20valver 0 Posted April 3, 2003 I know any corrado is expensive to run, but which does everyone think is the cheapest to run out of these????? 100,000 mile G60 (chip,pulley,stage 4,exhaust) :D 100,000 mile VR6 (induct kit, exhaust) Costs: Fuel, services, parts, insurance and anything else....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pau1 0 Posted April 3, 2003 The G60 will always be cheaper to run. I could get 39mpg on a nice country drive in my G60, but my VR6 never goes above 25 mpg. Parts for the G60 engine will also be cheaper and insurance might be similar not too much difference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott 0 Posted April 3, 2003 The G60 will always be cheaper to run. I could get 39mpg on a nice country drive in my G60, but my VR6 never goes above 25 mpg. Parts for the G60 engine will also be cheaper and insurance might be similar not too much difference. WHAT!!!! :mad: VR6 never goes above 25mpg! - since when? I regularly see 34-35mpg on my trip comp and working it out from filling up against costs its very accurate! - even when booting it I see more than 25mpg! *:) Parts cheaper for G60 ? - I think you'll find its about the same.... Insurance might be a little higher on VR6 though! Too be honest side by side the G60 might be a little cheaper but will be marginal... VR6 will handle more miles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
too hot 0 Posted April 3, 2003 Pau1,Yeah I agree withyou on the recent run through to Star for the rolling road day my VR6 was showing 24mpg,admittedly that was fairly "spirited" :lol: :lol: driving. :mrgreen: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pau1 0 Posted April 3, 2003 VR6 never goes above 25mpg! - since when? Fair doo's. I've only had my VR6 for less than a week and only driven in for about two days round town and not really slow either. But engine part prices must be cheaper on the G60. :? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Campaign 0 Posted April 3, 2003 VR6 never goes above 25mpg! - since when? Fair doo's. I've only had my VR6 for less than a week and only driven in for about two days round town and not really slow either. But engine part prices must be cheaper on the G60. :? SOME parts might be cheaper on the G60 as some are standard 1.8 stuff, but others are special to the G60 (block, heads etc.) and so would probably work out more expensive and more difficult to get hold of. I also agree that the VR6 would probably handle the miles better, my 130k G60 was starting to sound a little tired and could probably have done with a rebuild. Although a rebuild would be probably cheaper on the G60 than a VR6. I tend to agree that the differences would be pretty marginal... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted April 3, 2003 Paul said 'his' VR6 doesn't give more than 25mpg! Mine averaged 34mpg on the way to and from Stealth (calculated the old fashioned way) with a mixture of hard and moderate driving but I know if I gave the engine death every where I went, I'd struggle to get above 25 too. Kev 94 VR6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott 0 Posted April 3, 2003 VR6 never goes above 25mpg! - since when? Fair doo's. I've only had my VR6 for less than a week and only driven in for about two days round town and not really slow either. But engine part prices must be cheaper on the G60. :? So how you finding the VR then compared to the G60?... On full chat in the VR6 you'll get around 25mpg... but once you calm down and get used to it you'll get circa 35mpg on a gentle run... I know I do on mine.... have seen 36/37mpg before but thats like granny mode and shifting up at 2k rpm! *:) LOL As said some parts are cheaper for G60 but some are specialised towards the G60 so differences will be minimal - in all fairness the only real parts most need to buy are servicing, maintenance parts - and for the VR6 I have been shocked so far as most of the stuff is very cheap... Oil Filters - £4 Oil - £14 Air Filter - £7 Brake Discs - £25 each Brake Pads - £9 a set Rear bearings - £8 each Rear Brake Discs - £21 Shocks - £35 front / £24 rear All parts are OE from GSF.... so not too bad really! - should imagine G60 is same prices roughly? I know that the VR is one or two insurance groups higher though.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott 0 Posted April 3, 2003 I will mention that I have upgraded from a 1991 Corrado 1.8 16V to my present VR6... and the cost differences are pretty minimal - even insurance isnt that much higher (extra £200).. the main difference I feel is fuel costs.... Ive noticed I have to put more fuel in it than my old one but this could also be cos we are paying 80 pence per litre now! :twisted: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
