Rob_B 0 Posted November 10, 2011 Sounds like Gwerks have gone up the swanny according to the edition38 grapevine. Hope they don't owe anyone money from here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wormy 0 Posted November 10, 2011 From Facebook: G-Werks Announcement - We would like to say a huge thank you to all of our customers over the last 6 years.. Unfortunately due to reasons beyond our control we have been forced to cease trading. We have a things to be taken care of over the next week or so and in the mean time any questions please don't hesitate to contact us on our email - [email protected] "Its been my life for the last 6 years and can only say thank you to the people I have met and the cars I've been lucky enough to work on for you all" - Darren. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
northG60 0 Posted November 10, 2011 yep its true http://www.edition38.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=418207&st=0 it is a shame really for a once so respeced company to go like this....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob_B 0 Posted November 10, 2011 They turned rubbish a long time ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slimg60 0 Posted November 10, 2011 I'd like to say I'm shock but could see this coming. I've had good and bad service from them, but I think for G60 owners they went down hill after moving into air ride/Rotiform Hopefully Darren will bounce back into the G60 world, and stay away from anything too "scene" again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
northG60 0 Posted November 10, 2011 i guess JMR are going to be pretty busy re-building charger's then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walesy 0 Posted November 11, 2011 I cant say I'm surprised, and as much as I've said for years now that their customer service was appalling and selective, it's a huge shame to hear that they've gone under, loosing a business takes a huge toll on a personal level and lots of people will have lost out, not least whatever staff were there :( I think the point at which they went from being forced induction/tuning specialists to being scene queens was the start of the downfall, years ago the business thrived from good will and quality workmanship rather than leading trends and supplying the lastest fads,'and as quick as the Internet/forums/social networks can build businesses they can break them too. Best of luck to them and anyone who's currently out of pocket etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim 2 Posted November 11, 2011 (edited) I don't understand how they screwed it up. They had a very loyal following and a good reputation, and from what I could see had people queueing up to give them business. Absolutely baffling. And wow - not a lot of love on the R32OC. Didn't realise they had been quite so prolific at giving people the run around! :( Edited November 11, 2011 by Jim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted November 11, 2011 At the end of the day, if people are willing to hand over £1000s for leather lined engine bays and Bentley wheels, G-werks would be foolhardy to turn it down. I always got the impression they were one dimensional anyway. Great with Gladers but average with everything else. There are only a finite amount of Gladers around, so they had to pull in income from elsewhere. Only the well established, conservative and genuinely multi-talented companies will ultimately survive. Trends come and go. Stability and reliability are what keep people coming back for more, not the ability to glue bits of armchair hide to an airbox. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Bowen 1 Posted November 11, 2011 Does that make my Gwerks compliment slip uber rare and now worth something in the dub scene? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonnyG60 10 Posted November 11, 2011 They still owe me a Mocal oil cooler for my G60 :( Darren has always been a helpful guy though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DANG60 0 Posted November 11, 2011 Does that make my Gwerks compliment slip uber rare and now worth something in the dub scene? You might be on to something there lol I've just thrown out my g werks t shirt. Doh. Tbh I had nothing but chew with them back when I had my g60. Wouldn't wish that on anyone but from all the other things I've heard something had to give. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex_G60_Fanatic 0 Posted November 11, 2011 oh well... at least I wont get the annoying facebook updates so is JMR the new chaps to look to for g60 work? Mine desperately needs looking into.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VR6 0 Posted November 11, 2011 Reasons beyond our control ... Creditors and/or tax/VAT would be the obvious guess. Which usually means cashflow issues. Very sorry to hear the news though - not really much else to add what has already been said :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JMC 0 Posted November 11, 2011 Very sorry to hear about this. There has beeen good and bad reviews of them on here over time, however I've been working with Darren on my G60 for nearly 7 years now. My first experience with him was buying a black carpet from him when I first got my car - while I was down there he happened to mention that he was a G60 specialist and was starting a company, and at that point my work with the g60 was born. He was always there at the end of the phone when I needed him, he didn't waste my time recommending things I didn't need, he kept an eye out for certain spare parts for me when I needed them. I'll miss your presence in the the G60 world mate... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swiftkid 1 Posted November 11, 2011 I just can't think where all the money has gone... :scratch: [ATTACH=CONFIG]50048[/ATTACH] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted November 11, 2011 Apart from the belly scraper stance, that's actually not too bad :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yandards 0 Posted November 11, 2011 Sad to see them go but in a way an example of what happens when you change your customer base and move into a niche area of the market - throw in a major economic downturn and unfortunately it all goes belly up. Never had any issue with G Werks personally and Darren helped me out massively at very short notice but I can't say I liked the scene stuff they were producing as it just wasn't my thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob_B 0 Posted November 11, 2011 Of the 5 of my friends who have used them, Gwerks had a 100% record of giving crap service. Nice bloke, rubbish businessman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveo29 0 Posted November 13, 2011 id no intention to use them again after what ive witnessed no doubt he will pop again selling tat to fanboys he had Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P3rks 11 Posted November 13, 2011 Of the 5 of my friends who have used them, Gwerks had a 100% record of giving crap service. Nice bloke, rubbish businessman. id no intention to use them again after what ive witnessed no doubt he will pop again selling tat to fanboys he had ^Pretty much this unfortunately. From personal experience Darren was a lovely bloke but a rubbish businessman.. Saying that; he lasted 6 years and became one of the most well known and influential companies in the scene. From the sounds of things he's let things slip in the past year or so.. We don't know what happens behind closed doors and the reason for the closure. Business's going down are always a sad thing to see happen. I just hope no one has severely lost out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Topaz2008 0 Posted November 13, 2011 Its a shame to see this happen but after the trouble I had getting my charger rebuilt by them I am not surprised. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rado-steve 0 Posted November 14, 2011 Its sad when a company that was so well respected turns to rat 5hit...... Darren was a very knowledgable chap, I hope he comes back to Veedubs but not selling tat! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tempest 0 Posted November 14, 2011 (edited) Sad to hear and read about this happening. As a company owner myself I know how easy it is for outsiders (those folk that just have comfy dayjobs as employees ;) ) to criticise company owners in the sense of saying "they should have done this, they should have done that". All very easy to say, but try doing it yourself better. Personally I always valued Darren's honest opinions on my own car. Yes, he was selling what you could call tat, and yes, he even, when pushed hard, admitted that, and was very honest in his advice to me to not fit stuff like boost-return-pipe-deletion kits etc. I respected him for that. I have had 2 excellent experiences with him, where he went far beyond what could reasonably expected of anyone running a business (don't forget, a business needs to generate profit, much as we as customers wish to deny this), for example spent 2 hours removing my G-Lader instead of the usual 30 minutes, didn't charge me anything extra for that, spent a whole day overhauling my Lader, all the while allowing me to watch and learn, insisted on me not leaving the premises at around 20:00 until he had gotten oil lines for the Lader from his local VW dealership (who he even made come back to work), so that my freshly overhauled Lader would not suffer oil starvation due to clogged oil lines. In the run up to me bringing down my Rado for the G-Lader overhaul, I enquired what parts he was exactly going to use, since this is crucial that only approved parts are used. He made no secret of the parts, sent me their part numbers, which i could cross-reference with German forums where I have friends who work for companies like FAG, who make the bearings and seals for the G-Lader overhaul. I watched him take these parts from the packaging, all genuine. Haven't come across anyone else offering that much openness in an area that is otherwise notoriously closed and black-magicky (for no apparent reason to me). Second time I simply wanted to collect new injectors, he fitted them free of charge! Intake manifold had to be removed even, because my Rado was once again putting up a fight. That all may be some time ago, but even more recently when I contacted him with a query I had a reply by email within 24 hours with a once again honest answer to my question. Tempest Edited November 14, 2011 by Tempest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sam.l 0 Posted November 14, 2011 I can agree with tempest. I too, had my charger rebuilt and stage 4'd a few months ago but unfortunately, like topaz2008, the experience had left me exhausted due to lack of customer service and an absolute age to get it back to me. Though as an apology he had fitted a new 68mm pulley and belt free of charge. More recently, I have had running problems with the car and he has also been quick to reply to my emails with knowledgeable and honest advice, and even offering a healthy discount on a new chip to help the issues. All in all, regardless of what he seemed to follow to be 'scene' he, and g-werks's actual work is great and was impressed once I had the charger back. I can agree that as a business they had some major flaws, but the work done was very good and Darren is a good honest, and knowledgable guy. It's a shame really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites