jonrb 0 Posted February 13, 2007 Didn't MTM do a "Bimoto TT", but with two 400hp TT engines?! Evo drove it and said it was the most brutal acceleration they'd experienced at the time, LOL! Yes. They group tested it with a few other mental cars including a bonkers Elise with an Audi 2.7TT V6 out of the previous generation RS4. Oh yes. There has also been a twin engined Golf with a 2.8L VR6 at one end and a 2.9L VR6 at the other. Not forgetting the Z-cars Minis with 2 x GSXR-1000 bike engines in them. Actually, I seem to recall an article in either AutoCar or EVO that listed all the twin-engine cars they had been able to find. Edit: Looks like Z-Cars are working on a twin-engined Ultima now. :shock: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
biggerbigben 0 Posted February 13, 2007 Wicked.. looking good! Did the mk2 shell fit ok once you had hacked it about? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vr6banana 0 Posted February 13, 2007 Wicked.. looking good! Did the mk2 shell fit ok once you had hacked it about? MK2 cage????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vr6banana 0 Posted February 13, 2007 popped in place, sick of welding upper firewall mount fitted so the harness will fit round the cage infront of it, the rusty bit is a front engine stabilizer mounting with a rose joint onto the upper cage brace. uprights fitted for the fuel tank mounts to bolt to just inside the rear quaters firewall mounts tacked in place, hope to fit the fuel pumps under the floor out of the way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CorradoVR6-Turbo 0 Posted February 13, 2007 By the amount of pics you have you are either a quick worker or you have this project almost done? :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vr6banana 0 Posted February 13, 2007 By the amount of pics you have you are either a quick worker or you have this project almost done? :lol: Nowhere near done, I’m off work ill so this is just filling in my time, normally I don’t get much chance to post on the forum as I work a minimum of 12-14hr days 6 days a week Bored out of my mind at the moment :x :x Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
biggerbigben 0 Posted February 13, 2007 Wicked.. looking good! Did the mk2 shell fit ok once you had hacked it about? MK2 cage????? opps my bad, meant cage :oops: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vr6banana 0 Posted February 13, 2007 Wicked.. looking good! Did the mk2 shell fit ok once you had hacked it about? MK2 cage????? opps my bad, meant cage :oops: The cage wasn’t too hard to fit, just kept on shortening the legs to fit and tilt the cage slightly forwards until it followed the contour of the roof. I’m not sure on the fit if you were going to try and keep some of the interior, I would have though it would fit down the side of the rear seats (if your not using a rear diagonal) but as for the dash I’m not sure, I’ll post some pics of the cage around the front once there resized. Good thing is that this lowers the door bars so it would be easier to get in and out of a std car. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe M 0 Posted February 13, 2007 Curious as to how this will handle without a centre diff. If you put the foot down wouldnt it be possible to light up the front tyres but have the back engine bog down at the same time? I take it the more powerful engine is going in the back. Awesome piece of work though. Will be watching this thread :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STORM 2 0 Posted February 14, 2007 Here we have an example of that Great British Character - that 'let's see what I can do' spirit. We have a small scale version of the Veyron project going on in Sheffield :shock: Good Luck to you and please keep us updated! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A7 UFO 0 Posted February 14, 2007 There has also been a twin engined Golf with a 2.8L VR6 at one end and a 2.9L VR6 at the other. Above was Dubsport's Rallye. Dubsport also did my twin 2.0 16v, a mid engine 3.1VR6T (orange one) and, of course, the twin VR6T mk3 (B16 DUB). I cracked 4secs 0-60 at Santa Pod so, if you can keep the weight down, this should also be easily achievable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim 2 Posted February 14, 2007 Incredible. One thing i've always wondered about these twin engined cars.. is it a comparatively difficult thing to do because of having to get exactly the same amount of power and getting the exact same gearing? As in if each engine delivers different power you're going to get different propulsion from each set of wheels.. I guess that would make the car liable to spin up the wheels or behave erratically. So how do you get both engines to deliver the same power at the same time? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A7 UFO 0 Posted February 14, 2007 Incredible. One thing i've always wondered about these twin engined cars.. is it a comparatively difficult thing to do because of having to get exactly the same amount of power and getting the exact same gearing? As in if each engine delivers different power you're going to get different propulsion from each set of wheels.. I guess that would make the car liable to spin up the wheels or behave erratically. So how do you get both engines to deliver the same power at the same time? You don't have to get identical power from each engine. As said above, Dubsport's Rallye ran a 2.8VR6 front and a 2.9VR6 rear. Easiest way to imagine it is - a car is being pushed by two people one unfit and the other a strong athlete....even though they have different powers the car will still go faster when they push at the same time...just that one person will use up more energy and work harder than the other. Its actually an easy conversion as the engines, in my mk1, only shared the fuel tank and cooling system. Other than that they run completely seperate. Only difficult part is the clutch and gear change system along with throttle cables - obviously the front engine set up is standard so it is only the rear that has to be thought about. On my mk1, the rear clutch bit a fraction of a second before the front to aid take off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaveVR6 0 Posted February 14, 2007 vr6banana, Looking very good, just out of curiousity what do you do for a living? Own a small garage in Sheffield, that’s why the work is so slow, need to fit it around all the other work :( A VW specialist garage? Which part of sheff? Could do with a garage near me that knows corrados! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vr6banana 0 Posted February 14, 2007 all the internal underseal off floor brace in dash frame in and extra drivers door bar start of the rear rad ducting, side air vent box almost done rad support and fan mountings most of the frame work done.... thank feck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blue95 0 Posted February 14, 2007 This is mental!!! Is that a Rallye rear axle sat under the car on page 1??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vr6banana 0 Posted February 14, 2007 Rear track is a little wider than I though it would be, that’s on 7x15” MO’s but I have a set of 8x17” MO’s to go on. The inside is going for paint but the outside will have to wait till all the running gear is on so I can stretch or alter the rear arches. The rear hubs are MK2 16V fronts with 5 stud flanges fitted (off the front of the old Syncro) which will have the 305mm discs and Brembo 4 pots. Once it’s done I’ll decide on what to do with the 10x 15” MO’s I already have, if the 17’s suit it I’ll sell all the 15’s and replace them with more 17’s. ARB’s are a pair of Eibach front Corrado VR items ordered as a pair of fronts through GSF, the mounting of the rear bar may differ from the front depending on whether I use the Passat VR or Corrado VR arms on the rear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vr6banana 0 Posted February 14, 2007 This is mental!!! Is that a Rallye rear axle sat under the car on page 1??? Yep, it was off the old syncro I built, all sold now as it was surplus to requirements. See http://www.20vsyncro.co.uk/MyGolfSyncro.htm for the last car i built, some of the bits will be going on this one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blue95 0 Posted February 14, 2007 :shock: Wow thats some awsome work on the golf syncro! it s amazing to see the amount of custom fabrication work that went into it! Must have been hard to part company with it after all that work?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vr6banana 0 Posted February 14, 2007 Must have been hard to part company with it after all that work?! Surprisingly not, I didn’t like the rear suspension set-up, give me a sold beam anyday. The Syncro was a test build before transferring it into another shell, I bough a Rallye shell but the log book came back with a few discrepancies so I sent it back, at the same time Coxy decided he didn’t like the colour of the Corrado I sold him so I bought it back. I was going to mid mount an engine and make it RWD but then another 1.8t came up so I snapped it up, hence the twin engine project old Syncro, sat well but needed a diff in it. i'm 6' but the seat is on the floor so it looks like a kids at the wheel :lol: N/S/F tyre from Croft, should have kept an eye on the tyre pressures :lol: :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhatVR6 0 Posted February 14, 2007 chicken oriental i was in the mk2 at the time of that trye "going off" as you put it. hope to see this on the track later it the year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vr6banana 0 Posted February 14, 2007 i was in the mk2 at the time of that trye "going off" as you put it. Wasn’t going to let the AMD R32 past even if it went bang :lol: :lol: :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vr6banana 0 Posted February 14, 2007 sun roof fitted at the wrong end :? :? :? :? :? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
24V Renshaw 0 Posted February 14, 2007 Love it, love it, love it. Remember you mentioning this in the pub at Squires last year. Good to see it has progressed so much :) Jay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
biggerbigben 0 Posted February 14, 2007 loving that mod to the roof!! awesome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites