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[Keyo 47]

Does look good with the bigger disc.

[ABV-VR6 12]

Just read the brake part of it. I do think 288 calipers is a must and can be considered OEM+. Better brake, still same fit that's pretty good! Yes, the other components are getting old so you can't expect today's car braking but it's a simple upgrade and not really costly which is rare on a Corrado. I would upgrade to stainless hoses for I slightly better braking. Rubber hoses absorb some of the brake fluid pressure by somewhat inflating. With stainless it goes straight to the piston for maximum pressure. it's not night and day difference but I'll take anything that adds up to a better braking system. 

Keyo, since you like oem parts. Did the MK3 GTI in UK came with front oem red calipers? Here yes, sometimes a see sets of brand new old ones going for $400 cad = £240

Just a thought! Cheers 

[ABV-VR6 12]

14 hours ago, Dox said:

Mk4 288s are the same as late mk3 - no spacer needed as long as you use mk3 late disks. 
 

you’ll need banjo hoses either mk3 (I think mk4 are also the same?) or braided etc. 
 

If you go 312s you can only use a mk4 disk and you’ll need 6mm spacers

Dox, can you educate me more about those late rotors please? Until I read your comment, I never knew or read anything about that? So early MK3 need spacers but not late? Why is that and from what year is considered late MK3?

Thank you!! 

[seanl82 23]

19 minutes ago, ABV-VR6 said:

Dox, can you educate me more about those late rotors please? Until I read your comment, I never knew or read anything about that? So early MK3 need spacers but not late? Why is that and from what year is considered late MK3?

Thank you!! 

Early MK3 had 280mm as well so same as Corrado. Later ones had the 288mm upgrade. Think the change occurred around 95.

[Keyo 47]

ABV Im not sure about the MK3 - its a GTI I have never owned to be honest- it is possible I suppose that the anniversary edition came with red callipers. 

Its true when you think about it- the VR6 is heavier then the g60 and more powerful so it is surprising VW did not upgrade the brakes to 288 mm from factory. 

Thanks Sean I will look on etka later and find the part numbers - be interesting to see if you can still get them new-  I could then use my 280 mm from the VR to upgrade on my MK2 golf .

Just out of interest if I can find a second hand set- how much does big red roughly charge for refurb. 

Thanks

Edited June 1, 2021 by Keyo

[Keyo 47]

1 hour ago, ABV-VR6 said:

Just read the brake part of it. I do think 288 calipers is a must and can be considered OEM+. Better brake, still same fit that's pretty good! Yes, the other components are getting old so you can't expect today's car braking but it's a simple upgrade and not really costly which is rare on a Corrado. I would upgrade to stainless hoses for I slightly better braking. Rubber hoses absorb some of the brake fluid pressure by somewhat inflating. With stainless it goes straight to the piston for maximum pressure. it's not night and day difference but I'll take anything that adds up to a better braking system. 

Keyo, since you like oem parts. Did the MK3 GTI in UK came with front oem red calipers? Here yes, sometimes a see sets of brand new old ones going for $400 cad = £240

Just a thought! Cheers 

Hi ABV, 

I can confirm the Mk3 does have an option for a 288 mm desribed as RED. 

NO1 on diagram. 

https://www.ilcats.ru/vw/?function=getParts&market=RDW&model=GO&modelcode=184&year=1997&group=6&subgroup=615&part=615040&language=en

Dox/ Shaun are these correct fitment for the corrado mod ? 

Thanks 

https://www.volkswagen-classic-parts.de/en/bremssattelgehause-golf-gti-dbc664.html

Its £400 for the set but would have to get carries to - works out to a fair bit so not a great option- . 

 

Edited June 1, 2021 by Keyo

[Keyo 47]

Are the 288 mm factory Mk3 ones all ATE guys so I know they are genuine ? Thanks 

Edited June 1, 2021 by Keyo

[Cressa 44]

11 minutes ago, Keyo said:

Are the 288 mm factory Mk3 ones all ATE guys so I know they are genuine ? Thanks 

Going to say YES.  👍👍

[Dox 23]

MK3 288mm callipers and carriers are exactly the same as MK4 288mm which are far more plentiful.

I've never seen a MK4 with rusty pistons, they're up to 10 years newer and cheaper too.

To fit either MK4 or MK3 to the corrado you need the MK3 288mm disks

MK4 disks have a different offset and need 6mm spacers exactly the same as the 312mm do

[Keyo 47]

5 minutes ago, Dox said:

MK3 288mm callipers and carriers are exactly the same as MK4 288mm which are far more plentiful.

I've never seen a MK4 with rusty pistons, they're up to 10 years newer and cheaper too.

To fit either MK4 or MK3 to the corrado you need the MK3 288mm disks

MK4 disks have a different offset and need 6mm spacers exactly the same as the 312mm do

Good to know.  Anyone got a link to the brake hose kit you need ? Dox do the 280 mm G60 upgrade on a Mk2 16v - do i need any hose kit or is it direct fit - I know you need spacers for the BBS RA but I all ready have some fitted. Cheers

Edited June 1, 2021 by Keyo

[Dox 23]

Corrado disks are 5 stud, Golf MK2 are 4 stud.

You'll need the VR6 callipers and carriers, [pad - disk - pad] thickness is wider on the G60 set up than the factory 16v set up can cope with.

Hoses are the same.

[Keyo 47]

16 minutes ago, Dox said:

Corrado disks are 5 stud, Golf MK2 are 4 stud.

You'll need the VR6 callipers and carriers, [pad - disk - pad] thickness is wider on the G60 set up than the factory 16v set up can cope with.

Hoses are the same.

Thanks . 

[1xshaunx1 27]

TRW BHW276E BHW275E

ATE new

[Keyo 47]

16 minutes ago, 1xshaunx1 said:

TRW BHW276E BHW275E

ATE new

Oh my will have a look - thanks . 

[Keyo 47]

Nice set of rare NOS Ottinger alloys here - 16 x 7.5 J. 5x 100 . - good price considering they are new. 

https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/16-oettinger-felgen-neu-5x100-golf-corrado-polo-jetta-gti-vr6/1778324251-223-1925

Edited June 3, 2021 by Keyo

[Cressa 44]

Bargain.  And if you had anything oettinger then they are a must have. Good find 👍 I hope someone on here buys them

[Keyo 47]

Got these decals VR6 for the 288 mm brake upgrade- comes in a pack of 8 with different sizes - going with white decal and red caliper - like the uprated GTI performance pack calipers basically but with VR6 script. 

All in delivered £9.00 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/snstyling-com-Decal-window-caliper-mirror/dp/B07NFB2H4G/ref=trb_chk_auth?dchild=1&keywords=vw+vr6+brake+caliper+decal&qid=1622890949&sr=8-1&openid.assoc_handle=amazon_checkout_gb&openid.claimed_id=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.co.uk%2Fap%2Fid%2Famzn1.account.AFAMLAIWPVONXRPEWZ42VV7QLWFA&openid.identity=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.co.uk%2Fap%2Fid%2Famzn1.account.AFAMLAIWPVONXRPEWZ42VV7QLWFA&openid.mode=id_res&openid.ns=http%3A%2F%2Fspecs.openid.net%2Fauth%2F2.0&openid.op_endpoint=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.co.uk%2Fap%2Fsignin&openid.response_nonce=2021-06-05T11%3A05%3A49Z1016637324497292518&openid.return_to=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.co.uk%2Fsnstyling-com-Decal-window-caliper-mirror%2Fdp%2FB07NFB2H4G%2Fref%3Dtrb_chk_auth%3Fdchild%3D1%26keywords%3Dvw%2Bvr6%2Bbrake%2Bcaliper%2Bdecal%26qid%3D1622890949%26sr%3D8-1%26trb_auth%3D1%26trb_open%3D1%26trb_bid%3Dbuy-now-button&openid.signed=assoc_handle%2Cclaimed_id%2Cidentity%2Cmode%2Cns%2Cop_endpoint%2Cresponse_nonce%2Creturn_to%2CsiteState%2Cns.pape%2Cpape.auth_policies%2Cpape.auth_time%2Csigned&openid.ns.pape=http%3A%2F%2Fspecs.openid.net%2Fextensions%2Fpape%2F1.0&openid.pape.auth_policies=http%3A%2F%2Fschemas.openid.net%2Fpape%2Fpolicies%2F2007%2F06%2Fnone&openid.pape.auth_time=2021-06-05T11%3A05%3A49Z&openid.sig=wTYMwAPruVQJ3Q9Llpf4Y0TyP6Oes8qwiq7%2BaR4nkS0%3D&serial=&siteState=|hasWorkingJavascript.1

[Keyo 47]

Is  this 100 percent the correct brake lines for 288 mm upgrade as it says for rear brakes. 

Thanks

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/202562895141

[Cressa 44]

Confusing as hell that post!!!

[Keyo 47]

Just now, Cressa said:

Confusing as hell that post!!!

Have you got a link mate for the 288 mm brake lines - cheers. 

[ABV-VR6 12]

Ya that ebay post is hard to follow. 

I bought a kit like this from these guys in the USA. But it looks like they only have front and rear kits with either mk3 or MK4 rears option. Not just the front ones... 

https://techtonicstuning.com/main/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_28_180&products_id=285&zenid=kucs1k1d8ifu4cuvevvn48sb63

[Keyo 47]

Cressa recently fitted 288 mm brakes - where did you get your hoses mate . 

The Hel advert is confusing says.  front brake lines for rear disc. 

 

FRONT BRAKE LINESVOLKSWAGEN GOLF MK3 2.8 VR6 REAR DISCS / FROM CH 1H-SW560 001 (1992-1997)

Thanks 

Edited June 8, 2021 by Keyo

[Keyo 47]

Do the stock 288mm golf ones fit a rado the other union correct . 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333984311852?hash=item4dc3042a2c:g:ZGAAAOSwiY1gjfZZ

[Cressa 44]

https://auto.helperformance.com/volkswagen-golf-mk3-2-8-vr6-to-ch-1h-sw560-000-1992-1997-braided-brake-lines

Try that. £45 for 2 from Hel. 

If the link works!!!

The ones I have are goodridge phantom but came with everything else I bought

[Cressa 44]

Just now, Keyo said:

Do the stock 288mm golf ones fit a rado the other union correct . 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333984311852?hash=item4dc3042a2c:g:ZGAAAOSwiY1gjfZZ

Yes