Replacement Fuel Pump - VR6, 2015 and onwards

[VR6 South 0]

Chaps , sorry to put this post up . BUT . Can I have the correct link to the jp pump and can you confirm that the sender fits . I’ve had fuel problems today and I’m sure the pump is knackered. I need to order it now. Also , reading through this the pierburg is the early style ?, that’s what is on the car now , so I’m presuming the float will not fit the new pump .

JP’s Tech Dept advised me that they do not manufacture a 4 bar pump suitable for a VR6. This is why I went for the John’s Pump in the end. The VDO sender fits the john’s Pump perfectly.

[Keyo 47]

Thank you Fender , where would I find the later style sender?.

 

 

Jon has a VDO pump for sale brand new, and says he will take offers.

 

Cheapest person selling Sender and arrives in a few days.

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-GENUINE-VDO-221-833-002-011Z-FUEL-LEVEL-SENDER-VW-WHOLESALE-PRICE-SALE/163183083932?epid=249158734&hash=item25fe78419c:g:dmAAAOSwNSxVW4D6&frcectupt=true

Edited May 27, 2019 by Keyo

[robrado974 1]

So both senders early or late fit ?.

My part is pierburg. 21289 15 2 223

535 919 051 A .

[Keyo 47]

JP’s Tech Dept advised me that they do not manufacture a 4 bar pump suitable for a VR6. This is why I went for the John’s Pump in the end. The VDO sender fits the john’s Pump perfectly.

 

This confirms that the JP one that VW Heritage was selling must of been a three bar so best with the JP of Johns.

[Keyo 47]

You cant buy a pierburg pump anymore therefore you have to buy a VDO (or 4 bar) pump and the VDO sender as your Pierburg sender will not fit the 4 bar pump.

Edited May 27, 2019 by Keyo

[fendervg 32]

Yeah, ebay for the VDO sender as above, that's where I got mine, although I'm sure you could also order it through any motor factors that sells VDO parts.

 

Not sure about your question above? The early sender will only fit an early Pierburg pump body, and the VDO one will only fit the later pump bodies. They are a completely different design where they clip on to the swirl pot.

[robrado974 1]

I think this is where my confusion is . I replaced my pump around 10 years ago with a second hand pump . I thought at the time it was a later style pump , from what I can gather it was an early pump .

[robrado974 1]

So a late style sender can be purchased from Heritage?.

[robrado974 1]

Sorry chaps . I should be sorting this when I am with it . Work is horrendous at the moment , I get so tired nothing seems to sink in lol . I’m thinking of buying Jon’s pump he has for sale but it doesn’t come with the sender. Mine being early won’t fit it .

[Keyo 47]

So the cheapest option you have is to buy the sender off ebay and the Johns pump , or alternatively cut a hole out of the chassis floor and do a Freddy Flinstone. I think all in that's under a £100 which is £250 cheaper then the JP pump and sender that VW Heritage was selling and by the sounds of it not even 4 bar,so your on to a winner.

Edited May 27, 2019 by Keyo

[VR6 South 0]

If I remember correctly the Pierburg is round where as the VDO is D shaped.

[fendervg 32]

This is the old Pierburg from my car - from above. The sender is the blue plastic part on the left, and clips in differently to the VDO style - the way the wiring terminates on the sender is also different.

[robrado974 1]

This pump looks completely different to mine . If only I could put pics up.

[robrado974 1]

So the cheapest option you have is to buy the sender off ebay and the Johns pump , or alternatively cut a hole out of the chassis floor and do a Freddy Flinstone. I think all in that's under a £100 which is £250 cheaper then the JP pump and sender that VW Heritage was selling and by the sounds of it not even 4 bar,so your on to a winner.

So buy Jon’s pump he is selling on here and get the late sender off of eBay ?. I’ve typed in corrado fuel pump sender / vdu , all that comes up is the pumps ?.

[Keyo 47]

So buy Jon’s pump he is selling on here and get the late sender off of eBay ?. I’ve typed in corrado fuel pump sender / vdu , all that comes up is the pumps ?.

 

Here is the cheapest place to get the sender.

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-GENUINE-VDO-221-833-002-011Z-FUEL-LEVEL-SENDER-VW-WHOLESALE-PRICE-SALE/163183083932?epid=249158734&hash=item25fe78419c:g:dmAAAOSwNSxVW4D6&frcectupt=true

[robrado974 1]

Thank you Keyo . I’m thinking of buying Jon’s pump he has for sale on here . This should fit it .

[Keyo 47]

Thank you Keyo . I’m thinking of buying Jon’s pump he has for sale on here . This should fit it .

 

I would Rob, as Jon says on his thread parts for sale, " open to offers " . Then you will have the best quality/stock pump and sender on the market for a VR6, should last 20 years.

 

Cheers.

[Dox 23]

I can't remember whether my car is fitted with a GSF or ECP pump, the car runs fine, either £70 or £64 with the current discount codes. The pump is 4+ years old and the car still fires up, its currently SORN

[robrado974 1]

Thanks for everyone’s input , it’s much appreciated. I’ve bought jons pump and the new VDU , off of eBay. Hopefully all will be well .

[Keyo 47]

Thanks for everyone’s input , it’s much appreciated. I’ve bought jons pump and the new VDU , off of eBay. Hopefully all will be well .

 

Good news glad you sorted it.

[robrado974 1]

I hope so keyo .

[Keyo 47]

Guys I have noticed this seller that I have used all ready is selling the VR6 VDO pump at a good price compared to sourcing elsewhere.

 

VDO 4 bar pump E22-041-060Z

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Siemens-VDO-Fuel-Pump-fits-Volkswagen-Passat-2-8-VR6-1988-1997-E22-041-060Z-NEW/372757028248?epid=249319123&hash=item56ca0cdd98:g:jZIAAOSwW4ddboAh

 

It says new old stock, I would email the seller and offer him £100 or less and say you can get it new still for £174.00 from Mister Auto.

 

 

Also cheapest for the Bosch Manifold Temperature sensor

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-Bosch-Temperature-Audi-MG-Rover-BMW-Porsche-VW-Sensor-0280130039-NEW/262035777918?fits=Model%3ACorrado&hash=item3d028ca97e:g:9zcAAOSwcF9UW3Qx

Edited November 4, 2019 by Keyo

[fendervg 32]

That's a good price for the pump - remember for an early VR with Pierburg pump you will need to buy the matching VDO sender as well.

 

I think I paid nearly 250 for mine new from VDO/Siemens.

[Ray1965 10]

Just a thought guys, would this fit on the Corrado VR6?

 

My son bought one for his MK2 project fitted with a mk3 VR6 fuel tank.

It works perfect with his 3.2 VR6 conversion so cant see why not?

 

Cheers

 

 

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fuel-Pump-Sender-Unit-3-4-Bar-Spare-VW-Golf-MK3-Cabriolet-Vento-PWM-775047A/302267788691?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

[ABV-VR6 12]

Ouff... I just read those 6 pages and there's so much back and forth that I'm kind of lost! Links don't work anymore, pictures don't show as well so it doesn't help either.
Fuel pump is one of the last thing in my to-do list. Mine is fine for now but I would like to buy one before I need it in the future and can't find it anymore or cost twice as much...
So on a late 95 VR6 2.9L 4 bar fuel system, if I resume:
1) The car came factory with a VDO pump/swirl pot E22-041-060Z. The VW part number is 1H0 919 651 Q
2) The car came factory with a VDO sender unit 221-833-002-011 C or Z (NOT 100% ON THIS ONE). The VW part number is 535 919 673 C
3) A VDO swirl pot will work with the OEM sender or VDO sender
4) Pierburg was fitted only on early VR's and NLA now. Pierburg sender will only work on Pierburg swirl pot
5) You can't find just the pump and unfortunately we need to buy the swirl pot with it.
6) Bosch ones are not 4 bar as described but 3 bar so not good.
7) JP GROUP makes one that works but usually they make cheap aftermarket parts (to me anyways)

Did I miss something or made a mistake trying to clarify all of that info?