20valver 0 Posted April 3, 2003 Sounds like its a close call between the two...... thought that this comparison would get a few opinions out!! Currently got a 16v and looking at one of the above. Was sure that a G60 would suit me best, because I thought it would be cheaper to run and fill up, and obviously cheaper to insure. but if there is not that much in it then.......I guess I better see what insurance I can get on a VR and compare that to a G60.......mmmmmm decisions..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2cc 0 Posted April 3, 2003 Scott wrote Ive noticed I have to put more fuel in it than my old one could that be because its a bigger tank? LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott 0 Posted April 3, 2003 Scott wrote Ive noticed I have to put more fuel in it than my old one could that be because its a bigger tank? LOL No its cos I drive with my foot glued to the floor *:) - I meant that I have to put fuel in more often than my old one rather than quantity of fuel *;) Go for the VR6 mate! - it makes sense! - I had the same delimma as you six months ago....! *:) - I dont regret getting the VR one bit! *:) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G60 0 Posted April 3, 2003 you might also want to consider cost to upgrade.. VR6s are expensive to mod for very little gain... where as you can get very impressive output from a G60 for very little investment. chip, pulley, fpr.. you'll be close to 190hp i suspect. stage 4 charger, cam, maybe a homemade dual intake and front mount IC... i bet 220hp. i could be off... but you're not going to get near the same bang for your buck upgrading a VR6 as you will from a G60. :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
too hot 0 Posted April 3, 2003 G60, I agree with you mate I would seriously consider another G60 as I think they have more torque low down and you don`t have to rev the nuts off it to get it to shift I also think that you are right as far as tuning goes it is easier to get more power cheaper from a G60 than a VR6. :D At the recent Scottish Rolling Road day the top power for the day was 200bhp at the flywheel for a relatively low mileage Vr6 with about a £1k worth of engine mods. Standard cars were doing about 192-193bhp no problem :) The same amount of cash or less spent on a G60 would easily get you the same power but I bet it would be much faster off the mark than the VR6. 8) Decisions decisions :D :mrgreen: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G60 0 Posted April 3, 2003 ..better handling too.. lighter engine mounted behind the axle as opposed to in front. :shock: 8) my work here is done, time for lunch! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vr6storm 0 Posted April 3, 2003 right having been "mugged" :shock: by pau1 in his old g-60 i would like to put my views on this VR6 pros- :D 190-ish bhp straight out the box nice engine note/induction roar smoother/refined drive....ideal autobahn crusier still has a bit of kudo's to those in the know ABS as standard..........if its still working of course :wink: reasonable economy for engine size VR6 cons- :cry: standard suspension sits way too high....imho too front heavy makes you paranoid if the temp guage starts to rise engine parts can be a tad ott priced coil-packs prone for fcuking up big investment needed for decent performance gain group 18 ins group(19 for storm) G-60 pros- :D more power gained for relatively little expense(compared to vr6) slightly lower than vr6 suspension better balanced in standard form almost as quick as the vr6 and very little in it during day-to-day driving good B-road blaster quite rare these days better fuel economy charger not as fragile as it made out to be lower ins rating G-60 cons- :cry: but if charger goes.....if you can find a new one too.....£1k+ not as refined as the vr6 getting a bit long in the tooth too older style interior........(personal one here btw) ABS quite a rare bit of kit well thats all from the top of my head.........but it all depends on which you prefer driving in my opinion the g-60 would be marginally cheaper to run than the vr6 and just slightly cheaper to fix if it all went horribly wrong though the vr6 will always be the more in demand model.....though i reckon people in the know will go for the g-60 for the ease/cheapness of performance enhancements though whatever Corrado you own/drive etc......your driving a bit of class :wink: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FAST PHIL 0 Posted April 4, 2003 I am looking for a VR6 but have now started looking at G60's as they are much cheaper - think a good option is to pick up a G60 with a new charger on it that way you wont worry about it :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GazzaG60 0 Posted April 4, 2003 problem is these cars are old. a G60 may be cheap but chances are it needs at some point soon if not straight away to put it back to its former glory charger rebuild crank barings brakes wheel barings suspension top mounts engine mounts bushes anti roll bars/bushes sunroof fix window rattles exhaust(std one is heavy so mounts may be stretched) general service with proper plugs, leads oil, filters etc rear spoiler broke? all these mount up n what was a cheap car at 2-3k ish soon isn't if you can find a spot on example that hasn't already been snapped up. ie no rattles good running gear, charger warranty in first few months i reck on its worth 4-5k as thats what itll cost to put a reasonable one back right Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G60 0 Posted April 4, 2003 all good points guys.. vr6storm: my G60 has ABS, but its disconnected gazzaG60: that is not an inaccurate list..i hate to say. i need, or did need before i did it.. almost everything on there. the initial purchase price was about half of what an 'ok' VR6 would be around here though (it was about 40% of two G60s i saw in the ads around that time as well..expensive G60s!!)... and i knew what i was getting into.. i actually look forward to fixing things as i go. ..hey, my sunroof is fine, windows don't rattle, rear spoiler works, its tuned right up with proper parts, but everything else on there.. wouldn't hurt to have it done, but only a couple things are high priority for me... all in good time. even with those bits that are a bit tired.. still a joy to drive everytime i get my ass in the seat!! :twisted: ..if you do most of the work yourself and have a connection for a bit of a price break on parts.. you'd be surprised how cheaply you can get away with fixing things. most engine-related bits i've found can be sourced from any old 8v... and are much, much cheaper. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GazzaG60 0 Posted April 4, 2003 more of a generalisation of what could be wrong or wont be as it was when the car was new. shows how good these cars were when new as to how they still are with the problems. mine handles good but when the window is down i can hear squeeky bushes, probly dry n tired :cry: need to replace Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_leon_ 0 Posted September 19, 2006 just stumbled across this - that list is very much correct - that G60 list however just covers items that wear. it doesn't cover general stuff like tyres, wheel refurbs, paint, rubber piping, wiring - and then all the stuff you might find from prebious ownership like locks, more wiring, missing things.... to sum it up - the G60 is not a cheap car until you have cleared all these items off the list. you've then got yourself in a good position to spend money on mods... phew *tired* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G60SC_Stoney 0 Posted September 22, 2006 id say if you are going to keep it and want a safe and reliable car then go for the VR6. but if you like to tinker under the engine and mod it up go for the G60..or best of both worlds get a VR6 and charge it!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G60Dan 0 Posted September 22, 2006 My mates std VR6 use to see 35pmg+ all the time. My G60 was always 25ish? It didn't mind a drink or 2! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dr_mat 0 Posted September 22, 2006 You can't choose them for economy.. They both run on fluffy bunny rabbits and scare pensioners.. Insurance, fuel, repairs, they will all add up quickly for either car. The G60 "repair list" above is interesting, but you'll note that several of those items are Corrado-general items, so the VR6 has the same problems. VR6s, in addition, regularly require: timing chains coil packs MAF sensors engine speed sensors head rebuilds rebores aux water pumps ... and many more. But on the upside, the VR6 will hold it's value longer than the G60, because like it or not (you G60 drivers just chill out here .. ), the VR6 is the one that has attracted all the attention, and is the one that everyone wants. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vr6storm 0 Posted September 22, 2006 But on the upside, the VR6 will hold it's value longer than the G60, because like it or not (you G60 drivers just chill out here .. ), the VR6 is the one that has attracted all the attention, and is the one that everyone wants. .....................and its the Storm most of em want too :-P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites