Carbon Fibre Stuff - 3d scanning Updated 23/01/11

[badgerman 0]

Hi all, as the title suggests this is a bit of a feeler.

 

I have a spoiler left over from a 16v I broke over the past year. I don't see that anyone will want this part as it is not really a part that fails (correct me if I am wrong).

 

With this in mind, I was wondering if anyone would be interested in a lightweight moulded carbon fiber version?

 

If answer to question 1 is yes - what money would you want to pay for it (so I can price materials and see if it is achievable)

 

It has also been suggested (cheers davidwort!) that a slightly bigger but OEM looking design could be crafted. What are thoughts on this?

 

Mods - it this is an inappropriate place for this kind of thread feel free to move it.

Edit - changed it to spoiler cheers jim for pointing that out!!

 

Cheers,

Chris

[PhatVR6 0]

Yes, but they'd have to be the wider vr6 version, and with the arches flared losing the flat edge too. I have 2 wing already like this if you need to take molds.

 

Are you undertaking this work yourself?

[badgerman 0]

Ah, thats interesting. I wasn't aware of variation between the models.

 

Yeh, I'll probably do it myself with assistance from one of the guys from work.

[Jim 1]

I think you're talking about the spoiler badgerman and I think you're talking about the front wings Paul... I don't think there is a difference in versions on the spoiler between early and late cars! :)

[badgerman 0]

Ah, yeah. That makes sense. . .

 

So carbon wings and spoilers then!! I'll get on it.

[__Andy__ 0]

got a rough idea of how much your looking to punt these out at? i know of a few places that have made these already...

[dragon 0]

I woukd be interested in a cf spoiler too

[quicky1980 0]

would be interested in FG or CF wings, full carbon fibre bonnet and cf or fg boot. Not fussed about the spoiler as I think this is already pretty light.

 

let us know rough prices and maybe we can firm numbers of those interested, ta

[dragon green 4]

I would be interested in wings,pending price ?

[badgerman 0]

got a rough idea of how much your looking to punt these out at? i know of a few places that have made these already...

 

 

Not really, I asked my mate who does a fair bit of moulding (drift kits etc) and he said he wouldn't want to do it for less than £150. I think he's exaggerating a fair bit and probably thinks he should charge £40 an hour to do the work.

 

The reason I did this thread was to find a price and then work back to see its feasibility. It may not be possible to achieve a competitive price compared to retailer products but I have one advantage - my margin can be want I want it to be. It is how I approach my freelance work - assume my free time is worth nothing. What else would I be doing - sat on the corrado forum probably!

 

Sorry to put it back out there but there is method to my madness . . . . .

[badgerman 0]

Holy Sh**! Its all about the wings!

 

I will talk to my mate that already moulds jap bits and see what his thoughts are on the wing front.

[__Andy__ 0]

got a rough idea of how much your looking to punt these out at? i know of a few places that have made these already...

 

 

Not really, I asked my mate who does a fair bit of moulding (drift kits etc) and he said he wouldn't want to do it for less than £150. I think he's exaggerating a fair bit and probably thinks he should charge £40 an hour to do the work.

 

The reason I did this thread was to find a price and then work back to see its feasibility. It may not be possible to achieve a competitive price compared to retailer products but I have one advantage - my margin can be want I want it to be. It is how I approach my freelance work - assume my free time is worth nothing. What else would I be doing - sat on the corrado forum probably!

 

Sorry to put it back out there but there is method to my madness . . . . .

 

i understand what you are saying, at £150 id rather buy one from performance trim tbh...

[badgerman 0]

Totally agree. £150 is way out - but like I said, he's not got the same mentality as me when it comes to stuff like this.

 

So say £75? does that make it an offer too good to refuse? - we're on spoilers now peopes, I will get back to you tomorrow on carbon body panels!

[Abdul 0]

£75 for a carbon spoiler sounds good value tbh but im personally not interested unless theres some variation in design from the oem spoiler making it sexier!

[badgerman 0]

Cool, I'm a designer by trade so stuff like that is kinda my thing ;)

[Abdul 0]

Cool, I'm a designer by trade so stuff like that is kinda my thing ;)

 

I personally really want a 70mm splitter, not in carbon as it will hit the floor and i will cry but i noticed there's a group buy on Vortex for em... Sounds like a nice balance between the big chin, hit everything 90mm and the tiny 50mm lol.

[badgerman 0]

Ha ha, brilliant, we have a 3 way mis understanding!

 

OK - I originally meant a carbon spoiler (the up and downy auto-spoiler)

 

Having described it as a 'wing' I then got interest for front wings (panels)

 

Now you have the the wrong end of the carbon stick as you are thinking splitter!!

 

Pretty funny - but it shows that if I can make a carbon Corrado I will be minted.

[Abdul 0]

Ha ha, brilliant, we have a 3 way mis understanding!

 

OK - I originally meant a carbon spoiler (the up and downy auto-spoiler)

 

Having described it as a 'wing' I then got interest for front wings (panels)

 

Now you have the the wrong end of the carbon stick as you are thinking splitter!!

 

Pretty funny - but it shows that if I can make a carbon Corrado I will be minted.

 

Oh no, i know you were talking about the rear spoiler, i just thought i'd throw a custom 70mm front splitter into the mix!

[badgerman 0]

lol! Brilliant - I need to get on this carbon thing!

 

I just had a little chat then with my moulding geezer and he gave me a ball park calculation for carbon fiber front wings and came up with a figure of £300 for a pair. He wants to do a proper calculation on material usage but that is the number that came from a quick calc.

 

There is always an opportunity to do a carbon - glass mix lowering the material cost and still lightening the component.

 

What I might suggest to him is doing some tester parts to establish their comparative weight to steel panels. GRP panels are often a bit of a farce as they are often the same weight as the standard component. In the case of the drift kits this guy makes they only want a disposable skirts that are inexpensive and replaceable. I guess the good thing about this potential setup is that they can be tailored to your requirements.

[Jam.e.s 0]

Both of the ideas you guys are talking about are being done by spoonfedtuning in the states. The rear spoiler:

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.p ... Wing/page7

The front lip:

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.p ... ..../page6

[Jim 1]

If you can do a carbon rear spoiler at £75, I'll be all over one at that price please! But will be impressed if you can do them at that price...

[dragon 0]

If you can do a carbon rear spoiler at £75, I'll be all over one at that price please! But will be impressed if you can do them at that price...

Same here too :)

[8vMatt 1]

I'd be up for a spoiler at £75. Would it be an OEM design or could it be a slightly longer pronounced tip to it?

[Abdul 0]

Both of the ideas you guys are talking about are being done by spoonfedtuning in the states. The rear spoiler:

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.p ... Wing/page7

The front lip:

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.p ... ..../page6

 

Thats the front lip i was on about, i think its about $300 though, F*CK THAT!

 

I'd be up for a spoiler at £75. Would it be an OEM design or could it be a slightly longer pronounced tip to it?

 

A slightly longer pointy tip would be sexy! 8)

[badgerman 0]

As there has been a fair amount of interest I will pursue this then.

 

More info to come as i get it.