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ok ive done some testing unplugged the black temp sensor & fans still on as soon as ignition is turned on unplugged fan controller & no fans with ignition unplugged temp sender in rad, no fans, plug back in & fans on so, my question is how do i determine if it is the fan controller or the temp sender in the rad? anyone have any ideas? i think i read a post from Kev saying that if the black sensor is unplugged & fans still come on with ignition then it is the fan controller - ? thanks

thanks i did follow the coolant top up procedure after i replaced the radiator elbow a few weeks ago but will add it to the list to check

anyone? leaving work soon...

also found this from Kev "Speed 3 is controlled by the black sender. As Hombre said, that and it's yellow partner are in the thermostat housing, which is on the engine block behind the fan motor. A plastic shroud covers them, which you need to pull off." which is where i am at hopefully as the fans sound super loud will try black sensor first

looking throught the VR6 cooling guide i can see this: "These are approximate as it depends on the age of the senders and how crusty they are. VAG-specified values and part numbers are listed further down. Stage 1 Controlled by the temp sender in the rad, directly to the fans Switch On: 92-97 C (198-207 F) Switch Off: 84-91 C (183-196 F) Stage 2 Controlled by the temp sender in the rad, combined with info from the yellow temp sender via the fan controller Switch On: 99-105 C (210-221 F) Switch Off: 91-98 C (196-208 F) Stage 3 Controlled by the black coolant temp sender, via the fan controller Not listed in the guide above, but it kicks in at around 110-115 C. For non-AC cars, stage 3 should never come on under normal conditions, if it does, you have a problem. Temp senders The coolant warning light is actually a level sensor (those 2 metal spikes in the header tank are what the plug is for and measure yes/no on coolant level). There is no over-temp warning other than the gauge going up/big cloud of steam coming out of the engine bay The main fan control temp sender is screwed into the radiator. This is a 3-pin brass jobber and has 2 different pin layouts depending on if you have early/late VR. It looks like early ones are all 3 pins in a row, late ones are 3 pins in a triangle shape." which is implying to me that it was the main fan control temp sender i disconnected i am thinking to try disconnecting that again, if fans do not come on but then do when i reconnect it i should replace that can anyone give me a sanity check on that pls lol

Hi all Am hoping someone can assist me with my VR for some reason my fans have decided to play up - as soon as i start the car they kick in on full speed does anyone know which of the 3 sensors works the stage 3 fans? it also happened a couple of weeks ago but i disconnected the sensor nearest the top of the rad & in the radiator, the one just under where the battery is, & when i started it up the fans did not kick in i reconnected that sensor & tried it again & fans didnt come on again i am thinking that might be the sensor at fault but am not sure - can anyone confirm & give a part number if possible pls? im off to the motor factors this afternoon having booked a half day thanks

ahhh haaaa that's the puppy MikeVR6!!! Wossner 3 litres, as soon as i read your post it clanged lol

i know i have a brand in my brain somewhere but cant bloody locate it lol try dropping Kev Bacon a PM m8, i am pretty sure he will know lots that you want to understand & likely more ;) AFIK they would normally looked at as an option if you currently have piston slap - as they would be to uprate slightly to a true 3 litre & in combination with a block re-bore & re-hone to remove any ovaling & cater for the oversized piston compared to OE

pleasure m8 winner winner chicken dinner glad you got it sorted :)

yup i can it is the under half of the steering wheel cowling - covering the ignition & steering column etc it doesnt look like a corrado one though - as they have a central screw hole & then another one on each side

there are a few ways - i tend to add photos as an attachment to the post if you click 'go advanced' you can then scroll down to see a 'manage attachments' button - hit that & then 'chosen file', navigate to where your pics are stored, select the one you want & then click upload you can do that multiple times to add as many pics as you want IIRC there is a file size limit on what can be uploaded others use tapatalk app to do it or have a pic hosting site & then put the links in your post photobucket seems a no-no now due to them charging & lots of people on here have had their images removed from their build threads due to such hope that helps

i have tried one of the ebay mirrors but the outline shape was slightly wrong & it didnt quite fit the original plastic backer i ended up getting one off lilfuzzer on here, he sold me a complete wing mirror - unfortunately, though the glass was correct shape it is magnified which im not keen on but then i didnt ask about it beforehand drop him a PM, he may have what you need :)

leather was non-factory - ad says been added from a storm - pity they didnt change the rear ash tray lid though

lol dont take any offence m8 all are a nice bunch on here, just a little joking around goes on your posts are racking up nicely now :)

roose motorsport make hoses for our VR's if nobody has any - though i would use the OE spring clamps rather than jubilee's if i did them again

ha ha ha good one fella lol

likely due to them not seeing it yet & also due to the number of posts you have made so far, IE 1 after several posts you shouldnt need mod approval to make a new thread IIRC

lol i have that very feeling now every time i drive the valver after previously using the VR FYI they are a 4 week lead time as HiSpec manufacture them to order ;)

[quote=VEEDUBBED;1173890 I reckon the max. you can go on 15" is by using modded Vauxhall meriva cdti 4 stud 280mm disks and Girling 60 calipers, 4 pot Brembo calipers would also be ideal. i run HiSpec Billet 4's under my VR's 15" speedlines, cracking 4 pots ;)

hi anna i dont think that it is 'everyone saying bad things about expensive' - in general i have found Heritage to be very good value i have also found the service from not only yourself but your colleagues i have spoken with on the phone to be excellent - always very helpful & knowledgeable & to be a little blunt Heritage are massively more helpful than the local VW dealers personally, i think the 'expensive' part normally corresponds to parts you have had reproduced & also to those parts which are hard or impossible to find. obviously we all know & appreciate Heritage need to cover setup & initial order type costs but sometimes the eventual 'price' of an item can be a shock to begin with - however, when compared to the older VW part prices they are often better or very competitive again personally, i would like to thank yourself, luke, martin & george! the 2 parts Heritage sent me last week have enabled me to repair both of my rado's this weekend :D

hi m8 no, in fact i gt the opposite historically my VR has never had the best feeling brake pedal - it always felt like you had to pump it to get a good feeling under foot the ABS has never been quite right & i had quite a few lock ups from the OE brake setup. i had previously tried EBC USR discs & green stuff pads & though they seemed to stop any locks in heavy braking i wouldnt say they stopped me any better than OE discs/pads. i did get a much better disc/pad life than OE now with the HiSpec's it feels like you have access to a much greater stopping power virtually as soon as you hit the pedal - just a small travel & they let you know they can & will stop you hard & fast. press that pedal hard & you need to hold the steering wheel tight else you will head butt the screen lol

Stealth Racing did a great job of live mapping my VR6 :D

very much another boo - yay few days, hopefully good results in the end on the way to work in the VR on thurs, almost there, pull away from an island & "WTF is that coming out the front left of the bonnet & spraying on my windscreen" moments ensued :( fortunately there was a lay by only 100 yards or so away so quickly managed to get it there & shut her off popped bonnet to find this... the elbow on top of the rad had fractured & popped the hose off. found the other end of the elbow in the hose tried a cowboy fix but it wouldnt hold & i wasnt sure how much coolant had been lost had to get rescued but due to a mistake by RAC it took about 4 hours in all fortunately a call to Heritage & a new elbow was on its way received the new oil pressure switch for the valver on friday, swapped it over & hey presto no more oil alarm buzzer when hit 2.5k revs thus definitely the generic switch was not correct for the vehicle, despite all part numbers corresponding to correct VW parts etc Heritage switch had a clear stamp of 1.8-2.0bar on it - the motor factors one had nothing took it for a run & all seemed ok - cross fingers that is fixed & ok now - glad it doesnt seem to be the oil pump lol elbow arrived for the VR late saturday - got it fitted, filled up coolant - it had lost about 2/3's id say ran her up to stat opening & topped up etc drove her back on sunday & all seemed ok - again fingers crossed it was just a plastic part failure but i may get it to my mechanic for a pressure test on the system had a lovely toasty warm drive to work today in the valver :D air box re-lining has worked great & the new gaskets etc along the way are giving a good result when directional flow moved around

further digging, as it was too dark to remove the one fitted the switch from the motor factors is listed as 1.53-1.93 bar Heritage were superb & went to the lengths of physically picked the switch from their stock & checked what was stamped on it, as their system just showed it should be 1.8 bar, & their switch is rated as 1.8-2.0 bar thus ordered the Heritage one as i believe the motor factors switch is causing the alarm due to the lower pressure being too low - well, that is the theory so fingers crossed

pleasure anna, i always try to help let me have a think on the prepared to pay part & check my old math interesting that you already use freight forwarding services, i wonder if the wings worked out unfavourable to heritage to stock would you be prepared to assist with ad-hoc wings upon request IIRC spoonfed make the wings to order so maybe some kind of mechanism could be figured out to help UK people get them