jprocter 10 Posted January 7, 2020 Hi, I have an issue where I don’t get spark on cylinder 2 & 5. Now the car hasn’t run for a while and various other issues, so I put on a new coilpack... it’s had running issues with both coil packs but I’m not sure if the same issue! I checked where the wire that powers 2/5 and it goes to pin 54 on the Ecu.... with ignition on I get 9.5v to that wire... is this correct?? Before I buy another coilpack I want to make sure I haven’t got a wiring issue! Many Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GlosterOx 0 Posted January 7, 2020 Are the HT Leads all OK? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jprocter 10 Posted January 7, 2020 Yes, I’ve tried different ones on there and never get anything out of 2 and 5. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fla 9 Posted January 8, 2020 Just to check, have you taken the leads out when the car is running to see if there is a spark at the plug? Have you also checked keeping the lead without a plug near to the head to see if you get a spark at the lead? Is the coilpack cracked at all? If so, it could be damaged internally. Post up where you're located i'm sure there will be someone local who might be able to help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jprocter 10 Posted January 8, 2020 Hi, Yes took the leads off 1 by one and made them arc on the inlet manifold. 4 spark and 2 don’t... The coilpack is a topran and new.... unfortunately the car has been off the road years. Should I buy a new bremi coilpack or do the ford conversion? I’m in North Yorkshire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1xshaunx1 27 Posted January 8, 2020 I have used Bermi coil packs and have not had a problem. Torpan aren’t the best by some distance. I would test from the coil pack one by one with the same lead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dr_mat 0 Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) The coil pack has only three coils, so each vertical pair of outlets should spark at the same time. Sounds like you have a DOA Topran coil pack to me. EDIT - if you have the same issue with two coil packs it does seem more likely that you might have an issue with the HT trigger output on the ECU. The coil packs are simple, they usually fail because of heat cycling so even a new old stock one is unlikely to be faulty. As per the grouping on the coil pack itself the ECU has three output trigger lines. I don't know which pins those are but that would be where to look next I would say. Edited January 9, 2020 by dr_mat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jprocter 10 Posted January 9, 2020 Hi thanks for your response. The problem is I changed a load of parts when I took the original coilpack off (and threw it away!) I then left the car for a while in the garage. I have checked the 3 pins on the Ecu and I’m getting 9.5 at each... pin 54 is the one I believe should trigger 2/5 cylinders. I’m also getting 9.5 at the connector so I’m sure it must be coilpack.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dox 23 Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) Anyone near you that can loan you a known good coil pack? https://www.autozone.com/repairguides/Volkswagen-Eurovan-2000-03/Firing-Orders/Firing-Orders/_/P-0996b43f803830c7 Edited January 9, 2020 by Dox Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dr_mat 0 Posted January 9, 2020 Not a bad price here, but no clue if/when they are likely to come back in stock. https://www.vwheritage.com/021905106-ignition-coil-vr6-vw-spare Otherwise I usually find at least a couple on ebay from a 1990's VW VR6 of some description. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dox 23 Posted January 9, 2020 Not a bad price here, but no clue if/when they are likely to come back in stock. https://www.vwheritage.com/021905106-ignition-coil-vr6-vw-spare Otherwise I usually find at least a couple on ebay from a 1990's VW VR6 of some description. Its just a Topran (hover the cursor over the left hand side of the image), so available from other sources for less Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fendervg 32 Posted January 9, 2020 Haven't had great experiences with Topran in the past myself - I'd go for Bosch, Bremi or Beru if buying a coil pack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) Vince at Stealth racing fitted a Bremi 20132 on mine so must be good as he wouldn't use junk. I imagine Beru is the best one out there. I would stay well clear of that Topran garbage. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BREMI-Ignition-Coil-VW-TRANSPORTER-CARAVELLE-2-8-VR6-2-8-VR-6/233317690780?epid=1520056557&hash=item3652d16d9c:g:G5UAAOSwle1dW5e4 Edited January 9, 2020 by Keyo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dr_mat 0 Posted January 10, 2020 But they do WORK. For a while, at least. I do suspect you have other problems. There's Hella ones on ebay for ~£130 too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1xshaunx1 27 Posted November 20, 2021 I’m tipping with no response after it was the topcrap coil pack causing your issues Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
