blackboy VR6 0 Posted September 16, 2007 has any one heard of these, and more to the point has anyone got 1 and does it work the bloke on ebay selling these claims and increase upto 20bhp, anyone got any advice on these? thoughts cheers phil Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy 0 Posted September 16, 2007 General opinion, waste of space! If only it were that easy... :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Critical_Mass 10 Posted September 16, 2007 If youre on about one of those resistor jobbies claiming to be 20bhp+ mod, then forget it. I got one just to see what it was about and i didnt notice any difference when id fitted it (not on the corrado). Let me guess it cost about a fiver too!? Its a scam. EDIT - need to read more carefully :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
junkie 0 Posted September 16, 2007 May be worth trying the "leaf blower" supercharger as seen on you tube on the rollers, it made good power :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dec 1 Posted September 16, 2007 'supercharger clicky' One of these?.....wouldn't waste your money on it tbh! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mave 0 Posted September 16, 2007 I'm sure ChrisCorrado had one on his valver, and got small gains from it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sonicriot13 0 Posted September 16, 2007 Now remember everybody "more air + more fuel = more power". :D Considering the power gains achieved using a decent charger I think 8-18 horses is a bit pants really. Especially for a hundred notes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe M 0 Posted September 16, 2007 How the hell is a fan that only draws 12 Watts going to pump enough air to generate anywhere near 20Bhp? Answer, its not. You can buy pc fans more powerful than that!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dr_mat 0 Posted September 16, 2007 How the hell is a fan that only draws 12 Watts going to pump enough air to generate anywhere near 20Bhp? Answer, its not. You can buy pc fans more powerful than that!!! 1bhp is around ~700 watts, so yes, gaining 13,000 W from a 12 W input would be monumental indeed! In fact, you'd have to say that this thing couldn't possibly even keep up with the air flow rate of a big engine on full reheat, so it might actually *reduce* your power output .. That said, it might help stabilise idle ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taggart 0 Posted September 16, 2007 I bought one of these, I can now beat a veyron to 250 mph Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
junkie 0 Posted September 16, 2007 Somebody needs to realise the potential of a dual set up Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
junkie 0 Posted September 16, 2007 Forget individual throttle bodies on a VR, lose the intake manifold and run 6 of those bad boys direct to head. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dinkus 10 Posted September 17, 2007 Forget individual throttle bodies on a VR, lose the intake manifold and run 6 of those bad boys direct to head. You're thinking too small - just do away with that heavy engine and fill the engine bay with these instead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Bowen 1 Posted September 17, 2007 aren't they made from large extractor fans? i have all the bits at home to make one, but haven't i didn't buy the bits to make one, i had it for other stuff before someone says anything :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
junkie 0 Posted September 17, 2007 Forget individual throttle bodies on a VR, lose the intake manifold and run 6 of those bad boys direct to head. You're thinking too small - just do away with that heavy engine and fill the engine bay with these instead. Electric supercharger thrust propulsion 1st to make the magic 300bhp wins a can of bow (may come empty) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dinkus 10 Posted September 18, 2007 Surely a line of blow would be more appropriate? :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boost monkey 0 Posted September 18, 2007 Sweet Lord! Mr. Men books have more real engineering in than this does! I am upset and embarrassed for all of mankind. :( Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted September 18, 2007 Electric superchargers are on the way, but that ebay thing is a waste of energy fitting it and a waste of energy running it. But that's the thing with Ebay, there's enough gullible berks on there to rival the amount of customers fleaing Northern Rock. Think about it..... an electric charger is perfect. You can constantly adjust boost pressure against throttle position and load. The problem is making one beefy enough AND frugal enough on the old electrical current draw. I think there's one around at the moment - a proper one - that can make 50hp, but it's current draw rivals a Coach's alternator load....so will be hard on the engine to turn. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yandards 0 Posted September 18, 2007 Electric superchargers are on the way, but that ebay thing is a waste of energy fitting it and a waste of energy running it. But that's the thing with Ebay, there's enough gullible berks on there to rival the amount of customers fleaing Northern Rock. Think about it..... an electric charger is perfect. You can constantly adjust boost pressure against throttle position and load. The problem is making one beefy enough AND frugal enough on the old electrical current draw. I think there's one around at the moment - a proper one - that can make 50hp, but it's current draw rivals a Coach's alternator load....so will be hard on the engine to turn. Be interesting to see what the losses would be through running the much larger alt needed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dinkus 10 Posted September 18, 2007 Interesting idea Kev, but I don't see how one could ever be more efficient than a mechanical one - if it's electric then you need to convert the mechanical energy to electricity (with some loss), then convert it back again (with some loss)... Anyway - wouldn't it just be a Prius? :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted September 19, 2007 Easy...... The flywheel is a big rotating mass that could be used as both a starter motor and alternator. PAS is now electric. There are plenty of big electric water pumps out there, that only draw a couple of amps. So there goes all your pulleys in one go. The vastly bigger alternator could supply more than enough current and voltage. All of the above is not new. Renault have already done all that - over 5 years ago! They also invented twin scroll turbo housings, and they are only now just appearing on cars and the aftermarket. As with everything, the ideas we think are great now were actually thought up years ago.....but over cautious investors don't support them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
junkie 0 Posted September 19, 2007 I can hear cheesewire's spanners working on the car already, dumping the now inferior turbo conversion for the "Electric Supercharger Conversion" woo hoo. He knows too much about these already to not be doing it, the secret has been let out :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackboy VR6 0 Posted September 19, 2007 got it today and fitted it !!! took it for a drive and seriously the power gain was immmmmmmense, :lol: i out dragged a r32 over took a sl55 zipped past a f40 all in its stride !!!!!! the power of a electric supercharger you would never believe it. :lol: thought it was to good to be true, i'll save my 100 snots me thinks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites