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1991 Corrado G60 - Inca Blue 1991 Corrado G60 Inca Blue (a very rare colour which has a purple sheen in bright sunlight) 121k miles Has face lift (VR6 style) bonnet and front wings Black cloth interior with white head liner and pillars Nice number plate as well; J *** GGO MOT passed 01/2015 Location; Gloucester In need of some mechanical TLC hence price; needs cam seal change and dynamic tune I've owned this since 2006, but alas it's been sat in my double garage until a year ago :( The time has come for me to let go of the car :( I don't want to do this ? but needs must. For Sale ?1800 Pictures to follow ... Mechanicals -Engine on 121k miles, increasing a few miles per week -Gearbox replaced at 118k miles with a 70k G60 gearbox -JMR Stage 4 supercharger -SNS stage 5 ECU map -Newman 268/272 cam -Miltek exhaust -Mocal oil cooler -FK highsport coil-overs -Standard BBS 15's -Standard air box with paper filter -REFURBISHED alternator 90amp (GSF) -REFURBISHED distributor (GSF) -NEW coil -NEW distributor cap Bodywork -Good condition for age -Headlights and fogs a good condition -VR6 style grill (may have the G60 lettering somewhere) -Black front VW badge -Black rear VW badge -ARZ tuning smoked rear lights (I think I still have the originals in the garage loft) -Smoked side indicators (again I still have the originals) -Side panels and bonnet were resprayed in the past by the owner (VW Mech), before the previous owner -Roof paint work shows its age -Front head light and fog units in great condition -Small bubble of rust at the bottom of the rear windscreen -Small patch of rust on drivers side rear arch, near the sill -Space saver wheel -Also OE (I think) Estoril spare wheel -Tool kit Electrics -Fully working spoiler and sunroof -Mirrors are temperamental but have great mirrored glass -Uprated head light loom Interior -2 gauge pod in centre console, boost and volts. Boost gauge not plumbed in. -Standard black cloth interior in good condition -Black rear parcel shelf, unmolested -Flat boot liner, for space saver -Also raised boot liner, for the Estoril -Small fag burn on base of front passenger seat ICE -Previous owner had masses. -I didn't buy that setup so there's a period's looking CD unit but no front speakers. I have some, that can go with the car. Extras that'll go with the car -Used Bently manual -Used Haynes manuals for Passat and Golf -New, but never fitted, drivers bolster for base of seat -Spare front head light, near side I think -Any other spares I find in my garage, there's a bit History I bought this G60 in 2006, after noticing the following car. Corrado and Porsche are the only cars that interest me. I'd previously owned a modified G60 in 1995 and regret to this day ever selling that car. ? http://www.dubforce.net/forums/?showtopic=4258 Due to me being far to precious about this car, for many years 65 mile work commute across A and B roads, then family life, meant the G60 has pretty much sat in my garage until the last year. Epic fail as my sons would say!!!! A change of employer mean I now cycle to work and the car is only used to taxi my kids around. Total waste of the car and I'm scared someone else will ding it, scratch it, whatever. I need it replaced with a I don't care box. Alas I can't run my wifes car and 2 for me :( The BAD? Cam belt shredded some teeth!!! Stood too long and got her running without changing the belt first :( The G60 is NOT an interference fit engine, so no valves against pistons as would happen to a 16v. What it did mean is I had to statically time the engine. I'm a software engineer not a mechanic so it took me ages. Researching and the Bentley got me there in the end. Along the way I also replaced the alternator, coil, distributor and its cap, and of course a new cam belt. She's been running like this for the past year covering just over 500 miles. Goes okay but drinks fuel in town traffic, taking my kids to football training and matches :( Needs a proper dynamic tune. The cam seal now leaks oil :( List Date: 2/20/2015 Location: Gloucester, United Kingdom For more info, click here to view the original listing: 1991 Corrado G60 - Inca Blue -------------------------------------- SOLD -------------------------------------- Mobile friendly version: 1991 Corrado G60 - Inca Blue Go Mobile: Download the free Panjo iOS app now!

Lots of it this lunchtime, so tried accessing page 5 of this very thread. http://the-corrado.net/showthread.php?t=80960&page=5 Using Google Chrome v30.0.1599.66 from OSX 10.7.5, gives constant Arse for this page and lots of others on the Activity Stream. Force reload of page does not clear the fuzzy arse :( Switched to Safari v6.0.5 and it's gone from everywhere! At same time still issue with Chrome, so not time related. Very odd ...

In the end I bought a refurbished unit from GSF, which was not cheap :( At least it came with a new rotor arm and a suppression cap. It's now fitted to the car, which now starts reliably! ... next up is timing. As for the original distributor ... it wouldn't rotate at all. So I soaked its base in WD40. Then set to it with a length of wood and a lump hammer, knocking it side to side. Got some movement, so then spent ages cursing it until it started to rotate. Next hardship was getting to the poxy thing to pull out! Again soaked base in WD40, applied much cursing, and eventually it lifted out. Saga ends. Next step MOT ...

Went to Maplins, bought a 12v LED and made myself a "test light". As per Bentley manual, put light across coil terminals 1 & 15. Turned car over and no flicker from the LED. Then tried testing the Hall Sender. With harness connected to the distributor, pulled plug cover up. Put test light across middle pin and the outer Brown & White. Turned engine over and no flicker from LED, just constant ON. So according to Bentley manual my Hall Sender has died... Arse.

Okay tried old and new combinations for dizzy cap, rotor arm, and coil with no joy :( Measured and I have correct voltage and resistance for both new and old coil, so going with shiny new coil at the moment. Hall sender harness, checked voltage on outer pins and that's correct. HT leads resistance measure fine. Next I'll make myself an LED test light to check the hall sender across its harness centre and brown/white wired terminal :( Anything else I can try or test ?

Hi All I'm really stuck as what to do next, so if anyone has any advice for my probably stupid questions below then that would be massively appreciated. Thanks. Short version: G60 turns over fine but wont start. Thinking distributor as strobe shows nothing from coil. Can I test the hall sender operation somehow? Long version: Okay car's been sat in my garage for a long time, well 4'ish years. Desperately trying to get it back on the road as I've had enough of modern cars and luckily clung onto this car much to the annoyance of my wife. Over the past few weeks I've been working on it. Had it running on occasions for a short time but it would then stall. Mostly it would not start at all. Few days back I found my alternator was sucking 3.5amps which I've now replaced with a good one and current drain is correct now. Trouble is now it won't start at all! Turns over fine, yet strobe shows nothing from coil to dizzy, or dizzy to plugs. Within the past few weeks I've fitted new:- Cam belt as per a G60 thread on forum, battery, dizzy cap, rotor arm, coil, leads, alternator, ECU relay, ignition switch, oil and filter, cleaned all earth points, cleaned connectors, checked for good resistance at BTS. Added fresh fuel to the tank so it's 50/50 good and old stuff. ISV buzzes and "clicks" about once a second, so ECU okay...? Ignition on I hear a fuel pump buzz. I've loosened the distributor locking nut, but the body just wont rotate at all. It's held fast to the engine block :( What should I be looking at next ....? Is there any wiring I should be testing ? Can I somehow test the hall sender ? Is it likely that I need to replace the distributor ?

Well I've fitted a refurbished Bosch alternator from my local GSF, a 90amp to replace the failed 65amp. GSF parts guy said it was the last one in their stock, van'd from Harlow. Came with regulator and pulley but was missing the suppressor. So I used the old units suppressor. Plugged all fuses and relays back in and the current drain is, according to my cheap multimeter, about 0.1 Amps. See if she'll start and run in the morning...

Thanks for the reply. So as I feared, I need a new alternator :( Any recommendations of where to source one from or places to avoid ?

Hi guys Need some guidance! Noticed that my alternator casing was quite warm to touch with ignition off, yet everything around it was cold; block, SC, coolant pipes. So no heat transferred from anything else. So used multimeter to read current drain .... 3.5amps! Pulled fuses out from fuse panel one at a time, no change. Then did the same for all the relays, except for fuel pump after run? and fan after run? (sat on top of fuse panel) as I couldn't see how to release them. Anyway bar those two relays all others removed and still 3.5amps drain. So next I disconnected the alternator and then it went to 0amps! Do I need a new alternator? Background; cars been laid up in my garage for "some time" :( trying to get her on the road again. Fitted new battery, coil, dizzy cap, dizzy rotor, cleaned all earths, cleaned all connectors, fresh fuel in the tank, new cam belt and set timing as per G60 timing thread. ....have yet to fit new fuel filter. Anything else I can test or try before going refurbished alternator ? Had my fling with new cars and now desperate to get back in a G60.

Hi Henny Totally understand your reasoning and like the choice of car :) My G60 has been laid up in the garage, to the great annoyance of my wife, for far too long. Still trying to side-step my reality that it needs to be sold :( Chris

Can see bugger all through the spark plug holes! :( From what I can see, there's no obvious damage to the piston. Outer pistons are at/near the bottom of their stroke. Inner pistons at/near top of their stroke ... piston 2 I can see a valve seat protruding down, whereas cannot on piston 3...? I'll remove the old belt and see what happens when turning it by hand, and go from there. Thanks for the links on the timing setting!

True, but an aftermarket cam might change that, depending on lift/duration.. :? I can never remember if the PG is interference fit or not :( My fear is it became interference fit after the cam ... My kids are in bed now, so now I can visit the garage and remove the plugs and take a peek at the pistons!!

Numpty Alert! Hi My G60 cam belt has jumped a "few" teeth at idle, after I revived it from a *very* long slumber. Lesson learned about aged cam belts! :( Will the valves have hit? It's running a Newmann 268/276 cam if that makes a difference. What damage can I expect from this worst case :( Chris

Wilwood 4pots are available for the G60 4 stud and use a 280mm disc I think, should fit inside 15's ... worth a look?

The wife used to have 9-3 Cab 1.8t Vector Sport ... rated at 150bhp but we had it mapped (SAAB official Hirsch map) to 195bhp. It's actually a 2ltr block, with very good mid-range torque. Went well enough. A cab' so was heavy and but handled okay. I've driven a Hirsch'd (remapped) 1.9TID Sportwagon and that handled nicely. Absolutely superb front seats. Good buy second hand as they depreciate quickly - because it's not an Audi / BMW?!? I'd have another. 1.8t = 150bhp 2.0t = 175bhp 2.0T (Aero) = 210bhp 2.8V6 Aero = 250-275bhp

What Andy said ^ A bit off centre but I'd consider a SAAB 9-3 1.9TiD Sportwagon, and get it Hirsch'd (chipped) ...

Driven my mates Caterham ~R300 and that was quite nippy, so imagine 1000bhp/ton to be quite amusing :) I'd to love see JC drive this on Top Gear.

I saw my first New Scirocco on the road today. A very clean white version on the A417 between Gloucester and Swindon, and it looked really good as it passed. Then a mucky blue version in Swindon, which didn't look special at all.

Once the timing is wound back as far as it can, doesn't the G60 ECU then use the ISV to bleed boost off? A previous G60 of mine did this, peeked at 185bhp and then suddenly dropped and then picked up again at 185bhp 100's of rpm later - this confused Geoff Everett (think that was his name?) at AmD circa '96. It pinked at high rpm really badly :( Never sorted and why I sold it ... if only I knew G-Werks then :( Fuel pump, injectors?

This months EVO has a UK road test of a German Scirocco 2ltr turbo. Compared against the R3 RX-8 and 123d. They like it, and in DSG form did 60 in 6.2secs from what they recorded.

Fitted the relays and ignition switch last night to the car. Two relays were easy, the ignition switch was not :( Ignition switch is at a ~35deg angle away from the column, and is held in place by a single screw that's angled toward the column. After hanging upside down under the column getting no where fast, using a small watch-maker style screw driver, I gave in. Thought bugger it, and removed the; steering wheel, column surrounds, indicator and MFA stalks, removed the two bolts holding the metal ignition switch surround to the column. This gave some movement to the metal surround, and was enough to undo the screw from above. The switch that came out was already a Polo 6N switch :( but of unknown age so put the new one in. Started her up and she ran fine. Still has the wobbly idle as before, idles fines then blip the throttle and the revs go up okay but then drops to nearly 500rpm where the engine gets lumpy and nearly dies, and then climbs back to anywhere between 800 and 1200rpm. So turned the ignition off, unplugged the ISV, and started her up again. Barely idled, so adjusted the idle screw outward on the back of the TB to get a smooth idle. Now revs up cleanly as before, but now returns to a nice steady idle - albeit at ~1100rpm now, which :) I'll have a go at cleaning the ISV to see if that helps, and if not I'll just run with it unplugged and should be fine with the SNS map ... Drove her the 35miles to work this morning and no cut-out problem ... so far.

Bump, as also interested.

Hi Neil Some very well done photos there! Can you retake the 3/4 rear photo (my fav), but chop down that poxy sign before you do :) Chris

I've only seen a couple of these rare beasties before, but followed a W8 Estate on a 51 plate this morning. I liked the discreet quad pipes out the back.