The definitive "what exhaust?" discussion thread!

[Riley 0]

G60 with standard system except for decat pipe. :D

Raspy...and no drony boomy type noise on the motorway etc...just the whistling etc up front :lol:

 

[red_baron 0]

Hi everyone...

 

Sorry if the answer to this question already exists buried somewhere in this thread - A few times the VW OE exhaust is mentioned as a replacement for the original but does anyone know if its still available - either as a whole or in component parts?

 

Cheers

[Kevin Bacon 5]

For what engine?

 

For the VR6, the answer is yes. It's about £350 worth from the dealer though and it weighs a tonne. So heavy in fact, the hanger brackets snap off at the welds on the mid box (aka suitcase).

 

It's made by Liestritz and is extremely high quality, except the aforementioned lack of weld on the hangers!

[red_baron 0]

Yeah its for a VR6... surprise surprise my existing one has snapped on the n/s of the "suitcase" - its sagging a little at the moment. Still it has done nearly 112,000 miles! Can the rear section be bought from VW... or was that price just for the rear section?

[Kevin Bacon 5]

Yeah, common that. Many people weld the hangers back on with a lot of extra weld, which has limited success.

 

GSF used to sell the mid and rear silencers for £120+VAT. It was a genuine part too and all one piece, meaning the axle needs dropping to fit it properly.

 

Then all you'd need is the post cat silencer / expansion box to complete the system, which GSF don't sell, but isn't too horrendous from the dealers at £80.

 

Given the enormous weight and expense of the OE system (if GSF no longer sell the mid/rear section), I'd be inclinded to looking at an aftermarket one.

 

SuperSprint is quiet, stock style tailpipe.

Ditto the Magnex.

Or Techtnonics in America do a very nice system which I am running at the moment. Doesn't weigh hardly anything and is extremely quiet.

[red_baron 0]

I'm having to effect a temporary repair at the mo due to shortage of funds and an MOT & road tax due at the end of the month... I've had a quote from John at Pipewerx for a cat-back custom stealth exhaust in stainless for £350+VAT. Personally I don't think this is bad (even though its a lot of cash) but what do other people think about custom ones?

[trevor 0]

make one . . got to be the best . . .

[DOGG 0]

G-Werks do a nice system for Corrado. Sounds sweet to boot.

[Kevin Bacon 5]

I've had a quote from John at Pipewerx for a cat-back custom stealth exhaust in stainless for £350+VAT. Personally I don't think this is bad (even though its a lot of cash) but what do other people think about custom ones?

 

Hmmm. Stainless has gone up 10% in America, so looks like the UK has followed suit! That is a lot for 2 silencers, 1 bend and 1 straight. Is it proper 304 stainless?

 

So called "custom" exhausts are OK if the silencer design and craftmanship are clearly leagues ahead of the competition, but if like most places they're just welding together 2 universal silencers, a bend and a straight, then personally I'd get an off the shelf product. You can't beat robot made consistency and performance.

[trevor 0]

I'm having to effect a temporary repair at the mo due to shortage of funds and an MOT & road tax due at the end of the month... I've had a quote from John at Pipewerx for a cat-back custom stealth exhaust in stainless for £350+VAT. Personally I don't think this is bad (even though its a lot of cash) but what do other people think about custom ones?

 

 

i got my pipe from Pipewerx .and made this system my self . if i lived closer or could of got the car to them i would of thaken that price . sound's good to me . the middle box on corrado is not really needed in my book . this is how it sound .on the 20v turbo

http://s155.photobucket.com/albums/s295 ... nt=car.flv

[g60jbwr 0]

just had a full de-cat system from pipe-werx , it is a 2.5" system , absolute top job sounds awesome would recomend them , could feel the difference as soon as i drove it , seemed to release a lot of power from a standard g60 , and a nice rumble at idle & a howl under acceleration that can only make you smile ! :D

[Rimshot 0]

Powerflow full system, with cat. Sounds really, really nice on my 1.8 without being too obtrusive. Just a medium loud, fruity burble on idle but it wails beautifully when I give it some stick. Sweet exhaust

[lj16v 0]

Car; VR6

Sysyem; Magnex Cat back (oval tailpipe, very O.E. but better, really tidies the back up)

Me thinks; Really pleased, when i put it on i could'nt tell that it was any louder at tick over than the original (although maybe the original had got louder. was pretty kackered!). It is a little louder under load than original, and certainly louder than original when you boot it, but in a good way and not a chavy nova kinda way.

on the motorway it's just fine, not droany/boomy, hardly notice it. I was worried about noise when i bought it as i had a Scorpion back box on my old 2.0 16V which was terible, really noisy, awfull fit etc :( But the Magnex fits brilliantly :D

[ADZ_VR6 0]

Can anyone help firstly picked up a stainles VW VR6 exhaust off here last week, 1:how hard is it to drop the back axle, is it better to get a flange put on think i can get a friend to do it. 2: little bit worried about the braket braking off as it suprised me with the weight of it, anyone any ideas on strengthening? 3:i've been looking at raceland sixbranch manifolds and de-cat pipe on ebay, anyone got one fitted there cheaper than anything else i've seen but i want to do job right so not really bothered about cost. i've look all the way through this thread and there no ones referd to them, sorry if ive missed anything but my eyes went funny by the end of it cheers fellas :?

[Martyn_McG 0]

i never knew vw did a stainless item? sure its not the standard steel one, because that has a stainless tail pipe section on it.

[ADZ_VR6 0]

this is the link to the thread, i didn't think they would do one till i came accros it

 

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=63384

 

still like to no if anyone got a raceland manifold, anyone......... :(

[MrTeddyBear 0]

The car is a 94 2.0 16V. The exhaust a Magnex cat back system. Never has fitted properly ( the rear suspension thump's it over pot holes & speed humps)

oh yes took it back once to TSR in Bridgewater where purchased from and they still didn't fit it properly. Exhaust note is ok with possibly a slight increase in power. This is back in 2003 by the way; car has been off the road ever since.

 

TB :(

[Kevin Bacon 5]

i never knew vw did a stainless item? sure its not the standard steel one, because that has a stainless tail pipe section on it.

 

The VW system is stainless pipe throughout and mild steel silencers. It's a hybrid system they and SuperSprint have used for years. The benefits of this kind of system are the long life of stainless tubing with the superior silencing properties of mild steel.

 

To fit the rear section is a relatively meaty job. You can pull the rear axle hinge bolts and hang it on the dampers, but the nasty bit is detaching the brake lines from the compensator valve......yuk. They will be seized, rusted, and will break.....yuk...again. Budget for a new compensator valve (about £75) and possibly some brake line repairs if the connectors all round off / snap, but that's not too expensive.

 

Most folk opt to snip the pipe between mid and rear boxes and rejoin it over the axle, but tbh I would drop the axle, fix the rear compensator and replace the axle bushes as they all need doing eventually.

[weetos 0]

Hi All

 

do you have to take the inlet manifold off to get at the exhaust manifold. I'm replacing original with a 4 -1

 

I do know on a mk1 gti it can be done but its a bit of a t**t.

 

any advice great fully recived

 

Ta

Lee

[kuipers23 0]

Just bought a Magnex exhaust from Venom motorsport for £330 including VAT and delivery.

 

Had it fitted this morning at Heratige VW which cost £74.

 

All went on okay. Sounds nice and I swear has made my car more nippy!

 

I was quoted by VW £505 for a new exaust and fitting. I think they use the Borsal exhaust. This was previously on my car and basically fell apart. It wasn't even that old.

 

So for £105 cheaper I got a Magnex and had it fitted to.

 

My advice is by your own exhaust and get VW to fit it.

 

De cat pipe next!

[Critical_Mass 10]

Or get your own exhaust and get your local VW specialist to do it ;)

[weetos 0]

Or get your own exhaust and get your local VW specialist to do it ;)

 

well iv'e just spoke to 2 local vw specialists and they want £180+ to fit my manifold :shock: :shock:

 

so me thinks i'm gonna do it my self :?

any tips???

[Ginger60 0]

Or get your own exhaust and get your local VW specialist to do it ;)

 

well iv'e just spoke to 2 local vw specialists and they want £180+ to fit my manifold :shock: :shock:

 

so me thinks i'm gonna do it my self :?

any tips???

 

Right well here I can advise you, I rebuilt my G60 engine a while back, it depends how much experience you have with cars, it can be done in the engine bay its very tight & requires you bending to the very back of the engine with limited room you may have to modify your tools to fit. Ensure the gasket faces are clean!

 

Alternatively you can drop the engine out completely as the VW manufactures would of built the engine before putting in the car. Its a big job but you can get on & sort out all the other problems you have been meaning to do.

 

I would advise renewing the studs & nuts on the mating part of the block whilst doing that, try borrow a torque wrench if you can, its all fun to learn anyway... good luck

 

Regards,

[weetos 0]

Wot a nightmare I've had to change stock manifold for a 4 branch header things to remove are

1. o/s drive shaft

2. o/s inner cv joint guard

3. fuel rail

4. inlet manifold

not to mention 2 manifold studs sheering off on the head b*****ls!! but it gets worse, their both below the machined face with only 1-2 internal threads showing :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

 

so looks like i gotta find right angled drill to drill then use an extractor or head off or engine out.

 

unless anyone else has any other ideas????????

[Ginger60 0]

You will be able to get to the bits easier with the head off the car.

 

Word to the wise, renew all the studs & gaskets, they are cheap enough anyway. Use bolt shifter like plus-gas before attempting removal of corroded ones.

 

The head uses expansion/twist bolts which when torqued up lock the head down, they are not to be re-used! Worth getting the head re worked while your at it, a worn valve guide or two will make a rattly sound & effect power. Its not outside a reasonable budget to get sorted...