G60 to VR6 transplant

[selbekk 0]

I'm thinking of putting a vr into my g60 shell next summer, when I go down to germany to get a new leather interior anyways. I don't got anywhere to do it myself, nor do I have the skills. I was thinking of getting someone to do it for me, but how many hours are we talking about? Are there any "specialists" that do this in the UK? What do they charge?

 

And what do you really do when you swap the engine? Is it a big job? And what more than the engine itself do you have to swap? How much would it cost to buy a vr engine, give it a full rebuild, and then fit it to the car?

 

And how expensive are those blower kits?

 

I know you've probably answered this a million times, but I don't really get the search feature... homework for me I guess.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

PS! Spent the whole day drifting at the local ski center parking lot. Did some really cool back-to-back-to-back ones

[dinkus 10]

I don't mean to put a downer on things mate, but unless you already have a free VR, or want to put a new 24v engine in, then you're going to be better off selling your G60 and buying a VR Corrado.

 

The VR6 needs a late-style bonnet (with a bulge instead of a dip in the middle), different engine mounts, different gearbox, different drive shafts, different hubs, different gauges, ECU and loom, possibly different front wings and then if you want to go the whole hog - a complete new rear axle and hubs (the VR has 5-stud hubs and a wider rear track-width).

 

You're going to be looking at €800+ for just the engine, let alone the huuuuuge amount of labour and other bits and bobs you'll need. Which will be considerably more than the difference between selling your G60 and buying a VR instead.

 

 

Edit: Also moving to Engine Bay ;) :)

[Trig 0]

Yeh would be a crazy idea, bit like trying to change your video player in to a DVD player. :)

[selbekk 0]

hehe well then, I thought it was pretty much plug and play, since the rado came with the vr engine as standard. I guess not tho... I guess I could get about £5000 for my old car, but then I'd have to buy a vr for around... £9000. Lotta money. Would perhaps be a good idea, tho, as I would like a newer model than my 89 non-abs, non-heated seats, non-fancy late model things and so on :)

[Trig 0]

£9000 for a VR?! 30k Storm perhaps? :)

 

With prices the way they are at the moment you could get a sub 100k VR with leather etc. probably in excellent condition. Keep an eye on the For Sale forum mate, loads of bargains to behad! ;)

[selbekk 0]

dude, for a '94 vr, no tuning, 190 bhp and... um, standard, it'll be kr. 90000,- ~ £7000, in taxes alone. into norway that is. Plus the price of the car.

 

you gotta love socialism.

[Trig 0]

Ah.. of course, Norway. Why do you have to pay £7k in taxes?? (sorry for being thick)

[VEEDUBBED 0]

A great shame,i have a '93 'ABV' 2.9cc VR6 mill in bits,sub frame,ECU,loom(LHD),d.shafts,downpipe,front hubs/disks/pads,airflow sensor etc,that lot could get you started on your progect,i'm in Rome so the loom's is ok,i'm fed up with falling over the bits,let me know if you decide to go ahead and start your G60-VR swap.

The engine's only done 32000km from new...

[selbekk 0]

VEEDUBBED, it won't happen until this summer anyways, and if it is such a big job as described here, I might just swap my 130k miles g60 engine into a newer one, which came with the car (supposedly it has 230bhp, but then again, what g60 doesn't ;) ). Are there any differences between lhd and rhd g60 engines by the way?

[selbekk 0]

triggermyson, there are some pretty wild taxation on car imports. It's about £80 a kilo for the weight of the car, about £90 a horsepower, and then there's something for the volume of the engine as well. Oh, and there's a 25 per cent VAT on the price of the car as well.

[dinkus 10]

triggermyson, there are some pretty wild taxation on car imports. It's about £80 a kilo for the weight of the car, about £90 a horsepower, and then there's something for the volume of the engine as well. Oh, and there's a 25 per cent VAT on the price of the car as well.

 

Per kg?! and tax on top of tax... :cuckoo:

[selbekk 0]

oh, shut your hole. we got the idea from you guys. Welfare state my @$$

[Walesy 0]

Chill selbekk, keep your pants on man.

[selbekk 0]

:D

[selbekk 0]

:D Yeah, I'm just kidding around man...

 

It still pisses me off tho, it's like bloody impossible to get good cars into Norway. I'm heading for the US in 2007, so I'll go down to Germany then and get me a minter vr, pick up a blower kit from you guys, and cruise route 66 till the sun goes down..... mmmm nice winter dream.

[BigTartanJudge 0]

Then there is the issue of the £6 pints.... :shock:

 

PS. Your steering wheel is on the way buddy :wink:

 

Cheers

[selbekk 0]

BigTartanJudge, i love you man :) Mine is kinda falling off these days, so I hope I'll get yours before I have to steer with a wrench.

 

Pints are actually so expensive, we usually have a little vorspiel to get good'n drunk before we hit the town. Perhaps we'll drink one beer just to have something to talk over, but getting drunk on the town in Oslo is as sensible as having a trash party at your own house. And the beer tastes terrible too.

[bcstudent 0]

I know a guy who's originally from Norway. I could never understand why he lives here but now I get it! I believe he posts on this very forum, being a VR6 owner himself.

[selbekk 0]

but back to the top and back to the topic. The thought of the vr6 transplant is sounding better every day. I've found a '92 vr6 for sale in germany for €3000, with a nice beige leather interior in it too. Now, if I had this one, I'd have all the bits and bobs I'd need to change it over. how many hours worth of work would it be for a guy who has done it before to do the conversion? including everything :)

 

oh, and what more parts would I need, or should I change once I get the vr inside? I don't know the mileage yet, but when should I look for a different motor? how far can these engines go before they're not worth throwing money at anymore?

[Stan 24v 0]

Youre better off getting a 1.8T 225BHP conversion. Can be done for around £3500 including the engine and parts! ;)

[selbekk 0]

I'm really liking that low down grunt of a vr though. But perhaps a 1.8t would suffice. What would I need for parts then?

[adamukcorrado 0]

i drive a vr6 transplanted into a 1990 16v, and the only advice i could give is don't bother!!! the amount of work and expense involved is unreal, far better off buying a vr6 to begin with.

 

however an advantage of mine is i've got a vr6 in an early body shell which means i can get around emmissons regulations that a vr6 normally has for it's mot, meaning i can take out the catalitic converter and squeeze a few extra horses out of the engine.

[Stan 24v 0]

You need the engine, and not much more iirc. The mounts are the same, and the intercooler can be used too, but you'd probably want a bigger one.

[selbekk 0]

okay, sounds like a deal then. Would I need the gearbox, or would the g60 one work? What would I do with the loom? Splice it with the corrado loom? and if so, where?

[Stan 24v 0]

G60 fits apparently. Not sure about the wiring though.