Honda civic - type R race

[golfg60 0]

Last night i had a Honda civic type-r sat up my arse down a dual carriageway near Reading. I wasn't going to bother racing it because i thought it would eat my corrado alive. Anyway after a mile or so i changed my mind, dropped it down a gear and booted it. He didn't gain an inch on me at all. How is that? I thought these cars were quick. Does anybody have any experience with these and am i "bigging myself up" for no reason. I think my G60 is standard, apart from a cat by-pass. It does feel quicker than a standard G60 but no quicker than my Vr6 golf.

Surely my corrado can't compete with the likes of Type-R's????

[dr_mat 0]

Correct. I'd be more thinking along the lines of "I didn't lose him" than "he didn't gain on me" if he was behind - after all, there's only so close that you want to get to the back end of a 10 year old VW driven by someone who's driving erratically ... ;)

I would expect a well driven CTR to lose a standard G60 though, he's got nearly 50bhp on ya!

[Rustynuts 0]

I would day that you caught him on your torque curve, bear in mind that he will be having to rev the nuts off his to get really motoring

[Riley 0]

yep,if the guy cant drive then the type r wont be that quick :wink:

 

neil.

[chrishill 0]

i'd expect a vr6 to have problems with a well driven CTR, so I'd say either the guy couldnt drive it or he was just keeping up with you. Having said that I'd have thought a vr6 would have struggled with a clio sport or and s3 and i've dusted both...so whos to say?

[craigowl 0]

Not everyone is young and foolish enough to want to race on the public highway.

 

This week I am in the middle of being cross-examined in the Supreme Court. The case involves a head on crash, possibly on black ice. No racing was involved, but one 18-your old girl from our town was killed and her pal, now in a wheelchair, is extensively paralysed. Both families and friends are devastated and will be for the rest of their lives.

 

Sorry for the lecture - it's great to be young and have overpowered cars, but work hard to be a person with prudence and balanced judgement.

 

If you like life-threatening excitement, go mountaineering or join the military, don't race on the public highway please!!

[g60_Pete 0]

i agree with craig, racing is for the track.

i always try my best to be a sensible driver and people keep driving into me.... (maybe its my face?)

its all very well driving fast, but well yeah what he said

[golfg60 0]

I agree, there is a time and a place for that. But i'm not going to lie to people on here and say that i never put my foot down every now and then on a clear bit of road because i'm sure most people on here do as well. This just so happened to be on an empty carriage way, late sunday evening, clear visibiliy....sorry if it effends people but i am going to give it a bit of stick, thats what i bought the car for. I'm not saying i drive like a d*ckhead through towns, public places or built up places, i can clearly see the dangers there!

[g60_Pete 0]

that bit of open dual carriageway always makes me fruity :D

[craigowl 0]

The attractions of fast cars and driving don't always diminish with old age, and we greybeards can enjoy the luxury of having to pay only £214 fully comp. to drive a VR6 simply because as old gits we are endowed with more wisdom, prudence, cowardice, lack of bottle, desire for self-preservation - call it what you will - and are therefore, low-risk, even if some of our cars smell of wee. :wink:

 

On the other side of the coin, all you guys in your early to mid-20s (I was one, too) have to pay horrendously high insurance premiums because of the fact that testosterone, inexperience, poorer judgement and a liking for alcoholic refreshments, cause a higher proportion of you in that age group to drive irresponsibly and are "high risk".

 

Every so often on this forum, a tediously long thread will appear where guys are mumping on and on about being hit with high insurance quotes/premiums. Do they not know that insurance companies pay out sums of several millions of pounds every time some driver seriously maims someone such that they require a high standard of medical and domestic care for the rest of their lives, and that the odds are most in favour of a young man having caused the accident?

 

Bookmakers, loss adjusters and insurance companies generally have a good grasp of the real world and set the odds accordingly.

 

We can all help to make the country a safer, less-expensive one to motor in if we screw the nut and give ourselves a nudge each time we are thinking of making a rash manoeuvre - and I include myself here.

 

Remember, through one moment of rashness, the person you kill or maim may well be the most wonderful, best loved father/mother/son or daughter in the town. How can we have that on our conscience?

