Keyo 47 Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) Lovely Bubbly for those that cant wait. Sure the horror stories and photos that I have seen from the Mk2 of fires been caused by the DDR Im not risking it- in the Mk2 though where it is located it is liable for the cable of the dim to rub on the chassis leg. Edited December 11, 2020 by Keyo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g0ldf1ng3r 15 Posted December 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Keyo said: Lovely Bubbly for those that cant wait. oooo they look tasty!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) I have one of these on my car if you don't want to mount the relays- I just pop them in the bag keeps them nice and dry. Tidy in the bay as well and protects battery tray from leaks of battery and of course protects battery contacts from elements, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Car-Battery-Cover-Frost-Protection-Thermal-Wrap-Battery-Pocket-NEW-45-65-Ah/113928931467?_trksid=p2485497.m4902.l9144 Edited December 11, 2020 by Keyo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fendervg 33 Posted December 11, 2020 They look great and well made - waiting on delivery with excitement! Pretty much any uprated loom needs to have the dim dip resistor disconnected, otherwise the full low beam will come on with the switch on sidelights only, as there will be enough current to trip the relays. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dox 23 Posted December 11, 2020 If you plug in dim dip resistor you’ll only get side lights with ignition off, once you turn the key dipped beam will illuminate, so a possible mot failure Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stuarttaylor37 13 Posted December 12, 2020 19 hours ago, Keyo said: I have one of these on my car if you don't want to mount the relays- I just pop them in the bag keeps them nice and dry. Tidy in the bay as well and protects battery tray from leaks of battery and of course protects battery contacts from elements, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Car-Battery-Cover-Frost-Protection-Thermal-Wrap-Battery-Pocket-NEW-45-65-Ah/113928931467?_trksid=p2485497.m4902.l9144 Not so useful if your car is stored/parked outside, water runs down the channel on the wing and drips on to the battery blanket. This then absorbs the water and remains wet. The relays placed inside will eventually corrode and short out. Well they did on mine, I have since put mine in a small plastic container in front of the battery and had no issues since. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, stuarttaylor37 said: Not so useful if your car is stored/parked outside, water runs down the channel on the wing and drips on to the battery blanket. This then absorbs the water and remains wet. The relays placed inside will eventually corrode and short out. Well they did on mine, I have since put mine in a small plastic container in front of the battery and had no issues since. Hmmm mine stays nice and dry my car is parked on a sloped drive maybe that helps also have new water channel buffers opposite side of internal scuttle trim. Also kept in front of battery . Edited December 12, 2020 by Keyo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stuarttaylor37 13 Posted December 12, 2020 Just now, Keyo said: Hmmm my stays nice and dry my car is parked on a sloped drive maybe that helps also have now water channel buffers opposite side of internal scuttle trim. My drive is sloped too. It still happened to mine even with those buffers in place. Worth keeping an eye on as those battery bags dont look wet even when they are sodden. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fendervg 33 Posted December 12, 2020 Best solution is a small watertight container to put the relays into. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, stuarttaylor37 said: My drive is sloped too. It still happened to mine even with those buffers in place. Worth keeping an eye on as those battery bags dont look wet even when they are sodden. Will do- these with a three relay might work well - in hindsight could of been built into the looms > waterproof relay box. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/6-Relay-5-Road-Auto-Relay-Holder-Box-Socket-Fuse-Waterproof-Lid-Insurance/184381992607?hash=item2aee05ee9f:g:6VEAAOSwEJlfIvkb Edited December 12, 2020 by Keyo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted December 12, 2020 Anyone got a link for something suitable ? Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stuarttaylor37 13 Posted December 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, fendervg said: Best solution is a small watertight container to put the relays into. I've got a new one of the original D and G relay kits somewhere in the loft that I've never got round to fitting that has a smart aluminium box to house the relays Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted December 12, 2020 Just now, stuarttaylor37 said: I've got a new one of the original D and G relay kits somewhere in the loft that I've never got round to fitting that has a smart aluminium box to house the relays You got a link chap ? Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stuarttaylor37 13 Posted December 12, 2020 Just now, Keyo said: You got a link chap ? Thanks Sadly they I believe they went out of business years ago Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted December 12, 2020 Just now, stuarttaylor37 said: Sadly they I believe they went out of business years ago Ok thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) These look damn good as well marine ones. All the fuses and relays tucked away in a nice dry place. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Universal-Waterproof-Relay-Panel-Marine/dp/B01FWILJQI Edited December 12, 2020 by Keyo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stuarttaylor37 13 Posted December 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, Keyo said: These look damn good as well marine ones. All the fuses and relays tucked away in a nice dry place. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Universal-Waterproof-Relay-Panel-Marine/dp/B01FWILJQI They look pretty good Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fendervg 33 Posted December 12, 2020 Any electronics/electric supply store (try Radionics, Maplins now gone) will have something suitable. Some even have an opening for the wiring to go through, with a bushed screw type fitting to hold them in place and sealed. I'll take a picture of the one I have on my car the next time the bonnet is open - this is the best pic I have of it before fitting, years old - this was a "hybrid" loom made using OEM connectors, waterproof box and extra insulation, with an eBay bought loom as a starting point: I guess there's lots of ways to do it - some of those marine relay enclosures look very suitable, or there is plenty of heavy duty mil spec vehicle electrics stuff around. I think this is one of the reasons why the quality looms with decent gauge wiring, proper wrapping and insulation, OE connectors and weatherproof enclosures are much more expensive - then there is number of relays. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted December 12, 2020 Im wondering if this would big big enough to take the relays. https://www.mdnsupplies.co.uk/shop/splashproof-plug-cover.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted December 12, 2020 56 minutes ago, fendervg said: Any electronics/electric supply store (try Radionics, Maplins now gone) will have something suitable. Some even have an opening for the wiring to go through, with a bushed screw type fitting to hold them in place and sealed. I'll take a picture of the one I have on my car the next time the bonnet is open - this is the best pic I have of it before fitting, years old - this was a "hybrid" loom made using OEM connectors, waterproof box and extra insulation, with an eBay bought loom as a starting point: I guess there's lots of ways to do it - some of those marine relay enclosures look very suitable, or there is plenty of heavy duty mil spec vehicle electrics stuff around. I think this is one of the reasons why the quality looms with decent gauge wiring, proper wrapping and insulation, OE connectors and weatherproof enclosures are much more expensive - then there is number of relays. Thanks but cant fins a box like that - could do with one that opens up and closes around the relays as loom all ready constructed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanl82 23 Posted December 12, 2020 I've had a genuine battery bag fitted to mine for years with no issues either. My relays are stuck with Velcro to the front of the battery and covered by the bag and I've never had an issue with water ingress and the bag getting damp or wet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g0ldf1ng3r 15 Posted December 14, 2020 ahhh poop my loom still hasnt arrived yet - i hope it hasnt got lost along the way 😞 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cressa 44 Posted December 14, 2020 2 hours ago, g0ldf1ng3r said: ahhh poop my loom still hasnt arrived yet - i hope it hasnt got lost along the way 😞 How does that happen!!! The man that sorts it all doesn't receive his, NOooo. Keep us posted 👀 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Cressa said: How does that Sounds locl happen!!! The man that sorts it all doesn't receive his, NOooo. Keep us posted 👀 Sounds like his local postie is a member on here, post is crazy at the moment tbf. Edited December 14, 2020 by Keyo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g0ldf1ng3r 15 Posted December 15, 2020 17 hours ago, Cressa said: How does that happen!!! The man that sorts it all doesn't receive his, NOooo. Keep us posted 👀 ha ha ha!!! thankfully it was there waiting when i got home from work last night 😄 they looks great & cant wait to fit it when i get chance! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites