Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
onlyG60ing

G60 vs MERCEDES 320.

Recommended Posts

Yesterday I was drag racing with some freinds I smoked a couple bmw 320's,and a maxima,but when I raced with a Mercedes E320 , I think it was 1993-or 1994 not sure!? he beat me, I am still trying to get accustomed to my corrado, I can only feel it boost on the second gear till the forth.but yesterday when i was racing I was on my fifth gear And reached 185~190 kmh and it felt like this is the top speed of the car . and I know that it can go faster. the only thing I am missingin my car is an intercooler, which I plan to install tomorow , since yesterday I am planning

to spend a grand$ in mods in the car any suggestions,and can you post the cars you drag raced with and SMOKED with your corrado g60.did any one race with a merc. e320.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

what you have to remember too is that merc E320's are putting out about 220bhp in standard trim and of course oodles of torque,and also the majority of them will be slush-boxes so their in-gear acceleration can be quite devastating even considering the fairly hefty kerbweight that they carry........though i would have thought you should have had the edge on a standing start

 

then again considering your engine probably is not as efficient as it should be(no intercooler etc) and also the 93> E320's performance figures are

 

 

Mercedes E320 auto....autocar road-test 30/06/93

top speed...................142mph

0-60...........................7.0 secs

30-70(kickdown).........6.5 secs

50-70(kickdown).........3.9secs(to give you an idea...thats 0.2 secs slower than a Mclaren F1 :shock: :shock: :shock: )

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You know what they say, - there's no substitute for litres. Having said that, i did whoop a boxter on a duel carriageway the other day. - We both went off fairly rapidly in 1st and 2nd then he's decided to try and get rid of me in 3rd. As it hit 13psi my 1980's hatchback did me proud and saw the porka back into my rearview mirror. I know they're not that quick, but i just tell people i raped a porsche! :lol:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think they are listed as being a fraction under 7 seconds to sixty, but as we know, the gearbox on a G60 prohibits it from ever doing any really impressive 0-60's. However, drop down a gear with a decent chip and pulley on your side and i think you'd be surprised on how well the midrange compares...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Yesterday I was drag racing with some freinds I smoked a couple bmw 320's,and a maxima,but when I raced with a Mercedes E320 , I think it was 1993-or 1994 not sure!? he beat me, I am still trying to get accustomed to my corrado, I can only feel it boost on the second gear till the forth.but yesterday when i was racing I was on my fifth gear And reached 185~190 kmh and it felt like this is the top speed of the car . and I know that it can go faster. the only thing I am missingin my car is an intercooler, which I plan to install tomorow , since yesterday I am planning

to spend a grand$ in mods in the car any suggestions,and can you post the cars you drag raced with and SMOKED with your corrado g60.did any one race with a merc. e320.

 

If you don't have an intercooler fitted, you will be well down on power. Fit the biggest front mounted intercooler you can get with unrestricted pipework. You won't have anymore hassle from E320's.

Despite the performance figures quoted for the E320 - they are not that quick. They handle like barges, a design fault means that they have several flat-spots through the rev range and I wouldn't get one if it was free !! The ONLY advantage of the E320 is the superb 5-speed auto transmission. This transmission changes it's own shift pattern, depending on how it's being driven !!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

And that Mercedes 3.2 litre V6 is sweet.. a friend of mine has a nice CLK320 which can certainly cover ground at a surprising rate despite the size and weight of it.

 

Though as you said, the suspension on the cars can be entertaining as its designed to be a cruiser, not a racer.. the thing does wallow a bit and the traction control has a fit if you put your foot down going into corners.. so whilst it has the edge on the straights, you'll leave it behind on corners with very little effort.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You're right Jim, V6 3.2 aluminum alloy Merc engine is much lighter & more powerful than the older straight-6 3.2 cast iron lump that "onlyG60ing" would have been racing against.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
are boxters really that slow?...id never have dared race one

 

The 2.5 version is not particularly fast but the newer 2.7 and the 3.2 Boxter S are much quicker. The Boxter never has been about straight line performance, that's what Porsche have the 911 for, but more for sublime handling, build quality and value (for a Porsche).

 

Kev

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

the only thing I am missingin my car is an intercooler

 

if you're pushing your car that hard without an intercooler.. and repeatedly over several runs getting everything real nice and hot.. i'm surprised you didn't blow apart your engine or else the ECU is pulling out some seriously timing. does the car feel like its pulling out power at higher rpms? ..or do you mean you have the stock IC in there still and are waiting on a big one?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You'll nail a boxster 2.5 and possibly a 2.7. A 3.2 will eat your breakfast. I've got a VR6 and a Boxster s3.2. Boxster is awesome. :D

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

does the car feel like its pulling out power at higher rpms?

I currently dont have any intercooler in my car, I was planning to install a large front mounted one, but I could'nt find anyone who sells the intercooler along with the aluminuim pipes.you see, I live in Lebanon and there arent a lot of corrado's here, The best thing I could find was the stock intercooler,and now I really dont know what to do, should I settle for the stock IC or get a bigger one. could any one tell me the difference between the large IC-and the stock one? and if any one knows where I can order a large IC-along with the Alum.Pipes from abroad(with reasnoble price). who also can ship to lebanon I would be greatful.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I currently dont have any intercooler in my car, I was planning to install a large front mounted one, but I could'nt find anyone who sells the intercooler along with the aluminuim pipes.you see, I live in Lebanon and there arent a lot of corrado's here, The best thing I could find was the stock intercooler,and now I really dont know what to do, should I settle for the stock IC or get a bigger one. could any one tell me the difference between the large IC-and the stock one? and if any one knows where I can order a large IC-along with the Alum.Pipes from abroad(with reasnoble price). who also can ship to lebanon I would be greatful.