[blackcat 0]

even if some of our cars smell of wee. :wink:

 

LOL :lol:

 

Seriously though I agree with you Craigowl (About driving too fast not about the wee comment!)

[andy 0]

Unless I'm mistaken, speed was not mentioned, I would hardly call a quick blast on an open dual carraigeway a problem. If anything it is exactly the place for it, definately not in a built up area or single lane road where overtaking comes into the equation. I really wonder why some people own a sports coupe if they're going to drive it like a supermini. As for the comments about young people and their liking for alcoholic refreshments causing them to drive irresponsibly, I think not. Alcohol related incidents are less of a problem for the younger generation of driver who has grown up with massive drink driving awareness. It's a well known fact that the older people who still think the drink driving rules are the same as they were when they passed their test 30 or 40 years ago are responsible for the majority of alcohol related driving problems.

 

I would not condone a rash decision from anyone, especially from someone behind the wheel of a car.

[JT 0]

andy, could'nt have said it better myself, can't help driving to the conditions and not the situations is'nt a bad way of thinking when behind the wheel. just my 2p worth,

 

it's these kids getting round towns far too fast that get me down

:mad:

[bristolbaron 10]

:offtopic1:

 

there will never be an agreement of personal opinions of all people on the forum, let alone the rest of the world.

One thing i would say for the forum is we all seem a decent bunch with our heads screwed on and only tend to put the foot down in sensible places. the odd person who brags about a 100mph+ run tends to get slated.

It is widely excepted that the younger driver is more likely to make rash decisions whilst driving. I have overtaken a few times on my 'A' road journey to work and later thought 'that could have waited'

I would also acknowledge andy's comments about the older driver and alcohol. most of my friends (early 20's) won't even have one beer and drive, however my boss, dad, stepdad and many others i know in the 40-60 age bracket, all decent members of society, still think its acceptable to have a couple of stellas before getting in the car.

[craigowl 0]

bristolbaron

my boss, dad, stepdad and many others i know in the 40-60 age bracket, all decent members of society, still think its acceptable to have a couple of stellas before getting in the car.

 

At last - a generation clash. I was beginning to think you were all far too gracious.

 

Personally, I cannot relate to the above quote. None of my friends/contemporaries/work colleagues seem to do this. Are your old boys all "cool", or do we need to get a life?

 

I have only ever on one occasion many years ago had a drink and driven, because I have always felt that you need all your faculties at 100% - even then you can possibly cause an accident it is such a high risk activity. (We can see that from the colossal insurance quotes described on this forum.)

 

I do agree, however, that most people on the forum - many of them in their 20s - seem to be a decent bunch with good jobs, their heads screwed on and would probably not touch even one drink - much as I and my closest friends behaved in our 20's. It seems the Corrado attracts the more sensible young driver who appreciates the (mostly) technical excellence and style of the vehicle rather than its capability for roaring past other vehicles on the road.

 

Apologies for any offence, I would not really come on the forum if I thought its contributors were selfish ignorant boors and boy racers.

 

It's a tired old cliche, but I am sure we will all be in agreement that if the debate saves one person from serious injury, or worse, it will have been worth it.

[blackcat 0]

I think that in every generation there are people that are foolish enough to drink and drive, however most of the people that I know that do it are in the 40-60 age bracket.

My dad did it for years and then last year got caught and lost his licence, I have no sympathy for him, it serves him right and now he has to ride his bike everywhere. I am glad he got caught before he hurt himself or anyone else.

[Kevin Bacon 5]

Having driven a couple of CTRs, they are not as quick as people think they are, certainly not as quick as their owners would LIKE to think they are.

 

They're not bad for the money, but they're not a performance bargain either.....the Clio 182 holds that title, which is far superior to drive than the CTR.

 

The CTR's suspension is too hard, the engine is too coarse, thrashey and noisy and it's hardly the torquiest of engines, either. I was bored after 10 minutes behind the wheel of one. Sure it can keep up with most things if you nail it to death.....but doing so guzzles oil, petrol and makes you look a prick.

 

This VTEC kick is non existent. The engine just makes more noise and gets louder. It's not a patch on BMW's twin-VANOS.

 

So, a G60 is more than capable of humbling a CTR.....

 

And as for the lectures on speeding/racing....this is a car forum and nobody is cleaner than a preacher's sheets.

We all take responsibility for our own actions, it is not our place to condemn people for taking their own risks, unless it affects us directly.

[g60_Pete 0]

*off topic*

my mate took me out in his clio 172 not long ago, magnex exhuast viper induction kit and a chip, felt about as fast as my standard g60. just louder and more obnoxious.

 

and i have to say keep humbling those ctr's they look gay! plus wan*ers drive them.

[Kevin Bacon 5]

and i have to say keep humbling those ctr's they look gay! plus wan*ers drive them.

 

Yep....the people that can't afford Subaru Impreza STIs or Litchfield Type 25s...so buy a CTR and think they've made it to the top of the performance Jap car ladder.

 

Saw 3 of them during my lunch hour on Friday (I was on foot) and the funniest was this young bloke in a Red one. He approached a zebra crossing, saw some girls, wound his window down and started revving the engine and tapping the door (hard) to the that "Bang bang" dance tune (Audio bullies?).....he looked such a knob and the girls crossing the zebra just laughed at him :lol:

 

He sped off and stayed in first for about 200 yards screaming the nuts of the engine (which sounded cr@p btw)....as he dissapeared round the bend, I saw the window going back up and the sounds lower in volume.....tail between leg big time 8)

[g60_Pete 0]

hahaheha

always the way with jap cars very few have nice sounding engines. alot sound very tinny and weak. the old crx sounded hot as does the nsx, but apart from that most sound naff. scoobs are good of course but the stigma attached to that car!!!!???!!

 

and im sure women are so impressed by some peenars revving up his "sports" car, does he not realise his girlfriend isnt interested and neither is anyone else!

[craigowl 0]

kevhaywire said

And as for the lectures on speeding/racing....this is a car forum

That is a lecture in itself kev!

 

Would have thought opinions on speeding/racing were more car-orientated than some of the stuff on here such as music, porny adverts/cartoons, etc?

[samm_cvr6 0]

I have driven a CTR hard for 500 miles when it first came out (friends!)

Well, if you hammer it, make no doubts, it is quick, quite a hard ride but the handling is good. It's the kind of car that shows it's merits the harder you drive it. Really not to my style tho, hence why I got a VR. Haven't tried the clio but I'm sure I would prefer a 172 cup or 182. But in a straight line it is easily as quick as a vr, go to santa pod and see for yourself.

[Rustynuts 0]

I reckon i would prefer a Leon 20vT 225 and Revo it, now that would make a CTR look silly. However, will stick with my slightly erratic G60 for the time being.

[Chris VR6nos 0]

craigowl, I'm not sure if i should say this but i shall!

Are you on the right forum?

I wonder about this from what was said.

 

I make no mistake about saying what i do, I have a moddified VR6 with a Vortech supercharger and Nitrous oxide injection fitted.

These mods are fitted for only 1 reason, and for that i make no appologies!

What i have noticed is that some people that have commented on this thread have also said that a VR should be used as a VR should! and that they enjoy the power and why not, why doesn't everyone that has a VR or any mods on thier car that don't use them to enjoy the extra fun it gives, go and get a Fiat Punto or something and stop preaching.

I'm 37 now and feel old that's for sure, maybe because of this i take it out in my car.

I have raced people on public roads and never been on a race track, the track has little on no attraction for me, i'm a street racer and that's me since i was 17, i have 9pts on my license, 3 of which are about to come off.

However i have to say that i am also responsible and do care so don't take my words the wrong way, as you don't know me but maybe we'll meet then you'll understand. OK i'm waffling now but these are my thoughts.

 

 

Chris

[Kevin Bacon 5]

But in a straight line it is easily as quick as a vr, go to santa pod and see for yourself.

 

As quick when driven by a determined driver, but not faster.

 

Been to the pod and saw several CTRs pulling mid to high 16s..... with smokey exhausts. They're really not all that.