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I've got both the manifold and the throttle body in for sale at the moment for £30 each, TB inc postage and manifold plus postage. £50 for both collected, depending on whereabouts in Sheffield you live I could be pretty close to you too as I'm about 5 minutes from M1 J30. No spare rocker cover though.

Oh dear, the day mine was registered 01/11/95 it was Gansta's Paradise by Coolio Feat. L.V. So I tried for something better on the day I bought it 11/09/2000 and came up with Lady by Modjo......I give up!!!

I have grey leather recaros, very nice they are too!

Although I've not started looking seriously at what size item I can squeeze under the slam panel I've been looking at the condenser driers that Autokool list on ebay for the various VAG models, something like this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SEAT-ALTEA-LEON-TOLEDO-MK3-A-C-CONDENSER-NEW-/400038988237?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5d242e89cd#ht_4155wt_1139 Which to me looks like it would kill two birds with one stone? My drier is currently squeezed under the right side arch liner where the carbon canister used to be and needs a hose to connect it to the condenser and then another hose back to the evaporator. Autokool are only up the road from me so I plan to visit with a tape measure one day and see what they can kit me out with! There seem to be loads of horror stories when it comes to brake bleeding and I've yet to have any problems with it....Get the car in the air but ensure the rear bias valve is fully loaded and then with an easi-bleed work rear left, rear right, front left, front right, ABS pump and finally the master cylinder and it's done. Half a dozen pumps on each one before topping up the brake fluid each time works a treat......or maybe I'm missing out the step that makes it difficult???

I know it's a long shot but I need a gearbox for my daughter's Lupo 1.4 and wondered if anybody might have one laying about they'd like to swap for some beer tokens??? Code is FFR, think they were used in Polos too.

If hawwy's not interested in the steelies and winter tyres I'll have them. Sorry, forget that. I'm looking for a set for my daughter's Leon and it has 195/65R15 as standard so yours would probably a bit too much of a drop......back to looking!

^^^^^^^^^^^^Tony beat me to it but I was going to say the same thing!^^^^^^^^^^

The cooling fan stays the same as original, three speeds controlled by the existing fan controller, assuming that is you have the later fan controller. The relay for the a/c compressor clutch is in there but not used even if you have Diavia a/c system as that has it's own relay, the fans run exactly the same as before except that if CC is on the fans are never stopped and will run at minimum of speed 1 to keep the condenser cool.

Just crack on with it, it's only a handful of screws........................and then a couple of lacerated hands getting at the two nuts under the scuttle!!!!!

Here's a few photos of the passenger side shelf, it's not the prettiest thing but I think that by the time I got to this I'd probably had enough of the climatronic install! Hassan, you asked about the fans, noise and flow, can't speak for the other Tony's but my fan is really quiet, certainly no louder than the original until the flow is wound up that is. The flow rate is the biggest improvement from the install, even better than getting A/C in a previously non A/C car! As everyone has found at some time the fan in Corrado struggles to clear the windows, get in the car with wet clothes, put the fan on 4 and see a patch the size of your hand gradually clear on the screen.....The climatronic fan just blows it all away, screen and side windows too! I can only show my sunlight sensor from the outside as it's buried in the top of the dash, I put mine through the grill in the centre of the dash that's not a speaker with a small lens over it that I robbed from an old TV remote control!

I like that, it fits the dash much better than mine does, the Passat centre console is wider so the panel had to be cut down to fit which shows in the moulding plus it's a couple of mm proud of being fully flush on the front.....don't think I'll be changing it though, can't imagine the pain of doing it a third time!!!

I was trying to find a photo of mine to post but haven't got any on my computer and I'm hundreds of miles from my car up in Aberdeen until Friday. Basically I cut the back off the shelf until I could get it to fit into the car and then cut a piece of plywood to blank the back off. The plywood is then covered with a piece of carpet I cut from an old floor mat and stuck in with spray glue......it is however a perfect dark grey colour to match the interior. The shelf I have left is only about 20mm deep, enough for a couple of biros and little else!!! Only difficult bit if I remember right is that it took away one of the fixing holes for the screws that go into the centre console so maybe I ended up having to make a new hole......I don't remember exactly as it was way back in 2006 that I did mine. It's out of the car at the moment as I've not got around to refitting everything since I had the dash out for my OBD2 wiring so I can probably get some pictures at the weekend if you like.

I was just looking through the Passat drawings, mine comes from pin T28a/24 but I'm sure that's of little help. My vagcom does though talk to the climatronic controller perfectly well, it took no setting up it just worked from the first time I powered things up, easiest part of the install!

Gutted for you, it seemed to be going so well yesterday, all things considered anyway. I can't even volunteer to have a run over to offer some assistance as I'm in Aberdeen until Friday afternoon. Can the holes not be re-drilled to suit all the studs as long as the basics can be lined up such as the air intake and centre ducting? Problem is that you're breaking new ground here fitting a Mk4 CC box (if it is indeed a Mk4 box) to what is basically a Mk2 bulkhead.

Sorry I missed this earlier, everyone keeps dumping paper on my desk this morning and I don't seem to be getting through any of it! Good luck with the install, it's all straight forward and bolts into place just like it belongs there........except maybe for the parcel shelf big enough to hold one pen that you are left with??? I've been looking at the condensers with the drier built in from various random VAG motors, thinking I might try going that route which will get rid of one piece of piping. There are a number of condensers that seem to have both connections in the bottom left corner (looking from the front of the car) which would only need one short pipe connecting from compressor to condenser and then some kind of modification to get from condenser to evaporator pipe.......would certainly neaten things up a bit.

Starting at your second post first.......well done on getting the system working on the bench, krnau did the same thing and I was really impressed when he'd done it too, I just threw everything into the car first and then figured out the wiring after......I believe your way is possibly better!!! As I see it the 12V from F129 pin 3 simply goes to three systems to inform that stage 2 fan is running, fan controller, CC and ECU. The A/C is not shut off until fan stage 3 is called for through pins 1 and 2 of F129. Looking at sheet 71/8 there's a signal from CC at line 89 (originates from line 41 of drg) which goes to F129 pin 2 on a blue/green, if F129 is healthy i.e. >2bar & I have a list which suggests those names for ECU pins 37 & 39, we're probably looking at the same list....I'm not sure if that's exactly right looking at the wiring as there seems to be a bit more to it than that. Even if you look right back to the Diavia system there are are two signals to ECU from A/C, I never really gave it any thought as to why there weren't any in a standard stage 2 set up. Certainly A/C on will need to kick the revs slightly, maybe A/C on and stage 2 fan needs some more??? I seem to remember that the wiring to the ECU is already there in the car......there should be a yellow 2 pin plug on green and blue wires above the relay plate/fuse box. I could have a look in mine if I really needed to but I'd prefer not to pull the wiring out again as it's horrible up there! The yellow plug in the centre of this photo from my OBD2 loom is T2n which is the ECU plug you're looking for in the mass of spare wires Corrados seem to come with (ignore the loose wires on the right). The black one below it is T5c which carries the majority of the CC controller to fan controller signals in mine at least.

Looking at the Passat drawings (set 71 pages 6 to 8 ) and the layout diagram in the manual (which unfortunately features a stage 2 relay rather than a fan controller and you therefore have to guess a bit!) Fan controller pin 10/2 is the >15bar start fan stage 2 signal. 12V comes from 10A fuse S13 at relay plate pin A1/7 to distribution point L47 and then by black/white wire to F129 pin 4....the other side of the contact (F129 pin 3) connects via blue wires to Fan Controller J293 pin 10/2, CC controller J255 pin 28A/2 and ECU pin 68/39. The second contact in pressure switch F129 is the system permissive signal which confirms pressure is >2bar and The two contacts to the ECU are (on mine at least) a green or maybe green/white wire which is CC enabled and a blue wire which is fan stage 2 activated (above). Fan run on is not exactly the same as stage 1 is it as the auxiliary water pump also has to run in that situation?

Although Jay's was rather different in that he didn't overlay a Golf loom onto a Corrado loom.....he just squeezed a Golf into a Corrado!!!!! Maybe just wasn't the right word to use there?????

So here are some drawings and things to, I hope, help with you climatronic installation! These were collected together by krnau and myself while doing our installs. The Passat wiring diagrams are what I used both times doing mine, first with the original Corrado loom and then second time alongside the OBD2 write up by C488ADO when I installed my Golf loom. Next is a Climatronic Manual which is useful as it has a write up plus descriptions of how everything works and a wiring diagram of the complete system laid out. You mentioned that you were getting a Mk4 Golf loom so the diagram for 2001 Golf might come in handy, I never used that one myself as it didn't match my system! Another Golf set this time from 1998. And lastly there's a set of photos krnau sent me which I believe he received from the German guy who sold him his parts, they're for an LHD car but could come in handy. I've got a few more sets of wiring diagrams but they're in German so get a bit confusing.....to me at least! Hopefully these will go you something to get started on anyway!!! passat climatronic wiring diags.pdf climatronic-manual-eng.pdf climatronic wiring-Golf from May 01.pdf 2.8l 24v Climatronic system.pdf alemany.pdf

I just replied to your PM and then I've had a read through your thread again....there's probably some of those questions above that I can answer, and maybe even more I can make you ask!!! I don't have the right PC with me at the moment with my climate file on it, I do have loads of diags from different models so hopefully we can sort out what goes where. You're right about the A/C relays though and as you say, the climate controller and fan controller run everything between them, there's only one other relay in mine and that's above the relay plate/fuse box and it's a simple system ON/OFF one. I'll get back to you with loads of wiring diags!!!

Take the M3 at the crazy low price...........................and then sell it for a profit, simple!!!

Looking good, not so sure I want to sell them now!!! Good to meet you this morning, glad you're happy with the wheels. Your car looks stunning, I'd better be getting on with mine now!

I took mine out a few weeks ago when I swapped the loom for OBD2 and yes the engine was in the car. Inlet manifold etc was removed but I'm not sure any of that makes a deal of difference, it's a pig of a job but it does come past the suspension turret with a bit of wiggling! Strangely enough it dropped back in without any trouble whatsoever, I then took it out and put it back in again as the loom wasn't quite where it needed to be and both times were a doddle???

I've got some in me shed, they were chrome ones but are now painted, not perfectly I must admit, in black. They have lamin-x clear film fitted and I can throw in the loom I made which keeps the dip beam on when mains are used too. I'm out of the country until next week but let me know if you're interested. I've got some in pro all red rears with the black rather than chrome bodies too that will be for sale if you might be looking for those?

Thanks to C488ADO for a great write up on swapping to OBD2. I’ve had the parts in my shed more than three years and the last couple of weeks finally got around to fitting everything! Your description was a great help especially all the photos, every time I try to do the same I get to the end and remember that I’d forgotten to take half the ones I should have! My swap was however slightly different and in answer to Rams, yes if you’re really determined you can leave the AC wiring in there if you’re prepared to use original VW rather than the Diavia system. A few years ago I installed Climatronic from a 96 Passat VR6 into mine which meant I had all the Corrado wiring plus a fair amount of a Passat loom under the bonnet too, the OBD2 Golf loom let me tidy a lot of that up. Here’s my finished OBD2 loom after I’d pulled out all the unnecessary lighting circuits etc but before I started wrapping it ready to go back in the car. These are the plugs for V7 the radiator fan motor and F18 the radiator two way temperature switch. These are both standard Corrado but part of the Corrado fan loom normally. The bundle at the top of this photo are all standard Corrado, the other two however are extra, the brown one is for F163/F165 which connects to a third (brown) two way temperature switch I have in the thermostat housing alongside the usual blue and yellow ones. The black one connects to N25 the AC compressor magnetic clutch. These two are again standard in a Corrado, both connect to J293 the fan controller, T4 the large plug is I believe pretty common although the smaller plug T10 is only used if you’re lucky enough to have the later fan controller. I say lucky enough as a lot of the Climatronic sensors are connected through this controller which also switches the compressor clutch. My car is a late May 95 build so pretty near the end of the production run, no idea when these were introduced as standard. The Corrado normally only uses six of the ten pins in this plug, for my original Passat loom add on I had to add an additional four pins and tag on some more wiring, this tidies it up no end. The white plug here goes to G62, a temperature sensor in the coolant line to the matrix. Not all Climatronic would appear to have this as I seem to remember that when krnau was doing his install he didn’t use one, of course he has a LHD 16V which originally had factory AC so we had loads of fun figuring his swap to Cliatronic! The black plug connects to F129 which is the two way AC coolant pressure switch. And finally these are the Climatronic wires which connect into the controller, the large black plug on the right hand side is where the majority of them came from but they now connect to the smaller five pin black plug T5c and then there’s the smaller 2 pin T2n which connects to the ECU. The single red wire is the only thing from the cooling fan wiring which goes back to the fuse box for fan speed 1. I’ve still got a long way to go before I think about putting the car back on the road as there are loads of other jobs I want to get done such as full leather retrim, respray, suspension rebuild (we’ve owned this one almost eleven years so it’s a keeper) but this morning it fired up first button about two weeks after I originally started the OBD2 swap. The Climatronic worked straight away and the only fault code I couldn’t clear looks like I have a failed Lambda probe so on the whole I reckon that was something of a result, it's certainly far neater since I removed three looms and replaced them all with one!