nitsypee 0 Posted June 10, 2017 My Storm is burning oil. What are my realistic options, other than topping it up (which is my current method)? Using about 1/2 litre a month. Ta in advance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanl82 23 Posted June 10, 2017 Depends what the symptoms are mate. Are there any minor or major leaks? If not, its likely going to need internal work with the head (valve stem seals) or block (piston rings). Either way it'll require further digging by removing the head to check. Do you get blue smoke from the exhaust when coming off the throttle? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nitsypee 0 Posted June 10, 2017 It's definitely putting out some smoke from the exhaust. No oil leaks, so it's being burnt up somewhere. I guess it's difficult to tell before it's investigated, but I don't suppose anyone's got a rough guide of cost for likely solutions?! (And, linked to this, does anyone know if Jabba Sports would be a suitable helper? They're not far from me.) Cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dr_mat 0 Posted June 10, 2017 How many miles per month? Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nitsypee 0 Posted June 10, 2017 Lots of miles; using it as a daily (which I feel guilty about). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dox 23 Posted June 10, 2017 6L per year is cheap motoring Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanl82 23 Posted June 10, 2017 Theres your annual oil change anyway! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nitsypee 0 Posted June 10, 2017 he heh! It is indeed. But am I just creating more damage, or making things worse by ignoring it? Or is it ok to live with? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanl82 23 Posted June 10, 2017 It'll potentially damage your lambda sensor so could cause emissions test failure at MOT, but a small amount is unlikely to damage the engine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dr_mat 0 Posted June 10, 2017 The book states it can use up to 1l/1000km, like all car handbooks; it's not a good sign to use a lot but the cost of a fix is very high, so you need to be sure it's what you want to do before going that way. Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nitsypee 0 Posted June 10, 2017 The book states it can use up to 1l/1000km, like all car handbooks; it's not a good sign to use a lot but the cost of a fix is very high, so you need to be sure it's what you want to do before going that way. Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk And money is a bit of a problem at the moment, so if it comes to the crunch it might be sell rather than fix. Which would not make me a happy chappie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dr_mat 0 Posted June 11, 2017 Why does it even matter? Why sell a good running car you love just because it's burning a bit of oil? It'll run for years like that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nitsypee 0 Posted June 11, 2017 Why does it even matter? Why sell a good running car you love just because it's burning a bit of oil? It'll run for years like that. That's good to know. I was worried I might be causing more problems by "ignoring" it. Cheers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rado87 10 Posted June 11, 2017 What mileage is on her? I bought my VR off my uncle at 255000miles. He had a similar issue and it was diagnosed as the valve stem oil seals. He ran it without issue for years until the oil pressure dropped (due a to a worn oil pump drive shaft) but he didn't notice because the oil pressure warning system wasn't working properly! Which resulted in the chain tensioner failing and so on. Anyway, I guess what I'm trying to say is if you keep on top of regular maintenance and make sure you oil pressure warning systems are working ok then I would say it would be fine. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rado87 10 Posted June 11, 2017 If it were piston rings on the other hand I would think you'd have running issues due to low compression. And it would be smoking a lot! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dr_mat 0 Posted June 11, 2017 The VR6 can have bore ovalling that causes oil consumption without having significant running issues. Point about it all really is that that is the only symptom, so you put up with it until the engine starts to run badly or you find yourself feeling flush enough to drop a couple of grand on a rebuild.. Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VEEDUBBED 0 Posted June 11, 2017 You could Always make me an offer on My, possibly only one, 19.000km run block, pistons and crank!! That's guaranteed to sort your problem mate.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nitsypee 0 Posted June 11, 2017 My mileage is around 135k. Used daily, oil level checked regularly, and I make sure I keep on top of servicing and anything it needs. It does smoke a bit, but I don't really have enough spare cash for rebuilding. So - probably safe to leave it for now, I guess? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dox 23 Posted June 11, 2017 That consumption is normal, keep it topped up and it'll last years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nitsypee 0 Posted June 12, 2017 To answer my own question of whether Jabba Sports would be interested in investigating the VR6 engine - that would be a no. Popped in there today. Also popped in my usual local garage, who suggested that the longer I left it the more likely it would be to fail on emissions in the MOT. Have they got a point? (That got me a little worried.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dr_mat 0 Posted June 12, 2017 Unlikely. It usually burns oil on the overrun, not on constant light throttle running at 3000rpm, which is what the MOT test does. Anyway, as others have said, it's likely it will be years and tens of thousands of miles before anything significant happens. Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dox 23 Posted June 12, 2017 To answer my own question of whether Jabba Sports would be interested in investigating the VR6 engine - that would be a no. Popped in there today. Also popped in my usual local garage, who suggested that the longer I left it the more likely it would be to fail on emissions in the MOT. Have they got a point? (That got me a little worried.) Some new audis use 1L per 500 miles, stop worrying about what could happen sometime never. £30 per year on oil burning is nothing compared to £4-5K for a full rebuild Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2 0 Posted June 12, 2017 Some new audis use 1L per 500 miles, stop worrying about what could happen sometime never. £30 per year on oil burning is nothing compared to £4-5K for a full rebuild Some old ones too....my S4 uses quite a bit of oil between services. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dr_mat 0 Posted June 12, 2017 I wish "burning a bit of oil" was top of the list of concerns with my Corrado! Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gti_Jamo 10 Posted June 14, 2017 If it's burning it on over run then the likely hood the valve stem seal are worn, probably due to worn exhaust valve guides. Common problem with old VR6 engines. So to repair properly would require the head off, guides replaced and valve seats re-cut. And possibly new valves if they are out of spec. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
