Dox 23 Posted July 28, 2015 I think he just meant yes your engine could go pop but you could have a crash, you could get knocked down by a bus, you could mistakenly pick up the Deep Heat instead of the Anusol etc I know someone who whilst camping on a busy family site brushed his teeth with immac, he only realised when he started retching in front of a packed toilet block Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g0ldf1ng3r 15 Posted July 28, 2015 its a tough choice Jamie but a very nice 1 to have & sounds like you are going through the full sensible process, testing one via hire for a weekend would be a great idea. it should give you an inkling into what it may like to live with my bro-in law has a 996 C4S, personally not a favourite of mine as i favour the 993 shape or old skool 911. i think it is the broad similarities the 996 / 997 share with the other models that put me off, as with most modern cars they all really look too much alike ive driven a 1978 911, the bro-in laws 996 C4S & have been lucky enough to have been passenger in my old MD's 996 GT3 several times (including on a track day where he set his fastest time of the day with me in there & did some doughnuts to celebrate :D ). the GT3 is another league of motor completely, i don't think ive ever been in a car which could cover so much ground in so little time. truly awesome! add to that the feeling that you are actually glued to the road & i think it was almost as much fun to be a passenger as a driver lol the 996, well, lets just say i smiled & said all the right things as it was my bro-in laws but i wasn't overly impressed. the brakes were good lol i think it was the way it felt very computerised if that makes sense. james may would say it didn't give him 'the fizz' if you all get me. rather disconnected & even though his has the optional exhaust thingy to make it sound gruntier i think my VR sounds much better now ive got the 2.5 straight through exhaust the old skool 911 is my dads & though it hasn't been out on the road for a long time i still remember fondly the day he let me drive it down country lanes when i was about 18 or 19. being totally honest it still gives me tingles to recall being sat in the driving seat with the targa roof off at a cross roads, putting her into 1st (my dad giving me an approving nod as he normally pulled off in 2nd) & then hearing my mom yelp from the back seat as i gave it full beans off the line lol it was only a short drive & a long time ago but i can still remember the way it felt solid, spoke to you through the steering wheel feedback, through your backside on the seat (something i find in common with the corrado's we all love) & oh the sound!! i used to love waking up to the sounds of a flat 6 rumble when i was young! i think it it the last few points which either keeps us with our rado's or keeps people coming back to them, it is the overall driving experience & a feeling of being connected to the car thus for me the porker i would like to buy would either be way out of my league (a dream would be a 993 GT2 but they are like 120K lol) or old skool air cooled it is my big 4-0 next year & im hoping that maybe, just maybe the below may be coming my way finally after many years.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted July 28, 2015 The only 911 I've had a decent drive of was a 993 3.6 wide body. That was really nice. My Rado was supercharged at the time and I remember thinking the 993 would pretty much murder it everywhere except in a straight line, and even then only right at the top of the rev band. So yeah, a 911 is definitely a big step up, even an ancient one like the 993! Awesome cars. Would love a 997 but can't really justify it at the moment. Every 997 / 991 I see these days is driven by middle aged blokes driving them at 60 everywhere. Such a waste. I hope you cane the arse off it!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G60MAT 0 Posted July 28, 2015 Interesting thread... to be fair the any 911 including the 996 is a world away from the Corrado... The Corrado market (despite numerous attempts on here) is soft, cars are cheap and mods are pretty easy depending on how far you want to go. Will you get you money back? - Unlikely. Will you thinks its worth far more than it is? - Likely. But to be fair after having 3 Corrado's none of us are in it for the money, just to enjoy a great car. In contrast the Porsche market for most older models has been on fire the last couple of years although prices on cars such as the 964 have softened a little in recent months. Cars like the 996 are clearly as cheap as they will ever be - often unloved due the "fried egg lights" these cars are only going to rise in value like all the other "vintage" Porsches have done. Yes there are issues, yes you need to buy carefully, but 300bhp of Stuttgarts finest from £10-12k seems like one of the few great performance bargains out there at present! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mic_VR 3 Posted July 28, 2015 FFS Mic - DON'T!!! :lol: :lol: Just trying to help. If I'm completely honest mate, I'm in a similar quandary with mine and what I really want.... I change my mind more than my pants! :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coullstar 0 Posted July 28, 2015 Every 997 / 991 I see these days is driven by middle aged blokes driving them at 60 everywhere. Such a waste. I hope you cane the arse off it!! This was also a small deciding factor for me not getting one now. I turned up and the salesmen asked if it was an early mid life crisis in a joking way. Its stupid but it did annoy me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim 2 Posted July 28, 2015 Interesting thread... to be fair the any 911 including the 996 is a world away from the Corrado... The Corrado market (despite numerous attempts on here) is soft, cars are cheap and mods are pretty easy depending on how far you want to go. Will you get you money back? - Unlikely. Will you thinks its worth far more than it is? - Likely. But to be fair after having 3 Corrado's none of us are in it for the money, just to enjoy a great car. In contrast the Porsche market for most older models has been on fire the last couple of years although prices on cars such as the 964 have softened a little in recent months. Cars like the 996 are clearly as cheap as they will ever be - often unloved due the "fried egg lights" these cars are only going to rise in value like all the other "vintage" Porsches have done. Yes there are issues, yes you need to buy carefully, but 300bhp of Stuttgarts finest from £10-12k seems like one of the few great performance bargains out there at present! See this is my thinking about the 996. It can't go cheaper. Now is surely the time to find a good one to put away as an occasional use / summer / weekend type car and whilst it may not necessarily climb massively in value, it can't lose much. Compare to what's been sunk into my Corrado in the last few years, plus the depreciation from the original purchase price, I'd have been much better off with a 911! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poll250 0 Posted July 28, 2015 (edited) I considered 911's a couple of years ago -with a budget of £20-25k I was looking at 964,996 or 997.1. I ended up in Gen1 Cayman S and don't regret it for a second. Engines going pop does happen but, as said, it really is a very small percentage in the grand scheme of things, and it's not absurdly costly to fix. Cheeky photo: [ATTACH=CONFIG]82039[/ATTACH] Edited July 29, 2015 by poll250 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coullstar 0 Posted July 28, 2015 For a zero depreciation car they are the one to buy, as is any older style Porsche at the moment. Newer ones you will have to hold onto for a bit longer. Saying that I had my Corrado for 3.5 years and once all has been taken into account it in affect cost me nothing in that time. The key is picking a good one in the first place. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chuggs1 10 Posted July 28, 2015 See this is my thinking about the 996. It can't go cheaper. Now is surely the time to find a good one to put away as an occasional use / summer / weekend type car and whilst it may not necessarily climb massively in value, it can't lose much. Compare to what's been sunk into my Corrado in the last few years, plus the depreciation from the original purchase price, I'd have been much better off with a 911! Would love to do the same but Garage only big enough for one car so which one would get it? And there is the small matter of the cash! haha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie 1 Posted July 28, 2015 I know someone who whilst camping on a busy family site brushed his teeth with immac, he only realised when he started retching in front of a packed toilet block :lol: :lol: Depreciation doesn't bother me whatsoever and never has done but this will be a keeper anyway. I'm not too bothered if it doesn't rip my face off tbh as I'm getting on bit now so it's not like I'm going to be caning the arse off it, more gentle 60mph cruising for me these days :D Cheers for all your input gents really appreciate it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclean 10 Posted September 10, 2015 I drove a 997 C2S on the way to Le Mans. It was surprisingly docile, but given the Corrado is so low and they both have sedate German interiors, there's not a night and day difference in terms of occasion. A+ cupholder mechanism, would use again. Obviously it's in a totally different performance league, but possibly not any more fun on British B road. Now is a really good time to buy a 997 though, because PDK, the 991 is huge and now they've announced everything will have turbos and they're starting to creep up in value. A good 997.1 C2S right now is around £28-30k. The real answer is to have a project Corrado, weekend Porker; oh yeah, and a daily ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mic_VR 3 Posted September 10, 2015 Things like this aren't helping my decision mate..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean_Jaymo 0 Posted September 10, 2015 I went from a Corrado to a 964. Brilliant and amazing and I wish I had never sold it. Came back to a Corrado and 24v'd it and I found that I hadn't really ever gotten over that Porsche. Utterly amazing. It was air-cooled and they are far cooler than the modern water cooled stuff! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie 1 Posted September 10, 2015 I went from a Corrado to a 964. Brilliant and amazing and I wish I had never sold it. Came back to a Corrado and 24v'd it and I found that I hadn't really ever gotten over that Porsche. Utterly amazing. It was air-cooled and they are far cooler than the modern water cooled stuff! Yeah see that's my problem Sean - the Porsche I want is an aircooled one which is now waaaayyy out of my price range. I've been looking at maybe getting another old American car recently as well so the Porsche thing may be going on the back burner for the time being and I may be putting my Corrado up for sale very soon as well. Main problem being I'm selling a house and am just getting messed about left, right and centre by "buyers" pulling out so I'm no further forward on anything at the moment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bullfinch 0 Posted September 15, 2015 911's are fantastic cars. I've owned a Gen 2 997 Carrera 4S for almost 2 years and I don't tire of driving it. I owned that and a Storm together for around 18 months until I sold the Storm in May. I went for the best one I could with my budget, it was bought from a main dealer with a Porsche warranty for piece of mind. I now have a Golf as a daily so keeping the 911 for weekends makes it feel that more special when I drive it. Here's a picture of the 911 and Corrado together. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coullstar 0 Posted September 16, 2015 Im back looking again at 911's. Decided I may never get a chance to own one again so going for it if I can find the right one for my budget. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G60MAT 0 Posted September 16, 2015 Im back looking again at 911's. Decided I may never get a chance to own one again so going for it if I can find the right one for my budget. Can't really argue with the 996 prices at present, early Carrera 2, 300BHP of RWD fun! (New IMS bearing) job done! ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie 1 Posted September 17, 2015 Can't really argue with the 996 prices at present, early Carrera 2, 300BHP of RWD fun! (New IMS bearing) job done! ;) This is it - I'm seeing very tidy examples for silly money at the moment. Even if you factor in an uprated IMS or worse case scenario a Hartech rebuild the they still seem to be bargains for what you get for your money Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G60MAT 0 Posted September 17, 2015 This is it - I'm seeing very tidy examples for silly money at the moment. Even if you factor in an uprated IMS or worse case scenario a Hartech rebuild the they still seem to be bargains for what you get for your money Unbelievable value compared to 964 or 993, although 997 is clearly a better car if you can stretch the budget. 996 is clearly not the all time great 911 but prices will only go one way (real world not forum chat/wishing)... Plus they are rather rapid! ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisL 20 Posted October 26, 2015 Had a drive of a friends 2009, 997 turbo on Friday! I have never been in a car where the horizon comes at you as fast as this, truly mental machine. Point it at a straight road and hold on! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coullstar 0 Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) Ive had my 996 C4s for a month or so and managed to give it a good blast at the weekend. Simply brilliant, such an awesome car. There will be things quicker in all terms but the overall feeling, built quality, steering, power etc is such a well honed package. A turbo must be awesome but Ive heard the miss out on the noise aspect which I think you really need, when wound up they sound sublime. Edited October 27, 2015 by coullstar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie 1 Posted October 27, 2015 Ive had my 996 C4s for a month or so and managed to give it a good blast at the weekend. Simply brilliant, such an awesome car. There will be things quicker in all terms but the overall feeling, built quality, steering, power etc is such a well honed package. A turbo must be awesome but Ive heard the miss out on the noise aspect which I think you really need, when wound up they sound sublime. Didn't realise you'd actually taken the plunge Coullstar that's great to hear. I went out for a spin in a 997 C4S a few weeks back and what a fantastic car. There's a 996 C4S locally I've got my eye on but I have 10 more days before I'll have the cash. Only downside is if I buy a C4S the Corrado will more than likely have to go. It's been an agonising wait but I'm nearly there :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bullfinch 0 Posted October 27, 2015 Glad to see some folk making the switch up to a 911. Just remember everything is much more expensive. I've got a main dealer service on mine booked in for next month - only £1,361 plus an extra £54 for the MOT!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alfagtman 10 Posted November 9, 2015 Not wanting to seem too smug but I actually own a 2005 997 Carerra S and a Corrado G60 (among other cars). I don't think its very useful comparing the two performance wise. Obviously the 997 would leave the G60 standing but the Corrado is a much more useable car for regular use. Even though I am ultra careful with all my cars I simply would not park the 997 on the street or leave it unsupervised for very long in the multi storey car park. Also other than changing the oil and filter a 997 requires more specialised servicing than a regular Corrado so from a DIY standpoint the Porsche is not much good. I would not change a Corrado for a Porsche 996 however. The 996 in my opinion is a very dull car aesthetically in the exterior and especially the interior. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
