Kent Cams on VR

[VR6 Lee 0]

Anyone got Kent Cams fitted to there VR

 

I remember Kent years ago on Escort RS's etc so just wondering if anyone has tried them. I imagine they are great quality as they have been around for years in Moto GP, Rallying tc

 

 

http://www.kentcams.com/product-details/395/Camshaft/Camshaft/VR602-Sports-Injection/

[Dox 23]

http://www.newman-cams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/volksvagen-audi.pdf

 

I was going to try these when I get around to it.

 

Or piper

 

http://www.pipercams.co.uk/pipercams/www/product_nav.php?type=C&cat=CM&man=27&engine=159

[g0ldf1ng3r 15]

Anyone got Kent Cams fitted to there VR

 

I remember Kent years ago on Escort RS's etc so just wondering if anyone has tried them. I imagine they are great quality as they have been around for years in Moto GP, Rallying tc

 

 

http://www.kentcams.com/product-details/395/Camshaft/Camshaft/VR602-Sports-Injection/

 

blimey that is a blast from the past

 

i had some Kent cams in my H reg Nova 1.4 SR when i was 21

 

god damn that car was fun!! dropped at the front, Kent cams, K&N, nice exhaust (cant recall the make), 3 spokes & holy crap it was like a go kart.

 

fastest thing i have ever managed to get through the S bends at the local cloverleaf & would destroy much much faster cars through them

 

pity i wrote it off in patchy fog on way to work one morning, id love to still have it now

 

as for the VR part - i went with Schimmel 263's in mine with the addition of a BMC & a stealth remap

[Hofmiester 10]

I've got a Kent cam in my MK2 track car, pepped it up nicely. Also had them in my old corrado valver and they did the job. Never tried them on a VR

 

 

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[VR6 Lee 0]

I like Schimmel cams but Kent come in much cheaper plus I think the quality is gonna be right up there considering it's heritage

 

 

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[marks2 0]

blimey that is a blast from the past

 

i had some Kent cams in my H reg Nova 1.4 SR when i was 21

 

god damn that car was fun!! dropped at the front, Kent cams, K&N, nice exhaust (cant recall the make), 3 spokes & holy crap it was like a go kart.

 

fastest thing i have ever managed to get through the S bends at the local cloverleaf & would destroy much much faster cars through them

 

pity i wrote it off in patchy fog on way to work one morning, id love to still have it now

 

as for the VR part - i went with Schimmel 263's in mine with the addition of a BMC & a stealth remap

 

I had 3 SR Nova's and loved every minute of owning them.

 

My MK1 Astra GTE 20LET turbo was the icing on the Vauxhall cake. That's one car I wish I had not sold.

[marks2 0]

I like Schimmel cams but Kent come in much cheaper plus I think the quality is gonna be right up there considering it's heritage

 

 

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Are the cheaper cams still re-profiled originals?

[Jim Bowen 1]

Have heard the Techtonics tuning cams are good, but have to import them. I usually wait until the right time of year and they have a 20% for black friday

[g0ldf1ng3r 15]

I had 3 SR Nova's and loved every minute of owning them.

 

My MK1 Astra GTE 20LET turbo was the icing on the Vauxhall cake. That's one car I wish I had not sold.

 

Nice, a mk1 GTE :)

 

the SR nova's were great werent they!

 

back then i lusted after putting a mk2 GTE engine in the Nova - those 3 litre turbo's they would squeeze in there looked so tasty lol

 

though i killed the car i still want to get a repro plate made with its reg H489LOE for the workshop wall

[marks2 0]

We owned a few MK1 GTE's. It's a car I really regret letting go and are now seriously rare.

 

I remember being very jealous when my friend turned up in his B-Reg black SR complete with Janspeed exhaust. The SR's were huge fun.

[VR6 Lee 0]

How do you compare say Kent cams to Schimmel? What do you look for?

 

 

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[Longjon 10]

these guys are just down the road from me !!

[VR6 Lee 0]

I'm gonna give them a bell today and have a chat

 

 

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[g0ldf1ng3r 15]

How do you compare say Kent cams to Schimmel? What do you look for?

 

 

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i would imagine a cam is a cam really though some will be made of more expensive & lighter weight materials

 

it is the lobe profile that will be the difference maker, eg schimmel do 263's or 268's with the latter being a slightly higher lift profile than the former

 

do kent give any info as to the amount of lift the cams give?

[VR6 Lee 0]

Cam lift/valve lift is 10.94mm inlet/exhaust

 

 

 

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[VR6 Lee 0]

email back from them

 

Dear Sir,

 

Thank you for your recent enquiry.The cams in your link are also identical to our VR602 fast road cams.

 

 

 

http://www.kentcams.com/product-details/395/Camshaft/Camshaft/VR602-Sports-Injection/

 

Schimmel cams that I sent them in the email to compare

 

 

http://vr6parts.com/onlinestore/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/36/s/12v-vr6-camshaft-set-263-street/

[g0ldf1ng3r 15]

Cam lift/valve lift is 10.94mm inlet/exhaust

 

 

 

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from http://vr6parts.com/onlinestore/index.php/volkswagen/vr6/12-valve/cylinder-head-valvetrain-parts/12v-vr6-camshaft-set-263-street.html

 

For both boost and naturally aspirated applications, great street can with excellent idle and good all around gains in horsepower and torque.

Chilled hardened billets. Can be used with OEM valve Springs

 

Duration 263

Duration @ .050” - 222°/221°

Lift- .448”

Lobe Center- 115°

 

though i dont really know how to read those stats lol

[VR6 Lee 0]

The lift on the kents are 10.94mm vs 11.37mm on the Schimmel.

 

 

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[g0ldf1ng3r 15]

The lift on the kents are 10.94mm vs 11.37mm on the Schimmel.

 

 

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ok, good interpreting Lee

 

so, the schimmel ones gives a little higher lift - thus potentially giving a little more power

 

i wonder if the duration of lift would also have an impact - i would imagine so as the valve would be open higher for longer

[VAG-hag 0]

The lift on the kents are 10.94mm vs 11.37mm on the Schimmel.

 

 

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So not identical then? :lol:

[VR6 Lee 0]

So not identical then? :lol:

 

whats 43 microns between friends :)

[g0ldf1ng3r 15]

whats 43 microns between friends :)

 

ha ha potentially quite a lot then as the street/race SP268s have a lift of 0.449"

 

which is only 0.001" more than the 263's which are stated as street

[VAG-hag 0]

All very confusing!!

 

Do they have any examples of cars benefiting perhaps?

[g0ldf1ng3r 15]

All very confusing!!

 

Do they have any examples of cars benefiting perhaps?

 

i think that would be hard to quote as it would depend on other engine specs & the remap that was applied

 

we may be able to compare 263 vs 268 on here if someone with 268's comments on their new power output after a remap with the new cams

 

i know the 263's on my VR, with BMC, gave me pretty much spot on 10% gain over standard with the stealth map. i think it would get a little more now due to better breathing with the Longlife SS

[jekel 10]

Had Kent Cams on a Firenza HPF many years ago, coupled with think twin Webber 48's from memory and full engine rebuild, went very, very well.

Kent normally do them in 3 profiles from memory, 2 for road, one full race, it's just about the amount barely tickover etc., and without other engine mods. to back up could be counter productive. Easier in days you just got bigger carbs, manifold exhausts, maybe fruity pistons and overbore to match.

 

Kent used to specialise in Ford engines, Vauxhall to lesser extent, just based on relative rarity of VR6 in UK Schimmel probs got more experience and testing, prtobs more driveability.

 

The running in process is vital too from memory.