tombell999 0 Posted December 4, 2008 now im sure a lot of you have seen these 'electric' superchargers for sale in various places.....now what do you lot think? there has been dyno tests tht say they have improved performance but im not so sure? anyway it would be good to listen to your thoughts.......... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VR6 0 Posted December 4, 2008 Engine Bay might be a bit more appropriate ;) ... Moving. IMHO they're a big fat waste of money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tombell999 0 Posted December 4, 2008 my mistake!!! sorry mate well im a cf newbie so i get away wit it ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toad 0 Posted December 4, 2008 They are crap. Run away. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Dude 0 Posted December 4, 2008 a hamster in a wheel would be more effective mate if they're the ones i'm thinking of. :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neil VR6 0 Posted December 4, 2008 You'd be better off putting your money on fire. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toad 0 Posted December 4, 2008 Or just give it to me and I'll remove your spare wheel so the car feels faster. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_leon_ 0 Posted December 4, 2008 must be in the dark as ive not seen them - but 'electric supercharger' doesnt sound very promising... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Critical_Mass 10 Posted December 4, 2008 more ebay tat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JMC 0 Posted December 4, 2008 I have some old computer fans which I can sell you, which would do the same thing Tom :wink: Basically, avoid, bigtime... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_leon_ 0 Posted December 4, 2008 can someone post up a link to see them for a laugh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Dude 0 Posted December 4, 2008 Pure tripe It produces 250CFM of forced air into your manifold and it very quiet under the bonnet when turned on. In fact it has a nice aggressive sound, making it seem like you got something bigger then what you actually have under the bonnet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krnau 0 Posted December 4, 2008 a hamster in a wheel would be more effective mate if they're the ones i'm thinking of. :) :lol: :lol: :lol: I am pretty sure a hair dryer gives more power than this crap... this reminds me of the "fuel saver" 8) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
junkie 0 Posted December 4, 2008 although leaf blowers have been dyno proven to add power, seen it on youtube so must be true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KADVR6 0 Posted December 4, 2008 although leaf blowers have been dyno proven to add power, seen it on youtube so must be true. yeh i saw some stupid wank, sorry meant yank? with a petrol leafblower going straight into he's manifold & he said it gave him an extra 120bhp on some honda one word springs 2 mind. tosser Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VR6Joni 0 Posted December 4, 2008 I'm once came across a web site where a guy worked out the actual power required to generate a reasonable amount of boost through out the full rev range. The long and short of it was a several hp motor would be required(assuming 100% efficiencies), which equates to around 5KW. At 12V this is 416 Amp, assuming you actually manage to get hold of a suitable motor and fit it under the bonnet along with the required electronics/wiring it would probably last a grand total of 10 minutes until your battery is dead. It would most likely be a lot cheaper to go a proven charged method (engine driven / exhaust gas driven) than even trying to get any sort of worthwhile power from an electric method. As stated above "SAVE YOUR MONEY!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dr_mat 0 Posted December 5, 2008 i.e. a supercharger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tombell999 0 Posted December 5, 2008 I have some old computer fans which I can sell you, which would do the same thing Tom Basically, avoid, bigtime... sounds slightly better then that charger does!! how much do you want for them? (joking of course!) i thought this would be the case i just thought it would be worth just finding out what everyone says, but i think i will stay well clear! i might just strap a mate onto the bonnet and tell him to blow into my intake (without sounding too dirty :shock: ) that will probably add bhp at a cheaper cost aswell! anyone got a bit of bailer twine spare? :D ill paint him yellow too and youll never know hes there! ill keep ya updated on my latest genious move................. :clap: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tombell999 0 Posted December 5, 2008 ok.... so what good cheapish moves are there to add a bit of bhp onto a vr then? apart from my friend on my bonnet :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VR6 0 Posted December 5, 2008 I was going to answer your question but you said 'cheapish'. ;) Cams and an induction kit Schrick manifold is good for torque Supercharger is taking it to another level but you get good bhp for your money, although it's not exactly a cheap mod Turbo etc etc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
'Rado VR6 0 Posted December 11, 2008 To be honetst im a fan of old school N/A tuning I.E. headwork, cams, induction and exhaust. but i have looked into electric superchargers (not the egay tat) and there are some suprising developments! as long as the unit is in-line to the intake and before the AFM (so the ECU can register the larger volume of air pressure and compensate with fuel) its just a case of calculating standard air rate drawn in throughout the rev range and finding a motor powerful enough to exceed it to make a difference. Basically your talking a motor the size of your fist producing almost 25,000 rpm to make any significant difference!!! (bearing in mind a powerful angle grinder produces half that!!) but it is possible and worth looking into! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corrado_Addict 0 Posted December 11, 2008 Yea avoid is really the best thing to do with the cheap stuff. Notice how the 1st part of the ad is "CITROEN SAXO" says it all really, and yes I can mock the frenchies as I owned a 106 before my g60 :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
junkie 0 Posted December 11, 2008 To be honetst im a fan of old school N/A tuning I.E. headwork, cams, induction and exhaust. but i have looked into electric superchargers (not the egay tat) and there are some suprising developments! as long as the unit is in-line to the intake and before the AFM (so the ECU can register the larger volume of air pressure and compensate with fuel) its just a case of calculating standard air rate drawn in throughout the rev range and finding a motor powerful enough to exceed it to make a difference. Basically your talking a motor the size of your fist producing almost 25,000 rpm to make any significant difference!!! (bearing in mind a powerful angle grinder produces half that!!) but it is possible and worth looking into! I still think you would need a fan alot larger then that bearing in mind a turbo spins upto 100,000 RPM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
'Rado VR6 0 Posted December 11, 2008 I still think you would need a fan alot larger then that bearing in mind a turbo spins upto 100,000 RPM Yeah this is it, its a subject tackled throughout most forums at some point, its hard to muster the air flow needed but is possible. i had a design for one last year that runs about 45,000 rpm still yet to test it. interesting concept either way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bananawhip 0 Posted December 11, 2008 ok.... so what good cheapish moves are there to add a bit of bhp onto a vr then? apart from my friend on my bonnet You haven't even put the lump in yet and you're already trying to make yours quicker then mine Give up Tom it's a loosing battle you know what I'm like, I'd sell my eyes to buy a supercharger and only ever drive down really straight roads if yours even came close :D Good luck with it though mate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites