Tobz_mw 10 Posted January 20, 2015 keep looking m8. I know the need for one is great but it really is worth looking for an example which you will be happy with rather than jumping in & it biting you Yeah definetly im just abit impatient haha but just trying to stay sensible and get one thats going to worth keeping BarberG60-it seemed okay was quiet enough but then again i didnt see it started from cold he told me he had been running it in the morning and it doesnt overheat. Which again concerns me! I dont mind doing any body work but i would much rather a clean rust free one. Seanl82-again i did ask him of he was fixed on that price and he seemed certain but then again i didnt really barta with him about on all the niggles as i wasnt 100%. Again dont mind getting involved with cosmetics :) Just proving hard too find one around the 2k budget thats a clean body with good history :( Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanl82 23 Posted January 20, 2015 You'll struggle to find a really good one at your budget if I'm honest. Best bet is to search out on ebay for one at auction with a low reserve. They don't seem to be fetching a great deal that way lately so provided the seller doesn't pull the plug, you may get a bargain! You'll have to be patient though and who knows if it'll be somewhere within the range you're willing to travel........ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chuggs1 10 Posted January 20, 2015 There is a fairly nice looking grey vr6 on eBay currently under £1000 with just over a day to go on the auction. May be worth a look Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanl82 23 Posted January 20, 2015 This one too is a forum members. Maybe a deal to be done without the second engine and gearbox? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volkswagen-Corrado-VR6-and-spare-engine-/171636215755?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item27f650cfcb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tobz_mw 10 Posted January 20, 2015 This one too is a forum members. Maybe a deal to be done without the second engine and gearbox? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volkswagen-Corrado-VR6-and-spare-engine-/171636215755?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item27f650cfcb Seen that one looks like a good example. Just reading the description says an extra £700 for the extra parts so would assume thats out the price range! :( Half tempted by the yellow g60 haha! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chuggs1 10 Posted January 20, 2015 http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/381121039155. This is the grey one. Although not met the reserve.. so no idea what that's set at. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tobz_mw 10 Posted January 20, 2015 [/quote=Chuggs1;1057748]http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/381121039155. This is the grey one. Although not met the reserve.. so no idea what that's set at. That ones added to the watch list ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanl82 23 Posted January 20, 2015 Seen that one looks like a good example. Just reading the description says an extra £700 for the extra parts so would assume thats out the price range! :( Half tempted by the yellow g60 haha! Ah you're right, didn't read it properly sorry. That said, it's been for sale a few months now iirc. May be worth a cheeky offer! Nugget G60s are pretty rare, could be a good investment..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loepan 11 Posted January 20, 2015 don't jump in feet first, would be my only advice, i did, ended up doing a lot of jobs that could have been avoided if i had only took my time and let my head rule that said, I've loved every minute of ownership Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanl82 23 Posted January 20, 2015 You see, I find the spanner monkeying as enjoyable as the driving. As I said before it depends on how involved you want to get with it tbh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tobz_mw 10 Posted January 20, 2015 don't jump in feet first, would be my only advice, i did, ended up doing a lot of jobs that could have been avoided if i had only took my time and let my head rule that said, I've loved every minute of ownership Haha thats the only problem i have been offered a few cars but they all have there good and bad points like a clean vr6 with leathers but has 186k miles and again a dark blue one with 94k on but is a 1.8 :( so hard to decide what to do haha! You see, I find the spanner monkeying as enjoyable as the driving. As I said before it depends on how involved you want to get with it tbh. Yeah i dont mind at all getting stuck into working on my cars! Lets the time pass on those days off! Just a case of cost of if im putting mor money into one that needs work against saving more and finding one that doesn't haha! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrettS 10 Posted January 20, 2015 I think when buying a car if this age, you go by condition and history rather than millage. A engine it's self shouldn't ever fail if properly maintained and regular oil changes. Engine oil should be doing its job of lubricating to minimise friction and dispersing heat. Wheel bearings, clutches and brakes, bushes wear but also get damaged with age and little use. Would rather have a well looked after hi millage car than something that has low millage because it stood on a driveway and not really thought about. A lot of issues with cars this age is the body and that will effect low millage cars the same as high. Mines done over 170k and have no issues with it really and is in far better condition than some low millage motors I went to view Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tobz_mw 10 Posted January 20, 2015 I think when buying a car if this age, you go by condition and history rather than millage. A engine it's self shouldn't ever fail if properly maintained and regular oil changes. Engine oil should be doing its job of lubricating to minimise friction and dispersing heat. Wheel bearings, clutches and brakes, bushes wear but also get damaged with age and little use. Would rather have a well looked after hi millage car than something that has low millage because it stood on a driveway and not really thought about. A lot of issues with cars this age is the body and that will effect low millage cars the same as high. Mines done over 170k and have no issues with it really and is in far better condition than some low millage motors I went to view Points very well made but again do you not think with such high mileage like the one i have been offered that it will just damage the future classic price? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanl82 23 Posted January 20, 2015 High mileage cars will require engine work before long, regardless of whether they have been well maintained or not. Headgaskets and valve stem seals don't care how well its been maintained (although with good and regular antifreeze changes less so on the headgaskets), but they do wear regardless. He's right in that pistons just don't suddenly appear out of the block, but the ABV is known for bore ovalising too so higher mileage will be more affected by this. I agree to a certain extent with what Brett is saying, and as long as its had some of this work done it should last the life of the car. As you say though, it'll never appreciate in value unless a major engine overhaul has/will have taken place. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lilfuzzer 1 Posted January 20, 2015 Hi Toby How do you think you will be using the car? would be for a daily driver or for a weekend toy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairyarse 10 Posted January 20, 2015 [/quote=Chuggs1;1057748]http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/381121039155. This is the grey one. Although not met the reserve.. so no idea what that's set at. That ones added to the watch list ;) d I had brief messaging with him on ebay before buying Sam's VR last week - this is the second time it's listed. His name is Dave and he seemed a decent chap. He said the car cost him £2k and all the parts £1.5k - wasn't looking to get that total back but open to offers. Said no bodywork or paintwork issues except a small scrape on the bumper and head was refurbished. That's all I know, sounds like it's worth further investigation ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tobz_mw 10 Posted January 20, 2015 Okay great. Again i dont mind having a car with higher mileage just if it would be a case of getting the engine overhauld its not something i would be able as im not that mechanically skilled in the engine area? So can imagine that not being cheap at a garage to have done :( Hi Toby How do you think you will be using the car? would be for a daily driver or for a weekend toy? Hello! Yes will be used as my daily as with only being 21 although having 3 nearly 4 years ncb im struggling to find anyone that will take one on classic insurance and cant afford too have two standard seperate policies :( Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanl82 23 Posted January 20, 2015 Pretty standard for Classic Insurers to only accept ages 25 and over unfortunately. Call around the specialist insurers as you'll have cheaper quotes than you'll get on Gocompare/comparethemarket etc......... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrettS 10 Posted January 20, 2015 The bore issues I wasn't aware with the vr6. And agreed with the head gaskets ect as they are perishable, especially with the contact with, heat, moisture, vibration ect. But, in that situation there would be warning that the head gasket was leaking and begins to fail. To rectify it before any damage to the head is caused. And valve seals, camshaft seals ect, is something we would replace out if course, while the heads off. I think a lot has to do with what route you plan to go with the car. If your after a original standard car, then condition and millage are important. More for the desirability of the car for resale and it's admired by the purists. Myself I wanted to modify the car, I plan to rebuild or change the engine in the future for either a r32 or turbo charge the vr6, not to deviate too far from the original body or trim, just personalise it towards my tastes ect. So for me a good complete Car is what I was looking for, that had a far chunk of the spec I wanted. Millage would be irrelavent in my case, as the items affected with millage would have been renewed or refurbished at some point. What I don't particularly like about going for low millage classics is maintaing the low millage by limiting how much you drive it. And where's the fun in that. And if your only doing a couple of thousand a year then you may as well save a couple of quid and by a higher millage car. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lilfuzzer 1 Posted January 20, 2015 I was about to say that you may need to consider a compromise when working on a budget so depends on your skills, but you have clarified that engine work is not your bag. Would you like to be able to do engine work? If so can I suggest buying a knackered engine, taking it apart then putting it back together again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tobz_mw 10 Posted January 20, 2015 Yeah tried adrian flux,hic and classicline and they are all way more than i want to pay! Anyone you could think to give a try? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lilfuzzer 1 Posted January 20, 2015 brentacre Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tobz_mw 10 Posted January 20, 2015 I will be more than likely to modify the car to my own taste so again i suppose that will affect future price, but it wouldnt be anything that couldnt be reversed to standard again. Like i say it would be a daily but i only have around a 5 mile commute but its then how it would hold out in doing long journeys to car shows and see family etc that would worry me? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lilfuzzer 1 Posted January 20, 2015 just be sure aswell bud that the vr engine works best on longer runs as a cruisers also make sure that you get it up to temp on way to and from work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean_Jaymo 0 Posted January 20, 2015 It will cost a fortune over a 5 mile commute. It will very rarely get properly up to temperature (oil and water) so the car will always be in warm up mode. Definitely a longer distance cruiser and not a short distance commuter. It sounds as if you have made your mind up regardless but don't be surprised when it starts costing in fuel and parts. A lot of the advice given here is from experience and is not rose Tinted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites