that their engines have the reliability with very little stress,the VW 1.8 16v for example is only just run in at near the 100k mark,whereas the same can't be said for the Ford CVH at the same miles.......also worth pointing out too is that the VR6 in the Corrado is only 21bhp shy of the 3L found in the 944S2 of near enough the same vintage,I never heard Porsche being accused of selling the customer short in that instance

[ziderapple 0]

I agree with you on all of that Kev, except the use of the term "dubber", but if we all agreed on everything it'd be a bit boring!

 

Riley to be honest I think you could of received alot more criticism than you have, coming on to a Corrado forum and slagging it right off and not expecting some abuse back is a little naive, also slagging of the G60 and VR6 engines as a true enthusiast is an odd stance to take, they weren’t solely used in C's and have received much praise over the years, plus the G60 engine is pretty much bullet proof, the only real weak link is the 'charger, still I'm not wanting to start an argument, like I said your MK1’s cool and can see you've put many an hour into that.

 

The intention of this thread was to see if my thoughts that many Corrado owners view themselves as outsiders to the general VW scene… guess not.

[CorradoVR6-Turbo 0]

yea best lock this up before the gloves come off.

[Riley 0]

Do you want me to bullsh|t and say corrado ownership has been a joy when it hasn't?.

 

No, but sparing the rest of us from your bullschitt would be nice though.

 

I wrote a big reply but i cant be bothered.

Just a few words for Kevin...

Kiss my ar$e mate.I dont take kindly to being called a bullsh|tter/liar,or having my ability questioned for no reason.

 

Ill say it again so your brain can register/process what im saying.Id speak slowly for you but its hard to convey through a keyboard...

 

1/I have expressed honest opinion from corrado ownership experience.

2/I have said i do not like the design/reliability of the corrado.

3/I have tried my absolute best to enjoy the corrado,and any time its needed anything i have done it myself.Ive put more effort into it than you have yours (do you like that? having your ability/enthusiasm questioned for no reason) and i am dissapointed that i feel this way about a vw.

 

If you dont like it,tuff sh|t mate. :?

Sorry that i will not lie and pretend that all is rosy,as it seems to be in your little corrado world.

God help anyone else who has anything bad to say about the corrado,The guy cant handle it.

 

Thats all im saying,and if you are going to call me a bullsh|tter/liar just because i dont like the corrado through my own experience...do it to my face.

 

Neil.

[TheWizardofOdds 0]

I'm Corradisti, not a 'dubber.

 

I don't have the loyalty to VW that others might(Golfs for instance, don't give me wood).

 

Why is it that anytime there's a dissagreement on this forum there is a call for the mods to 'lock it up'..it's still a forum, innit?

[W3RKD 0]

What a silly thread, This is the sort of thing that just causes upset.. We all share the same intrests regardless of which leval thats at.. I wish people just got on with enjoying the car's! Surley thats what this forums about, not about weather you are a TRUE dubber or not!

A forum should be about enhancing the joys of owning such car not to belittle others who may not be of quite the same leval of enthusiam

 

Sorry but this is the sort of thing is what annoys me about forums, im sure this conversation wouldn't come up in real life such as at a RR day or a Show.

[Walesy 0]

What a silly thread, This is the sort of thing that just causes upset.. We all share the same intrests regardless of which leval thats at.. I wish people just got on with enjoying the car's! Surley thats what this forums about, not about weather you are a TRUE dubber or not!

A forum should be about enhancing the joys of owning such car not to belittle others who may not be of quite the same leval of enthusiam

 

Sorry but this is the sort of thing is what annoys me about forums, im sure this conversation wouldn't come up in real life such as at a RR day or a Show.

 

Fair play, you took the words out of my mouth! What a load of nonsense.

[matthewb1985 0]

i agree such a pointless thread.

[skinnyman9000 0]

I cant be arsed to read all this, but for me a true dubber is someone that buys a 1.3 mk1 to rescue it from the scrapyard, then spends their weekends for the next 6 months returning it to good health.

 

I've had a mk2 golf, a mk2 polo saloon, and now my Rado.

 

But i do own an escort too, but thats a lil side project really.

[corozin 0]

Hmm...

 

**Mod Edit - Attachment removed**

[matthewb1985 0]

i think you should remove that.

Might offend some people

[Walesy 0]

Yeah, i've removed the attachment as i've been in trouble myself for a similar pic, there's not much you can post nowadays without offending someone!

 

As much as it grieves me to have to, I'm locking this now as it seems to have run it's course and is going no-where productive. It was a silly thread to begin with tbh.