GrahamU 6 Posted December 4, 2013 The graph above is my journey to work at about 8 in the morning travelling on A roads at 60 for most of the drive ;), this was in a Bora 1.8T with 225/40/18s I'll dig out some other data tomorrow when I'm back at work. This was logged on a day when the outside temp was 8°C, move forward a couple of weeks to a lunchtime on a hot summers day and you can up the temp by say 15° on a really hot day and pressure by 3psi before you drive on it Specs on my TPMS (IRTPTMS) 14.7mbar/bit Sensor Pressure Range – 0 – 3.631bar gauge Pressure Resolution – 14.7mbar/bit Accuracy - ±25mbar Tyre Carcass Temperature Temperature Range – -40°C – +215°C Temperature Resolution – 0.25°C/bit Accuracy (worst case) – ± 3.0°C Accuracy (best case) – ±0.5°C Internal Temperature Temperature Range – -2°C – 125°C Temperature Resolution – 0.125°C/bit Accuracy – ±0.5°C General Transmit Rate (moving) – 1Hz Operating Temperature Range – -40°C – +125° Mass – 40g RF Transmit Frequency – 433.92MHz more info here http://www.bf1systems.com/index.php?pag=products&catID=5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted December 4, 2013 Manufacturers say to check the tyres once a week but most drivers dont do that. For a person on any forum to say, you need to set your tyres at this pressure is still only a guesstimate and should not be taken as gospel. The handbooks recommend doing all manner of checks before setting off on journeys, but do people ever bother? Only the fastidious do! Tyre pressure and oil levels are also things that seldom change between services on modern cars, which breeds laziness. Agreed on the second point! I've dished out my fair share of opinions over the years, but I've come to learn that OEMs really do know better than we do! :) The pressure they specify is a compromise over many 1000s of miles of testing to maintain a good contact patch with good wear rates. Given the importance of tyres, I find the whole stretching thing baffling to be honest, but we were all young once (some of us still are, lol) and get hooked into trends. Unfortunately, meddling with tyres doesn't always give immediate results. They're not like engines that either work or they don't. It can be many days, weeks, months or years before you come a cropper from fiting inappropriate rubber, but it WILL bite you in the arse eventually. I wish I'd learned cause & effect at a much earlier age as I've done some dumb ar$e things during my car career, but the OP has learned from his mistakes. Some people don't and end up in a ditch :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davidwort 0 Posted December 4, 2013 My sister (bless her) drove for 6 months around Milton Keynes in her mini with basically no pressure in her tyres whatsoever (run-flats). By the time it was serviced she need 4 new tyres and run-flats are not cheap! It doesn't matter what you say to some people, they think anything and everything on their car is catered for by the yearly service and all they do in between is put fuel in it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EJ Taylor 22 Posted December 4, 2013 OH GOD. The graphs are out! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davidwort 0 Posted December 4, 2013 :lol: but 5% are colour blind??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stonejag 10 Posted December 5, 2013 And where's white? :lol: A little stretch does look nice but some of the guys out there are taking things way too far. Check this awesomely-haired guy putting 225s on a 12J rim! Stone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stonejag 10 Posted December 5, 2013 Oh, and this guy. Someone please keep these loonies away from the roads… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrahamU 6 Posted December 5, 2013 wow, those rims look like they should be fitted to a Ford Anglia and driven by a guy smoking a Panama cigar (for those old enough to remember that advert) :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harrier 1 Posted December 6, 2013 Carlos Fandango 's !!! I'm sadly old enough to remember that ad Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted December 6, 2013 Jesus! I just don't get it. It's like the fattest bird ever wearing the tiniest thong. It's just wrong. And where's white? :lol: A little stretch does look nice but some of the guys out there are taking things way too far. Check this awesomely-haired guy putting 225s on a 12J rim! Stone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timmaaah 0 Posted December 7, 2013 It just looks complete and utter w**** imvho of course. Kinda like you can afford nice wheels, but then ran out of money and had to scrimp on the rubber. The other issue is that quite simply, stretched tyres are not as safe as correctly sized and fitted tyres. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VW_OwneR_85 2 Posted December 7, 2013 crazy, what makes it even worse is there probably going on something like this! P.S that hair is nuts! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExR32 10 Posted December 9, 2013 I run stretched on mine and all ok except one keeps giving me grief. Prob a dodgy tyre. Odd how Drift cars use them and they stay on under extreme driving use/pressure! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vw bobby 10 Posted December 9, 2013 That is crazy stretch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExR32 10 Posted December 9, 2013 (edited) Ultimately, it appears no one knows if they are safe or not, stretched tyres have never been tested, which some may say thats why they are dangerous, all have an opinion. Edited December 9, 2013 by ExR32 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davidwort 0 Posted December 9, 2013 If you go back to my link to Yokohama, post #23 you'll see they warn of tyre failure if you go beyond the rim width range specified for each tyre. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites