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is that from the guy that sells them on ebay germany? whats the qualitly like?

see so its just not the yanks that do it :D

this might or not be a good point but i only find this probs with the G60 lump's driving my brother's G40 is completely different i love that car, now to me thats a great G engine and doesnt have this noise im talking about and it cant be the 8v engine as ive got a 2L 8v vento and i love that so its really hard to explain

dont get me wrong its nothing stupid etc but in my eyes it got this really annoying whistle which constantly there :( and changes pitch with rev's but others and many on here love that its down to personal taste lol

ive got to admit i have thought about putting a VR lump in mine just to feel how it is but to much headache i have even though about swaping mine for a Vr but not sure about it but out of the choice of G60 or 16v sadly 16v wins hands down i cant get used to that charger noise (even thou mine is quiet as hell 2.5 boost tubing and reboost pipe work all plumed in) but i can still hear it

guys in palmers green london shell is at 84.9 ;) forgot what optimax is as i dont put it in my bike anymore

thats cool yeah corrado do seem to put a smile on ur face (my other mates put fear as they to dam quick for what they are) but enjoy it mate and look after it there not many other cars out there that can achieve what the corrado can

Mate totaly agree with your opinions I onl know of two VR that get as much stick as i gave my 16v that havent had probs and my 16v was the best miss it like crazy :( and as for your car i think you paid a good price it might not be the bargins as mentioned on here but as qouted "the guy didnt know what he was selling"

ur kidding me? i know they did it to one many many years ago but thats because it couldnt be put back on the road for some reason (legal reason) Also not the yanks that do it didnt Darren cut up his G60 because it got damaged in his garage form just sitting there?

that be really cool as def sort out the confusion over it all nice thinking mate :)

:lol: :lol: :lol: this comment is completley stupid, :oops: ,, a VR motor is totally different,, we are talking about 2 litre valvers here... as i say I only talk of my experiences,, how’s my comments stupid you guys make a suggestion that a 47% increase of power over standard so a vr with your same theory should make 257bhp taking into account any variance (i.e yes I’m quoting low just in case it cant make it) and I cant see how it would be different your only playing with exhaust cams and porting and all vw engines are well balanced and can rev high and we all know a Vr behaves very similar to a 16v rather than a true v engine also in the end of the day it was you guys that presented that you can get 200bhp from k jet which RMN original question was how much work is it to put the mkIII loom but as your first comments were "why bother u can get 200bhp from k-jet" that’s what’s sparked this off and as with determined from this you cant get this 2000bhp without a lot of work which makes it all pointless and you guys gladly proven it so before u get all smart and say I cant be bothered with this guy how about you rethink your comments, I’ve proven you cant make 200bhp and uve guys agreed with me, without doing the work revving over factory specs isn’t clever and balancing etc will make smoother better power but I guess you guys have it all sussed out how to do it so here’s my advise as you clearly already made yours and I really think your onto something here start your own company advertise to as many people that run k-jet porsches, vw and fords (mercs and Volvos if u fancy but not that huge on the modding scene) and promise them great performance figures but do something for me promise them its going to be a standard engine ;) wouldn’t want you to over charge them for any extra work ;) AS-TECHNiK – i agree heard good things about megasquirt and knew someone running before on a 16v and didn’t run bad but my point form the beginning as RMN is getting all the mkIII bits is that he will get more out of that than the k-jet as standard

first off all it was not a direct comment to yourself so calm yourself down no need to jump and repeat same conversation been had form square one the argument is, that getting 200bhp from a 9A is not easy and not achievable and two cases have been presented to the forum one with a standard bottom end the other not, ok but still doesnt proves that’s it easy to get 200bhp form a 9A with k-jet unless you put in what uve mentioned I suggest you go back to the beginning and read exactly what’s been said from each person im covering all the points instead of picking on each individual and breaking it down that way so sorry if youve taken it the wrong way but thats how i reply and two can you present to me were i criticized yours? as far as im concern your figures etc are fine hence my comment your engine about receiving its compensation for being standard through the throttle bodies was made. it that more clear?

ok then according to your theories and calcuations means if i get a vr lump do the cams portig exhaust fueling etc etc i should be acheiving 257bhp form N/A? and so on with every other enigne in the vw range?

Well i wish you all the best but saying form square one that K-jet is good for 200bhp when you only have one engine thats standard thats hit it i dont think qualifies in my book as in any old perosn out there can get 200bhp form a 9A 2L 16v Also I know David engine is good powered i built one aswell RMN was driving it and all it had was standard 170K bottom end 9A head with KR cams and K&N and exhuast so i know what can be done for doing it cheap but to try achieve those extra horse you have to give the engine what it needs to be able to achieve it. But i dont think that engine could ever achieve 200bhp Also balancing does make a difference Ive already mention that when me and my mate went up against each other and having the extra power due to I could rev high (doesnt mean i can rev to these levels but the power start to tail off 2000rpm ago) proves it In the end fo the day If im still about i the scene next year ill be hunting down these cars are rolling roads etc to have a look at their figures etc and at tracks to see how they go

were just going round and round on this as far as I can put it down to if Grahams is standard bottom end its a freak one off as Ive never seen another one and if you dont think can you prove it ? In the ned of the day yours is running on throttle bodies which allow it to rev that ruther, hence my comment about you have compensate in your case your not restricted from a long standard inlet that would could the extra drag Im going to leave it at this as Ive mad my point I even just showed this thread to another mate who works for Ford motorsport building their motorsports cars they sell on or use themselves etc and he agrees with me but he wanted to know whats the figures for these cars at the wheels and how much loss is being qouted and if there is printouts etc, but weve gone over this point anyhow and i dont want to really carry on if you fancy a good read, read through this:- http://www.pumaracing.co.uk/gentune.htm

yeah well i dont believe in lightening factory flywheels mine was only balanced and thats it still has the same mass weight when i did go superchaged I did put a billet item there as you still have the mass volume but not the mass weight which IMO is the only right way of doing it. Only prob is used to rev like mad and hit limiter quicker than what I was used to and sometimes when cold stall due to the quick drop but you get used to that any how thanx for you replies

so if they all have tsr flywheels they balanced aswell?

sorry but dont agree with u entirely First off all VW engines arent that well balance, Jap one's seem to be the best balance from factory hence why they dont need alot of re-balancing and balancing does affect the power out put as if you cant get a engine to rev smoothly at these high rpm youll get vibrations through the engine which mean loss of energy and motion i.e loss of power or youll have to compensate but putting in more higher fuel grade etc Just looking at my 16v motorsport pistons ive got sitting at home after balancing you can see how much material they removed in the right places to make this happen I do agree having a fully balanced engine means you can happly sit on the limiter all day long and still have a engine that starts up and purs the next day I know that as ive been there done it for four years with my lump. As for Graham im guessing he got lucky as its a block out of a passat meaning that the previous owner was one carefull person and that engine got the best run in possible and we all know the longer the engine is run in nicely the longer it will last and the better it will perform and to be truefull he is the first person Ive heard to be running a standard bottom end making those figures Also how you removing the limiters on the K-jets? Out of interest as well what flywheels you all running?

also i posted this on another thread but might be usefully for some off you guys? http://cgi.ebay.de/Vw-1-8-2-0-16V-Ansau ... dZViewItem

off course mate people dont realise how much of a different throttle degin makes especially on force induction cars for example ive go mates in uno turbos ok standard not much but the biggest power upgrade for them is to put a cossie throttle body on there and turst me it makes a huge difference when ur looking for that extra power

also mate get that bottom end balanced so you can achieve this higher rpms and turst me youll realise power like you wouldnt believe And yes I agree with you about the magnex hence why its more of a quiet system a good flowing system will sound deep as its got the right enough back preasure to pull the fumes out and dont get deep confused with nove fart sounds i mean deep as in on idle youll wake everyone up on ur road and set of car alarms as you go past :D and yes I was proud of it lol easiet example was mine against rmn's corrado (when my mate used to own it) in first we were both the same but once i started to pick up speek i would just start to leave him behind :) (sorry rmn mate lol )

Thank you thats all I wanted to hear :) this is were the proper power comes from balancing that bottom end hence why mine would just scream smoothly and no standard 9A will go to 7800rpm mine was built for 8000rpm hence why i could achive the 156mph i could get :) oh and the 126mph in 4th hitting the limiter ;) and all the time its was so smooth in the car :) this has been entirely my point all the way through there is no way in hell a standard engine will make that much power doesnt matter what you bolt onto it you need to get these things done right balancing is the biggest issue when creating these race lumps chrismc - again thank you for clearing that up for me :)

hey go for it mate :D more for our pensions in the future lol

here you go mate this might do the job :) http://cgi.ebay.de/Vw-1-8-2-0-16V-Ansau ... dZViewItem

dont u just know it lol ;) hey saves me sitting behind 50 old woman waiting to pick up their weeks money :( hate lining up