 

Best thing to do is what I'm currently doing :-

 

Get a suitable intercooler core (mine's from a Merc C-class). Have some aluminum header tanks custom made & welded to the core. Have some aluminum alloy pipework custom bent to shape by a local engineering company & get hold of some Samco hoses to join it all together.

 

You WILL notice a substantial increase in power if you use a system like this as opposed to no intercooler at all.

 

Maybe a month or two before I have mine completed. I will be posting pictures, dimensions & instructions when I'm finished.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

My mate had a 320 Merc and it could out accelerate my VR6 which had an above average VR performance, so i fitted a Vortech supercharger and nitrous. Nuff said!

Why do people buy those little 1.8L 8v G60s when there are lots or VRs about for sale, then they can have a propper car! :-D

 

 

Chris

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Why do people buy those little 1.8L 8v G60s when there are lots or VRs about for sale, then they can have a propper car! :-D

 

Chris

 

Because the G60 is a good engine.

 

Too true regarding the VR availability, 5 pages of them on Autotrader, prices rangine from £2,500 for K reg to £9000 for a Storm. Average price for a L/M reg is £4K.

 

Kev

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Why do people buy those little 1.8L 8v G60s when there are lots or VRs about for sale, then they can have a propper car! :-D

 

I suppose that would depend on your idea of a "proper car".

 

Porsche 911 turbo, AC Cobra (427 cubic inch model with twin Paxton superchargers), DE-Thomaso Pantera, all spring to mind.

 

I bought my G60 because I enjoy fooling around with cars. The G60 engine is very tunable and this is why I bought it. I could quite easily have bought a VR6 (or a Porsche 911 Turbo, for that matter) but I chose not to. My choice was in no way financially influenced, I've spent 7k on it since easter when I bought it and plan to spend about another 2k. I do actually like my Corrado and plan to keep it for a few years.

 

BTW

I'm currently looking to buy a Triumph TR6 or maybe a Stag to restore/tune - so if any of you have one, send me an email.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Why do people buy those little 1.8L 8v G60s when there are lots or VRs about for sale, then they can have a propper car!

 

...wish i could get a VR6, if it meant saving upto 3k+ i think i would push my self for it, cut back on everything for a year or so....BUT im a 21 yr old student, small jobs and no NCD :? i think trying to insure a 1.8 16v is going to be a challenge!

(bearing insurance is every year not just a one off)

But trust me one day !!!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Focus on your studies mate, get a good job and then get any car you want.

 

The VR is not insurance friendly. You need a good few years bonus and age under your belt before it becomes viable.

 

Kev

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yeah i just got a corrado 1.8 16v, couldnt really afford a vr6 but even if i could id still opt for the 1.8 16v as its the most insurance friendly of the range still paying a lot though 112 pound a month for 12 months (20yr old, printer), was thinking of getting the head reconditioned as ive heard it needs doin after 100k, and mines done 120k, runs sweet as a nut but like to make sure that engines gonna hold together when my right foot suddenly gets heavier, what kinda prices am i looking at for it to be reconditioned? where can i get it done? how long will the head be away for? and finally has anyone opted to have some magic worked on there head to make there C faster?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Just looked at insurance quote, and i think im going to save for the G60, Tesco qutoed £1300 and im guessing that i could find it cheaper if i lookes around a little!!

 

So i'll prob be posting after one in a month or two, when i get my moneys together and pass plus done, (not just for insurance) so watch this space! ..well not this particular one

 

Andy

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Mine's currently (until November) £1600 fully comp.

 

34 yrs old & 9 points

 

Oooooh, that smarts.... :shock:

 

I'm paying £850 at the moment for my G60 with upto 250BHP, body/suspension/wheel mods and no milage limits AND my golf 1600 Driver (which is limited milage?!? :? )....

 

I've no points (god knows how, but I LUURRRVVVEEE my radar detectors!) and 5 years NCB with a total write off costing 6K just over 3 years ago...

 

I'm a 27 year old Broadcast (radio) engineer which always bumps the premium up 'cos they assume that I'm going to have famous people in the car (which I sometimes do, but I'm not telling them that... Noddy Holder reckons my G60 is "Scarey, mental fun!" :lol: )

 

When you next insure your C, make sure you mention that you read "the golf", "PVW" and any other VW mag you can think of, Join CCGB, club GTI, VWOCGB etc,etc,etc and make sure you've pointed out which shows you've been to within the last year.... It knocked over 25% off what I was quoted when I mentioned that lot, and, apparently, I've got "just about" every discount going now!!! 8) :lol: If they don't discount for that lot, tell 'em to go and jump and have a word with HIC, FLUX, Greenlight etc etc etc who specialise in this kind of car... 8)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Gonna start shopping around during October - I'll be telling my current insurance company to go and fu*k themselves... :lol:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I'll be telling my current insurance company to go and fu*k themselves... :lol:

 

I always enjoy that conversation whenever I've had it... Kinda makes things seem less hassle... :lol: 8) :wink: Doesn't seem quite the same with HIC 'cos they are always the cheapest... :roll: :D

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Sign in to follow this  

×
×
  • Create New...