Abdul 0 Posted July 24, 2010 mine is de-cat and i hate how noisy it is. going to get a sports cat fitted. oh on that note ... where would i get a sports cat from for my g60 milltek sytem? Gwerkes should be able to sort u out mate... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easypops 8 Posted July 24, 2010 I hope you didn't read my comments badly........i didn't know you had it in a garage......i thought it was in your own garage :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abdul 0 Posted July 24, 2010 I hope you didn't read my comments badly........i didn't know you had it in a garage......i thought it was in your own garage :D No mate, u were fine, it was the comedians LOL... If i had a garage id have taken the front end off and changed the crackpipe along with all the other hoses and given it a good tidy up but i dont and mum n dad will literally kill me if i try doin it in my drive!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zak 0 Posted July 24, 2010 don't go for the decat, makes the exhaust sound tinny and cheap.I did it and swapped back a week later and imo you also lose a bit of midrange torque Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abdul 0 Posted July 24, 2010 don't go for the decat, makes the exhaust sound tinny and cheap.I did it and swapped back a week later and imo you also lose a bit of midrange torque Thanks bro... I think im not going to bother as the system on the vr at the mo just purs along, realy nice and quiet!! I might look for a sports cat later on though. Guys, 6 branch mani's, any good or same as decat; ie pointless lol. Is it worth taking the stock manifold off and wrapping it to contain the heat? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Dude 0 Posted July 24, 2010 don't go for the decat, makes the exhaust sound tinny and cheap.I did it and swapped back a week later and imo you also lose a bit of midrange torque Thanks bro... I think im not going to bother as the system on the vr at the mo just purs along, realy nice and quiet!! I might look for a sports cat later on though. Guys, 6 branch mani's, any good or same as decat; ie pointless lol. Is it worth taking the stock manifold off and wrapping it to contain the heat? Pretty pointless unless you go supercharged imo. You thought about a BMC? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abdul 0 Posted July 24, 2010 don't go for the decat, makes the exhaust sound tinny and cheap.I did it and swapped back a week later and imo you also lose a bit of midrange torque Thanks bro... I think im not going to bother as the system on the vr at the mo just purs along, realy nice and quiet!! I might look for a sports cat later on though. Guys, 6 branch mani's, any good or same as decat; ie pointless lol. Is it worth taking the stock manifold off and wrapping it to contain the heat? Pretty pointless unless you go supercharged imo. You thought about a BMC? I dont want one just because i like the sound the open filter makes over the BMC, i know ill probably lose 5hp over it but meh its worth it imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mlyon89 0 Posted July 24, 2010 Hmm never know what to think about de cats as dont you have to have it refitted for the MOT? cound'nt be bothered with the hassle for the sake of a few ponys. :? I dunno because i use the same garage for my mot/service/exhausts as they're an exhaust and engine tuning specialist so they can just whip it off themselves when the time comes. Wont be for another year anyway as the mot's going to be renewed on monday.... Does it actually improve the power at all? Hmm im not sure i want me exhaust any louder, its really really quiet as it is... Thanks :) I just just decat'd mine 2 weeks ago. it was already decat'd when i bought it and i never even noticed because it wasnt noisey at all! It depends on what back etc you have on aswell obviously. Now that i've changed it back to a decat it does seem to pick up a tad better. It is a raddo Vr6 btw just to confirm! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abdul 0 Posted July 24, 2010 Hmm never know what to think about de cats as dont you have to have it refitted for the MOT? cound'nt be bothered with the hassle for the sake of a few ponys. :? I dunno because i use the same garage for my mot/service/exhausts as they're an exhaust and engine tuning specialist so they can just whip it off themselves when the time comes. Wont be for another year anyway as the mot's going to be renewed on monday.... Does it actually improve the power at all? Hmm im not sure i want me exhaust any louder, its really really quiet as it is... Thanks :) I just just decat'd mine 2 weeks ago. it was already decat'd when i bought it and i never even noticed because it wasnt noisey at all! It depends on what back etc you have on aswell obviously. Now that i've changed it back to a decat it does seem to pick up a tad better. It is a raddo Vr6 btw just to confirm! Hmm, i might get one knocked up and if i dont like the way it sounds etc sell it on, interesting food for thought, thanks dude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Critical_Mass 10 Posted July 24, 2010 i've fitted a sports cat and a 6 branch. Neither really give much gain, if any. The only thing i did notice was it was had a slightly better throttle response. Other then that you wont notice it. The BMC also gives minimal gain, but the noice THE NOISE :D :D :D :lol: Oh and dont wrap the standard manifold and down pipe as it will just crack. Its made of iron so it does well to keep the heat inside anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abdul 0 Posted July 24, 2010 i've fitted a sports cat and a 6 branch. Neither really give much gain, if any. The only thing i did notice was it was had a slightly better throttle response. Other then that you wont notice it. The BMC also gives minimal gain, but the noice THE NOISE :D :D :D :lol: Oh and dont wrap the standard manifold and down pipe as it will just crack. Its made of iron so it does well to keep the heat inside anyway. Ok thanks matey. Usefull advice there! Anyone had their inlet ported/throtle body ported? Im looking for cheapish upgrades to help the car breath a bit better!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fla 9 Posted July 25, 2010 have a drive in mine, just a BMC (plus hopefully a new ecu chip this weekend :) ). Get used to the drive, tidy things up clean lube and polish everything, put some nice rims on and then maybe think about performance mods. Just a suggestion. The power delivery is very linear - the more you press it the more power you get. Certainly mine is like that up to about 6k rpm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Critical_Mass 10 Posted July 25, 2010 have a drive in mine, just a BMC (plus hopefully a new ecu chip this weekend :) ). Get used to the drive, tidy things up clean lube and polish everything, put some nice rims on and then maybe think about performance mods. Just a suggestion. The power delivery is very linear - the more you press it the more power you get. Certainly mine is like that up to about 6k rpm. What chip you getting Hasan? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fla 9 Posted July 25, 2010 its one similar to the *cough cough* AM...........G one :wink: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abdul 0 Posted July 25, 2010 have a drive in mine, just a BMC (plus hopefully a new ecu chip this weekend :) ). Get used to the drive, tidy things up clean lube and polish everything, put some nice rims on and then maybe think about performance mods. Just a suggestion. The power delivery is very linear - the more you press it the more power you get. Certainly mine is like that up to about 6k rpm. Thats pretty much the plan!! Performance mods have only been brought up because i got excited and went off track, the original idea was just to make the bay look prettier haha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erny 0 Posted July 25, 2010 If you don't have the ht lead removal tool simply remove em at the coilpack but take note if where u pulled em from, worth buying the tool tho and keepin it in the boot for when you take it to garages or roadside assistance as people rarely have em, get the bay steam cleaned, give it all a good wipe, and buy a spare cam cover and inlet manifold to paint and polish in ya spare time so u don't have to stop driving, if that's what your hoping to do, you can get a new mk4 header tank nice n clean good upgrade, I port n polished an inlet manifold the othe week and barely notice a difference, (i've a 2.8 in mine) I also ported n polished a spare throttle bodie I had and noticed it picks up alittle better, I got rid of the water hoses to my throttle bodie too as there un-nessacary the heat you get under that bonnet makes it impossible for the throttle bodies to freeze up at all, to do that I used a mk2 water pipe from the bulkhead to the back of the block and cut the hose from the top of my rad at the T and directed it straight to the header. All depends how tidy a bay you want? Weather you want a tidy oem bay or a fancy less is more kinda affair. My cars White so the bay will always look messy, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abdul 0 Posted July 25, 2010 If you don't have the ht lead removal tool simply remove em at the coilpack but take note if where u pulled em from, worth buying the tool tho and keepin it in the boot for when you take it to garages or roadside assistance as people rarely have em, get the bay steam cleaned, give it all a good wipe, and buy a spare cam cover and inlet manifold to paint and polish in ya spare time so u don't have to stop driving, if that's what your hoping to do, you can get a new mk4 header tank nice n clean good upgrade, I port n polished an inlet manifold the othe week and barely notice a difference, (i've a 2.8 in mine) I also ported n polished a spare throttle bodie I had and noticed it picks up alittle better, I got rid of the water hoses to my throttle bodie too as there un-nessacary the heat you get under that bonnet makes it impossible for the throttle bodies to freeze up at all, to do that I used a mk2 water pipe from the bulkhead to the back of the block and cut the hose from the top of my rad at the T and directed it straight to the header. All depends how tidy a bay you want? Weather you want a tidy oem bay or a fancy less is more kinda affair. My cars White so the bay will always look messy, Thanks for the post fella, nice and informative. Have u got a link to this lead removal tool? How did u go about porting and polishing your tb? I wouldnt mind trying myself too!! I believe my header tank is a mk4 one? Oh and yep i want a more fancy bay tbh lol. Im on the hunt for a spare inlet to start polising. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben-B 0 Posted July 25, 2010 If you don't have the ht lead removal tool simply remove em at the coilpack but take note if where u pulled em from, worth buying the tool tho and keepin it in the boot for when you take it to garages or roadside assistance as people rarely have em, get the bay steam cleaned, give it all a good wipe, and buy a spare cam cover and inlet manifold to paint and polish in ya spare time so u don't have to stop driving, if that's what your hoping to do, you can get a new mk4 header tank nice n clean good upgrade, I port n polished an inlet manifold the othe week and barely notice a difference, (i've a 2.8 in mine) I also ported n polished a spare throttle bodie I had and noticed it picks up alittle better, I got rid of the water hoses to my throttle bodie too as there un-nessacary the heat you get under that bonnet makes it impossible for the throttle bodies to freeze up at all, to do that I used a mk2 water pipe from the bulkhead to the back of the block and cut the hose from the top of my rad at the T and directed it straight to the header. All depends how tidy a bay you want? Weather you want a tidy oem bay or a fancy less is more kinda affair. My cars White so the bay will always look messy, Erny, can you get these tools from places like Halfrauds or your local autospares place? I never got why the throttle bodies have coolant pipes going to them... would have thought they're most likely to freeze overnight in winter, in which case cold coolant isn't going to do squat!?! They're not like carbs where you get a big pressure drop, so shouldn't ever get that cold, especially when the engines so hot. I know what you mean about white engine bays, my mate has a MkII polo with a G40 in and it is just filthy, dirt, dust, oil, next time he takes the engine out I'm gonna tell him to get the Karcher in there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erny 0 Posted July 25, 2010 I've not bought one of the tools yet, there's a few of us with vrs round ere and we all look after each other and try to keep each others car running, halfords etc definatly won't have one, Vw might still be able to get em, we had a plastic one amongst us which was fine(altought I've read few bad comments regarding them) my freind Perksy bought the last one don't know were from, I'll ask if he doesn't comment on ere. As for the coolant pipes I figured there an extra place to gain an airlock esp considering there a similar height to the header seem pointless, I cut the block completly off the throttle bodie the other week. Can ya tell ice not got much work on at the moment, ha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben-B 0 Posted July 25, 2010 "there's a few of us with vrs round ere and we all look after each other and try to keep each others car running" That's not filled me with huge confidence :( At least wait til I get a VR6, don't put me off before I buy one :lol: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easypops 8 Posted July 25, 2010 Plug removal tool :D viewtopic.php?f=25&t=37706 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erny 0 Posted July 25, 2010 Ben vrs are a treat, don't worry yourself, a for porting throttle bodies abdul, there's plenty of info n guides online, the corrado 2.9 one barely needs work, as it's a big bore and there's little to no restrictions in there, the 2.8 ones have a huge hump in them and are very differnt The hump is simply there to help increase low down torque, i recently cut open a 2.8 manifoldas they hold less air than 2.9 items, we cut it open, and re-welded a plate over it to make it like a 2.9, and since putting that on my car I noticed a massive loss of lowdown torque, so ied be alittle intrested to know how the 2.8 item reacts with the 2.9 engine, I think the only time people would do this is when they go obd2 so it wouldn't be a fair to say as obd2 managment alters things alittle aswel. If your wanting to tidy your bay alot move your washer bottle n battery to the boot, get a BMW battery cable set up from a scrapyard. Hiding all your wiring isn't the most simple of jobs tho, as you have all the fan over run module, there's also the abs which isn't too attractive too, again it all comes down to what your goin for, my freinds tryin to smooth and hide as much as poss in his vr bay at the moment without compromising any features like most show cars do, Its proving to be keepin him on his toes. Anyways nuff of my yappin, good luck pal, look forward to seeing the results Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coullstar 0 Posted July 25, 2010 Try using the search function on here as most of what you are asking will have been discussed. Get the thing running right then worry about some mods. How old is you car as that will have a bearing on the de-cat thing. Personally I wouldnt bother, Im putting one back in mine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites